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Well it's about time you did, young man!

Kick off is 7:40pm...I don't know why any AFL follower with a mobile doesn't have the AFL Live app. It's free and has all of the info you need.

Ok, fair enough... but my question to that poster ("care to elaborate") was directed at his comment "Attitude is nowhere near what is required, which I understandable given his background" - it was the "background" part that I was asking him to elaborate on.

I don't see how that relates to "his background". I know Waylon said he liked the idea of impressing the girls and I know he was often ready to drop out (but to his credit he pushed through that), but I don't recall anything about partying... in fact, didn't he put his position on the line for not dragging Chris(?) back after Chris had been out most of the night drinking (used his Captain's privilege to swap pull Chris out of the bottom three and put himself in for failing in his duties). Seemed fairly ethical.. but that sure backfired on him this week when Chris used his captain's privilege to get Waylon out of the bottom three, only to have Waylon refuse... Waylon was then sent packing.

Well, he had the X Factor

Care to elaborate?

Not meant as a mean comment, but gee that sounds just like it could have come from the pen of Red Sovine.

Merge with Port Adelaide and become Port Melbourne... the added benefit for certain posters on here would be that we finally get Ollie Wines.

I was thinking Waylon... replace a project player with a project player... but at least Waylon has skills to burn.

I thought that the offer was that the "off season" would count as part of their sentence, meaning that they would miss maybe only one month of next season (most were given 6 months). This may work with NRL as players can go and play overseas during the Australian summer and the ban would stop them from being able to do that, but it could never work with AFL as there is no alternative competitions around the planet that their players can go and play with professionally. To allow them to serve part of their sentence in the off season would be no penalty at all. Another big difference is that the Cronulla thing only involved 15(?) players over a period of a couple or so weeks... the Essendon thing involves 34 players and was run systematically over a period of roughly 12 months. Chalk, meet cheese!

Ok, I didn't see that... apologies. However, I would be more worried if they did like the boos. I'm afraid there is no easy way to fix it... they are tired after a long season of playing above themselves (and that is what they have essentially been doing based on past years form) and until this game, they had acquited themselves reasonably well. I really don't think 4 wins tells the full story when you look at how hard they have worked to reduce the number of thrashings they were getting. Things will improve, but I fear there will need to be a few more interations when it comes to drafting/trading before we can expect to be a top 4 side. Having said that, if they can make a similar step up next year as they did this year compared to last year, then I don't think a place just outside the top 8 is unachievable.

Obviously they are the players you are talking about. Well, you fail to mention that they both stated that they deserved to be booed. They were obviously very disappointed and ashamed. I think it is a little unfair to single them out just because they were interviewed and made comment.

WADA perhaps?

Murphy is an intelligent and erudite individual who also happens to be an excellent footballer with a great knowledge of the game and an even greater ability to impart that knowledge through his appearances in the media and his writings in the Age; he has a gift that is very rare in football/sporting circles. Why must he need to have been an All Australian?

I wonder if the ASADA case coming to a head at Cronulla is any indication of what might be to come for Essendon? http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/asada-pain-could-end-soon-for-cronulla-sharks-20140817-10546c.html This may already have been clarified here somewhere amongst the 285 pages of this thread, but it appears that suspensions apply from the date of issue rather than over the actual season (which to me seems pointless - it may work for sports like cycling and athletics that are run year round, but not for a seasonal sport such as NRL or AFL): "With the bans expected to be offered to 17 past and present Sharks players believed to be between one month and six months in length, all will be back playing after the first month of next season - if not earlier."

Plenty of topics for dicussing this on the "It's the midfield, stupid" Drafting and Trading Board"

WTF should apply to those on here that are outraged by an article that is likely to be read by next to nobody. All the OP did was manage to get the guy a few extra hits on his article.

What, he taught at a seminary school?

The only Shakesperian line I could remember was "bull's pizzle". No idea why that one stuck. But it certainly applies to the way Essendon are flogging their dead horse.

For those Watts "bashers", this will probably be disappointing news. From the MFC twitter account, Roos presser... "Roos: (Watts is) improving over the course of the season, he's been doing the roles we've been asking him to doing all year"

Nah... I go to my old stomping grounds in Melbourne when I want a dose of culture

Are you suggesting that Tasmanians have culture?

I finally got around to watching Ben Stiller's Secret Life of Walter Mitty the other day and really enjoyed it... well written and well acted. And besides, just about anything with Shirley MacLaine and Sean Penn in it, cannot be bad! One good thing about having young kids means I have an excuse to go and indulge in the occassional guilty pleasure... went and saw Godzilla (latest remake) recently and absolutely loved it and will go and see Guardians of the Galaxy in the next week or two. Have to say though, that I am a sucker for Godzilla... having DVDs of every Godzilla and associated kaiju such as Baragon, Mecha Godzilla, King Ghidorah (and Mecha Ghidorah), Mothra and so on... I have roughly 45 of the TOHO films on DVD. The only dud was that appalling American effort in the 90's (or whenever it was).

I really will never understand guys like Garlett and Robinson. As players they have talent to burn, but then they go and throw it all away. They remind me of anyone who takes up smoking these days, armed with the knowledge of the harm it will most likely do to them further down the track. It's just a bizarre mentality (maybe as bizarre as mine for offering up that analogy).

How many millions of times have I told you not to exagerate!!