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I might well of missed it but i don't recall a single poster saying "Tyson should play because you don't drop a player after one game". By creative outlook do you mean making stuff up? Strange quote, but as i say perhaps i missed it.

Agree. And whats more it is clear she does her own research and prepares super well for her special comments role. Unlike almost all others. It amazes actually how clueless footy commentators seem to be eg about teams, players, stats etc etc

To mangle an old saying, posters on demonland are in rhe opinion business. Keep it up. Anway on rhe over opinionated scale you not in the top 50 around these parts.

Disagree. He will be an out and out star.

Jeez, imagine how much you would know about him if you did focus on him.

Ahead of Smith?

Not a problem Dick. Welcome btw. As you are new you get a pass on the posting statements that sound like fact with no source. The posters with more that 200 posts who do so regularly do not. If however you start posting stuff like 'this is the worst loss in the history of the club', 'hogan has played two bad games in a ow and should be dropped', etc etc i reserve the right to call you Reac

For the love of god please see DL rule number 1: Name bloody sources when saying a player is: not going to be slected going to be selected going to be traded out going to be traded in has been on eccy all weekend

Agree there was a lack of communication, which you could see from his reaction and he may well have had no options (impossible to tell on TV). Disagree it could have been anyone. Sure players like a Harmes might have got pinged but Oliver and Brayshaw, among others (eg Lewis, Spargo Salem) release that ball. Even in the unlikely even they did not realise they were hot (which surely is a given) at the slightest contact they are ready to do a quick handball. That bit of play points to two issues Tyson has. Firstly no doubt he suffers a bit from a lack of peripheral awareness. The second thing is technical issue i have pointed out before. He often seems to hold the ball out in front of him which exacerbates the impact of the tackle and often means he can't get even a half handball off (which seems to be enough to avoid a free kick). it was poor bit of play but players give free kicks away all the time so no hanging offence.

Is that true?

Agree. Which is why we will smash saints. It is also why losing lever was so bad for us. He was just hitting his straps and rhe back half their systems andvset ups to allow him to plst the last man sweeper role. Huge out.

He's right about the aggressive press being a big factor. One our the back we are in trouble. One because without hunt doubling back (or mids having the pace to get back) we lack pace but also it means that the kick inside 50 is often under no pressure - which is the real killer. Its a double edge sword though. The aggresice press is rge key factot in our high scoring.

I agree. That said, and this is not meant to be knock on hogan, but what i think we lack atm is a player who by force of will drag us over the line. All great teams have one, sometimes two, such players. Im thinking of current players like selwood, Dangerfield, dusty, kennedy, sloane and buddy. Playets that impose themseves on the game and do the extraordinary when most needed. Thw closest we have is viney, but whilst he will aways give 120 per cent he probably lacks the class. I would love hogan to be that player. Oliver has the potential to be that player and you'd hope trac also (but it has to be said he would need to go up a level).

There are facts and there are opinions. And sometimes they intersect. It is my opinion we need some more players with foot speed and better rhan average foot skills. It is also a fact we need more speed and excellent kicking skills (and a player who makes good decisions wouldnt go astray). One only needs to analyse our losses for the proof. Take the port game. If we had even two players who could hit a short target, kick rhe ball to a forward's advantage, weight the ball properly and kick the goals that shouldnot be missed (hello anb and trac) we wim that game and remain in the top 4. Of course gaff is no silver bullets. But he may well have got us over the line in the port and cats game given how badly we neefed someone who doesn't butcher the ball going inside 50.

Agree. Good endurance. Neat foot skills. And crucially some pace.

I don't think Tyson was terrible. But not great. So i can understand calls to drop him But as rule i don't see the logic is player being picked because of good form in the twos only getting the one game before being dropped. Sure if they have played super bad or broken key team rules but if they are ok it sends a strange message i reckon. Its happened twice this year with pedo and stretch. pedo was replaced by smith who was dropped for form and casey had a bye so Pedo was dead unlucky. He was not the worst against the pies. Stretch was average against the hawks but still one week and back to the twos would not have done much for his confidence

Speaking of Punter's lament i backed Doggies to win. Ouch

Frustrating. And a big dose of punters lament. I was going back and forth between Shillelagh and Savanna Amour. Almost went with Shillelagh as it rated higher 3 points higher than Savanna Amour but its form has been average and has a poor strike rate so went the other way, If i win Tatts i'm going to buy a horse and call it Punter's lament.

If he plays well and we get through it might be the kruze cup

WFA for fillies and mares race so i I am going to trust the ratings. Daysee Doom, with 111 rates on top, has pretty good first up record (5: 2 - 2), likes it good (14: 6 - 3) and the distance (6: 4 - 2). Seems pretty good vale. My other selection is Savanna Amour. At 106 has a good enough rating, good win last start in unsuitable ground. Likes the track ( 3: 2 - 0) and the good going (12: 6 - 3). In this class is 4: 2 - 1 so has the runs on the board. Barrier one might be a concern if she gets boxed in but if she gets a nice smother might be able to trail leader and be there at the pointy end. Good luck punters

You clearly are not watching the same game as me. Rag dolled. Sheesh

Something that people seem to struggle to get their head around. When i say people i mean the average footy fan and even many of the so called footy experts in the media. Last night's game was a good example. Wet cokes' mid filed pressure was terrible, partic in the first quarter and the bombers were able to kick the ball to their forwards advantage time and time again. It made that peanut Stringer look like Dunstall and the WC backs like hacks

I call Oscar Dr Cool now.

Rubbish. This year has proved that he can handle the 'gorrillas' and win the one on one battles. He is only playing his 50th game and he is the key big man trusted to take the oppositions biggest forward in a team that will play finals. The 90s would have suited him perfectly. It is commonly accepted players do not hit their peak until they have played aprox 80-90 games. So Oscar will be hitting his peak at the end of next year, start of 2020. By then he won't be muscled of the ball and will have 40 odd games of craft and experience playing against the best forwards in the AFL (he really started being the key defender mid of last year).

Its obviously not a straight swap but i agree that it is strange spargo was not replaced with a small. Garlett must be well out of favour. Goodwin did say he was going for a big bodied side because of the dew. Which i dont really understand. I also agree that tyson - and smith for that matter - does nothing to address our real issue with pace. Surely Tyson plays as an iside mid.