old dee

The week before he was almost as bad SD, he has a lot more poor games than good ones so far this year.

Another skinny kid who will take three years to be big enough. Might be JC who knows, JD is killing them now!

We were never going to pick him DC Did not fit the Choir boy image

But thats the problem most of the older guys are giving us very little. WE need good games from the senior players while the young ones develop. Why will that change when they are one year older? We simply are not getting it from them, I cannot see them getting better

He is certainly not getting paid like a fringe player!

Go to the top of the class WYL

Dee-luded what you say may be true however i would disagree with your time line. We are a lot longer off being a finalist than 2012. When we had the guys playing who are coming back we were crap, so I am not sure they will make a lot of difference in the next few weeks. There is only one A grader among our senior ranks and it will IMO take longer than next year to produce a suitable number of A grade players. Until then we have lots of pain to endure, it does not stop at the end of 2011.

You have missed one element I won't have to watch him friday night if he plays with Casey!

Thats recorded in my diary Choko!

My smile is back Thanks again DC

You are right. I am getting worried this is the third time I have agreed with you in 24 hours.

That won't happen we would have to change the game plan There has been no one in the forward 50 for 2 years you are asking for a revolution. There is a better chance of me getting a game on friday night.

There is only one move for Davey this week it is off to Casey, As you say Carlton will tag him out of the game, like they have every time we have played them in recent years. I doubt Gawn will get a run he is still very young, to play him now might set him back. We are in no danger of winning so why feed the kid to the wolves. I will be surprised if there is more than one change this week. Perhaps Howe in for Tapscott.

I think you have it covered fairly well RR. When you don't have the required player talent Everything else looks poor, lack of endevour, more mistakes, bad decision making, poor kicking that results in turnovers etc. all stem from having players with talent levels lower than their opponents. You cannot replace 7 -8 players ( especially in the GWS era ) but you can replace a coach. Unless he has talents that we in the outer don't see I think he is for the high jump. Unless a mircale happens there will need to be a sacrificial lamb by year end. That will be DB wether he deserves it or not.

Now we are both dreaming. I am off for a single malt and some sleep The sun will no doubt come up tomorrow and i will be reminded it is only a game. Carn the Dees

That is exactly what I am saying with a couple of exceptions our senior list is crap.

I keep waiting for the J curve rpfc Any chance in 2012?

You had me until you bought in Bennell, why? The guy has not even played a game since his wonderful performance against north. Please anyone but him.

how many times have I heard that over the last 40+ years. I agree we have what looks like a good group of kids but who is going to help them develop over the next 2 -3 years surely not the likes of Davey. You need a blend of senior and young players At present we have a couple of good seniors, 3 - 4 mid range players and a bunch of kids most of whom have less than 20 games to their credit. I have seriously over estimated the quality of our senior players most of them are average. We do not have one game breaker amonst them. We are going to struggle for at least the next couple of years. PS I have supportered this club for 51 years, i think I have a reasonable ticker.

a good argument

versus the Dees who do not have senior players of that quality at all. Where does that leave us over the next 2 - 4 years. Our current path suggest that we are going to be bottom 4-5 for the next couple of years Why would guys like Scully, Gysberts, Tapscott etc want to stay. Who could blame them, take the Money at GWS and or go home to SA. Then we have no senior players of any worth and lost quality juniors. At this point the eagles model looks a lot better to me.

I have been asking that for at least a year but it seems that is not how our game plan works. You have probably notice how well the plan works, when we get a turn over there is no one to kick it to but what we we know Robbief

Why do we have to have him in the side, it is extremely unlikely we will get close to the blues with or without Judd / Warnock. So make a statement play Davey at Casey, Seriously could his replacement be much worse. He has been poor all season why will things change on friday night.

yes like the scoreboard