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You worry too much... worried about Max leaving if we win a premiership, worried about Hogan being distracted if paid millions... rest assured that if we win a premiership, Max will want to stick around to have a hand in our quadrepeat as will all of our other stars... not to mention we will become the destination of choice for everyone else.

It is "rumoured" (on AFL.com) that Stefan wants to return to Victoria... should we be looking at him as a good second ruck option and if we were to do so, would he be interested in returning to the club under Roos? (edited to add link) http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-14/sliding-doors-round-20 Discuss...

Waiting for them to grant you admission? ;-)

I'm surprised you even had to ask the question Mono...he's a Dees supporter.

I'm pretty hopeful it will become the norm as he appears to have shaken the one thing that was holding him back... a fear of the physical contest (he has always had the skills, intelligence and pace)

I see a bad moon rising (aka new evidence) ... WADA finds 'abnormally high' TB4 levels in Essendon players

Scanners ManDee?

Well, there's definitely a lot about him that is fishy... and he is loathed by many.

hard to consider a people who were nomadic as nations.

Well, if we were hopeful that the booing would come to an end, I think this may have cruelled it... PM calls for an end to Goodes booing

And there were over 400 aboriginal groupings or mobs (nations is not an appropriate term) before the arrival of the "white man".

yep... agree on all counts. I love the fact that my boys have Japanese blood running through their veins, have best friends who are from all over the place (Lebanon, Turkey, Vietnam, China, etc etc)... because those connections between the kids create connections between their parents. The problems only seem to happen when politicians get involved.

Perfect summation.

The booing of Goodes HAD NOT stopped over the past weeks at all. It had not even subsided... if anything it had become worse as the media storm seemed to inflame rather than pacify the offenders.

You mean incite a crowd that had already been booing him non-stop from the opening bounce??

Very very different... the Goodes thing is NOT about political correctness.

Did he cop abuse on the same scale every time he walks onto a field? Would love to see how you would cope if you were in Goodes' position... I get the feeling you may have thrown the towel in a long time ago (I know I would have).

The only indignation will be the fact that you don't seem to be able to glean the idea that while the vast majority of those booing may not be racists, they are providing shelter and validation for those involved who are racist. And as I mentioned in one of the closed threads... please name me one single player in the history of the game who has received treatment of this nature on such a scale. There is much much more to this than simply a dislike of the man; it is a mixture of a few racists, a few with a passionate dislike of the man and a vast majority of sheep who think it's great fun to join in with the mob, without a single care about the effect it is having on Goodes (and please don't give me the line about the girl that he pointed out... he wasn't to know her age at the time, and it was the media that exposed her to a ridiculous degree).. This is bullying on a scale never seen before in any sport.

Sorry DL, but I don't buy that at all... what exactly are our "own culture and values"? We Anglos were the first boat people to arrive on this continent (from half a world away, by the way)... the true culture and values of this land are not ours; they were here roughly 50,000 years before us. Now we are a mix of all cultures and all religions. The Chinese have been here almost as long as the Anglos, the Italians, Greek, Croats, Serbs, Lebanese have been here for decades upon decades. It's a bit rich to talk about refugees from half a world away when the bulk of our population came from half a world away. I assume your "at a time when cultures are clashing so badly" comment is a reference to ISIS and Talliban etc... if so, you seem to overlook the fact that the bulk of refugees are fleeing those kinds of tyrannical societies. Culture clashes and old rivalries are nothing new here at all... Croats and Serbs, North and South Vietnamese... they all resolve themselves in time. Let's face it, if it wasn't for the diverse range of immigrants from all corners of the planet that we have had for so long, our culture would not be what it is today.

The Tamils understandably want to get as far away from Sri Lanka as possible as they believe their lives are in danger... India is no doubt too close for comfort and I imagine the fact there are in excess of 67,000 refugees already in India's Tamil Nadu in less than desirable conditions may also have something to do with it. As for the rest, Australia receives a minute percentage of the world's refugees (Australia took one refugee per 1, 000 population and ranked 69th in the world for per capita refugee intake.). To put it into perspective, I recall a few years ago when the boats were coming thick and fast, if they had kept coming at the same rate, by 2020 there would have been enough arrivals to fill the MCG. Hardly overrunning the country. Australian intake figure from here: http://www.factsfightback.org.au/does-australia-take-the-most-refugees-check-the-facts/

And Judd's grandmother

Turning back the boats solves nothing. Wrecker likes to think we are saving lives by turning them back, when in truth by doing that we are exposing them to possibly more danger as they will probably have at least the same journey as they would if they came to our shores and so they will be exposed to the same dangers for the same period of time (if not longer). The only difference is that we will not be there to save their lives if something does go wrong and in all likelihood, more lives would be lost than if something went wrong in our waters. The other difference is, and this is where I think the Abbott govt sees this as beneficial to them, I doubt very much we would ever hear of those lives lost outside our waters and so Abbott and Wrecker and their mates can all sleep easy in their ignorance. They don't care about saving lives, they just care about lives being lost in their own backyard.

Well, I had better not write it in that case :-)

No... should I? ;-)