old dee

IMO a very good article in the Hun this morning by Jon Ralph - Melbourne's playing list just heavenly. It says a lot of the things I have been thinking for some weeks. Look forward to your thoughts.

A lot of skinny boys stay skinny.

I hope he has 21 mates otherwise it will be another slaughter.

I said "mainly" With the exception of frawley and trengrove I saw a lot of bruise free football On saturday. As well as numerous games during the year, Hawthorn, Collingwood, west coast, Carlton. The list goes on. We play bruise free football quite often. Either that or we have a team that has a serious shortage of talent.

One guy does not make a team

Yes I did RR, suggested it should be past onto the players as they probably need it to keep warm more than me.

I think you will get it WYL the trouble is they will be all Carlton. They will be looking forward to a big percentage increase. God it could be awful. We will need to be strong mentally I feel a long trip home coming.

Me too mate and it is a very very tough road. i have a horrible feeling after saturday we do not have the cattle to get there anytime soon. That may be why DB is un employed today.

yes but there are 50 000 battlers in the stands.

I will be doing all of what you suggest however I will not be picking up my scarf. a protest is a protest and I do not want to take back my protest. I hope there is a reason to sing. Believe me i will die a demon with or without the ultimate prize.

Who the hell would know DC! Sometimes it is the truth that hurts.Perhaps CS is irritating people with the truth.

I am interetsed to know, how do you know that he dislikes these guys?

Sorry bush demon but I am no longer going to follow along blindly. I have done that for 51 years for little result. Demand more and if you do not get it [censored] PS 1988 is 23 years ago, a long time between drinks.

Yes I did I am tired of accepting poor performances. we have got to show some disapproval. We are all too accepting. I want some Carlton and Essendon mean attitude and I truely believe toughness starts from the bottom up. Now it is not aimed at Jim and I said so in my note. If the lot that ran out on saturday had a tenth of his spirt we would have won by 186 points. too many nice guys as Dees supporters

yes we do. No one knows it better than me it is 2011, half a century since 1960. stand up and fight and accept that we need to be more than a "150 year old Club"

it seems a large number let a lot of things slide. I know I am from another era but in the second half why did we not just play one on one football. yes I know it is not played that way these days.

I think we have missed the trio of Miller, Mcdonald and Bruce more than most think. For the exact reasons you list.

You have my vote on both counts "hangon" I know no one who is under 35 who is a supporter, now I know there are people much young than that. I was not able to persuade my daughter to become a Dee 20 years ago in spite of my best efforts. At the age of 32 she follows the bombers because she says they are winners and appeal to her. Also she feels the territorial thing with Essendon, we live in the North. The Dees are a conservative bunch of people living in the past. Her view not mine.

Thank you Simple but it covers it. Melbourne?

Yes and it might be the only way of retaining him after 2012.

I thought Green was a good choice but it has turned out to be a bad move. I do not think he should be retained as captain. However that is an action for the off season. I cannot see any gain from dropping him now. For better or worse he is the captain for the next 5 weeks. What really intrigues me is how you can go from all Australian to hopeless in six months.

At the risk of offending you. you have not answered the question. Saying we are 150 years old does not answer the question. I am just as committed as you but that does not mean i have to agree with everything the clubs does. What does the club stand for?

EGD you are shooting the messenger, I heard Smith most of what he said is correct IMO. Look at our performances this year, every time we play a team that is half reasonable we get belted. We show no spirit or determination we are down hill skiers. I do agree leave Jim out of all this.

I am not suggesting we walk away but we need to make our feelings known. Fire up guys is what I am saying, members of Essendon and Carlton demand success and guess what they get it. We are way to nice, it is reflected in the players. The club starts from us up in IMO.

guys I reckon he is right we are playing bruise free football. I have been complaining for some time that we recruit mainly skinny nice boys. No Darlings for us, what a ruffian! not at the MFC. Well guess what nice guys don't win premierships. It is time for a few hard arse pricks in this team. We have a habit of shooting the messenger on Demonland. I think Eddy is correct and we should take note of his comments, Carlton said the same thing a few weeks back. Are we the only ones in the band in step.