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....i'm not sure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it might be only a breath, of fresh air.

Yes that's right, their tanks have been rumbling along for a couple of years now, even to the point of deliberately undermining Pagan & sacking his leiutenant to aid poor onfield results whilst getting games into the kids @ the bullants & blues. Oh gee', sorry u seem so disturbed.

Is that right bobby, what if THEY picked Cotchin 1 & then Ebert or Palmer or some' 3 & trade P19 for a Warnock or someone?

I think I can smell a dual coaching team comin' on.

Yeah, it's his body. Great body, can anyone else see that or is it just me???

'sylvinator', It seems to me that your the one not getting it. Your right in what you say about us losing the priority pick but where you seem to be off the mark is you don't seem to realise how good carltons list really is & how much stronger they will become with this years draft. They're a powerfull list allready that are underdeveloped in game terms, they're going to be awesome & leave us in their dust come '09.

why do people keep saying that Bartram will be a back pocket, more likely to be a bode or some such. I think Bartram is definately a midfield type & a run with player, heir apparent to Mcdonald or godfrey, green or such.

Sure Sure Sure Sure maybe the footygossgods are paying you back.

thanks bruce ,,,

A quote from a blue forum, "I heard from a friend of mine who knows a Carlton board member very well (I will not name the board member) that we offered Judd $800,000 per year plus $500,000 in investments through companies controlled by the Carlton board. Very interesting, but he still said no. A shame." <_<

from blues fans forum - Not sure what the "exact" draft order will be but here's 15 names that will be right in the mix come early draft picks: 1. M.Kreuzer (Vic) 2. T.Cotchin (Vic) 3. R.Palmer (WA) 4. C.Morton (WA) 5. B.McEvoy (Vic) 6. B.Ebert (SA) 7. D.Myers (WA) 8. T.Collier (Tas) 9. C.Masten (WA) 10. A.Rance (WA) 11. J.Grimes (Vic) 12. T.Bellchambers (Tas) 12. C.Rioli (NT) 13. P.Veszpremi (Vic) 14. A.Maric (Vic) 15. L.Henderson (Vic) blue fan comment :- (Hope we can snare 3 picks in there somewhere! )

Eureka, I think I found It, - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster Purpose This "land-kreuzer" was planned as a self-propelled platform for the 80-cm K (E) guns also made by Krupp - the largest artillery weapons ever built. Their 7 tonne projectiles could be fired up to 37 km (23 miles) and were designed for use against heavily fortified targets.

Jamar is injured. Has been all year. carried it through season.

Round 22 WILL THIS DO from my AFL Ladder Predictor TD* coll Adel 6 pts MCG Rich st-k 18 pts Sub WC ess 6 pts Gabba* bris Geel 6 pts AAMI* Port frem 6 pts SCG syd Haw 6 pts TD WB kang 6 pts MCG dees Carl 6 pts Predicted Ladder # Team Pl W L D PF PA Pt Perc 1 Geelong 22 18 4 0 2500 1658 72 150.7 2 Port Adel 22 15 7 0 2300 2050 60 112.1 3 West Coast 22 15 7 0 2133 1908 60 111.7 4 Hawthorn 22 14 8 0 2131 1811 56 117.6 5 Kangaroos 22 13 9 0 2123 2008 52 105.7 6 Collingwood 22 13 9 0 2033 2001 52 101.5 8 Adelaide 22 12 10 0 1890 1734 48 108.9 7 Sydney 22 11 10 1 1987 1732 46 114.7 9 St Kilda 22 10 11 1 1863 1958 42 95.1 13 W Bulldogs 22 10 11 1 2121 2409 42 88.0 10 Bris Lions 22 9 11 2 1980 1843 40 107.4 11 Fremantle 22 10 12 0 2266 2184 40 103.7 12 Essendon 22 10 12 0 2157 2365 40 91.2 15 Carlton 22 5 17 0 2162 2869 20 75.3 16 Richmond 22 4 17 1 1975 2526 18 78.1 14 Melbourne 22 4 18 0 1848 2413 16 76.5 = Kreuzer +

i just saw it, what a laugh, beaty. What are saw players? ans:- like colliwobblers missing their teeth.

Don't play any injured or saw players. Injured players cost us games.

Scoop, it's not just us missing a potential gun kid by us winning - but if carlton get the priority, well it's like a 2 game turnaround. They'll get 1st & 3rd crack at all the goodies in both nat' & pre drafts & we'll be trying to compete with these bastardos in 2 - 3 seasons time when Neitz, White, Robbo, Mcdonald, the bruiser Bruce, Green, are all finished. We'll be rebuilding again. Trade now!!!!!!!!!

It's no good when 2 outa 3 hitouts go to the opp'.

...believe it, it's allready fact. He's coaching right now, but next year I think not.

How about a draw, I don't care about finishing below caarrlton, it's just a bonus for the pick if that happens. I think we almost owe it to the TIGERS & the integrity of the draft & the competion to make sure that either caarrlton does not get the priority pick, or niether of us gets a priority pick. There's all sorts of things that could happen like a week defence continually fumbling & rushing points thru the opp' goals, poor field kicking causing turnovers, lack of defensive pressure, etc, etc. caarrlton may even turn up to play, but that wouldn't bring any glee' to a kerna expression.

*** Want SHEEDS for 2 / 3 years with bailey or hardwick as his 2nd in charge whom would ultimately take over from him. *** Want Connolly back @ the DEES on the football dept or board! *** Would love to see Riley stay in the football dept, i like his strait forward manner.

KERNA'S idiological hero.

It's said that CAAARRLTON will be sporting new vehicles for all players from this week end.

I'm rapt actually.

Thats just it though, his legacy will be seen in the next 5 years, (on the ladder I think you mean). The type of recruiting youngsters with leadership abilities has come about in his time @ the dees. The mistakes in recruiting & player development were made as I can see in hindsight before his time as football manager.