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Imagine if this was our team in terms of depth and quality for 10-12 VFL rounds.....we would finish top 2 surely. Happy to see Trengove and Petracca kicking it to the Weid.

I'm surprised at some of the views that Goodwin is the man now. We have improved from the day Roos walked in the door, every single thing about the team is better. What has been frustrating is we haven't experienced a linear improvement, rather two steps forward, one step back over 24 months. This past month has been two steps forward by itself, for everyone's belief....players, coaches, staff, media, fans and opponents. what I am surprised about is how we have become, seemingly over preseason a ferocious, tough, no excuses footy team. There simply aren't any soft blokes playing anymore, and more importantly we have a large group of youth, led by Viney who rate the rough stuff, and I'm certain compete in this at training, games and over a game of ping pong. I can't imagine a Ben Kenneddy or Clayton Oliver being able to hold game time if Viney, Jones and co thought they shirked the odd contest.no these blokes go full bore, and we are starting to add skills to this. Best of all, a foundation build on hardness at the ball is sustainable long term, whether your game plan is likes the Swans, Cats or Hawks. The Dee's are coming people, look out.....

GWS looked very very impressive, just liked you'd expect of a team choc full of talent now 4-5 years into the afl routine. Their young gun draft picks from last year will struggle for game time, that gives you insight to how far they have come. The midfield is scary good, Ward sublime and tough, but Shiel looks deadly. I believe they will play finals this year, and go past quite a few teams, including the Bulldogs, Pies and Kangas. Round 1 might just be an 8 point game early in the season. Should be a ripper. Some signs of a slowdown from Sydney, can't see them dropping too far, but not expecting top 4. Either way we beat Essendon round 2.

Keen to go again Deevoted. Fetters Flyers. Thanks for sorting it.

Not all that fussed. Seems a tougher draw than last year,but didn't the Hawks play the top 7 early rounds recently and win 6? We simply need to win,anywhere, anytime. Bring it on.

So the Footy Dept might be prepared to bet one of our 44 list spots on a guys with 5yrs development, about to enter his prime in footy, clearly a talented junior and has played some good footy in seniors. He fits our age profile. Expect a lot of bombers to play improved footy once they get out and the saga ends. Would have been an appalling place to develop as a youngster, much like Melbourne in 2010-2013. I'm know more or less excited by him than I was Harmes, Hunt, Bail, M Jones, Pederson or Lumumba when they came onto our list. A few have added real value, a few stink, but if we get him for pick 40 that's fine.

Is he any better or worse than Elliot Yeo was this time last year. I wasn't at all keen on Yeo, but geez I'd love to have him now.

Well done Tom Boyd, kicks the last goal to give footscray a 3pt win over port Melbourne, effectively ending ports finals campaign and locking in the scorps!

If you haven't worth reading the Red Fox all about norm smith. Great book about our history. Hardto fathom now but we were feared for decades back then.

Gawns two hit outs to Viney have been stunning

In junior footy Tommy Mac played Ruck/Fwd pocket. Cn he do it for a few weeks at AFL level, so a Fitzy can play back?

I thought Roos nailed it. We kicked 7.18.....not 11.14.....or 15.10......and so we lost. We kept the Bombers under 70, tick. We kicked 7.18, fail. Their FF kicked 5.0, ours sulked about and was soundly beaten. Then our FB went forward, dominated, and kicked 1.2 plus out of bounds, so we lost. On the day overall out midfield won the contest. But ours conversion was pathetic. Make whatever changes we want next week, if we kick like that again we will lose, if we kick 18.5, we will win. Simple game footy.

Think about this one from the Bombers side, rather than dealing with our own fear of succeeding. We are all so scared of success having never seen it in the last decade. The Bombers are following up a record loss to an equally lowly team, and have lost their Captain and best player, and decided too blood 3-4 young kids who have been in questionable form in the VFL. Sound familiar? We have lived through this for years. Did any of us seriously think after someone smashed us we'd be cherry ripe the next week cause a Grimes was injured and replaced in the side by a very young Bail, Taggert and Gillies? That's what they are dishing up. Dees by 32. Brissy game much tougher because they have a midfield. Beams, Rockliff, Hanley and Redden are to be respected.

Love this side, genuinely excited for the game. Very happy to see Stretch named at HBF again, having played there the last two weeks. We have been weak this this area, if he can defend the smalls it will be a big win, as he can kick it. Maybe a Brodie Smith style impact. Will done Harmesy, you have helped keep some others kids dream alive of playing for the team they follow.

Wow, this is unexpected, and bloody good. Some really competent footy in that half Dees, great stuff. Viney on Selwood is perfect, he doesn't care about 186 or how good they've been, or how shite we've been, he just smashes in at the next contest. Brayshaw the same. And Bernie Vince is a very very good player.

We will certainly need fitzy next week against the Blitz show at Geelong, lucky Stanley is out, hopefully Mitch not back. I like the team this week but it is also very young and inexperienced. Brayshaw, Stretch, Toumpas, ANB, Michie all very young in their careers.

Was just 13 at the time, and can still remember listening to the end of the bulldogs game on 3LO, then we smashed, absolutely smashed North and then the swans two weeks running. It was unbelievable momentum. Anyone ever wonder about how much confidence plays a role have a look at those games. To go to my first ever finals game, and win 158-40 was stunning. To watch Eishold miss, flower not kicked to in the goal square and stynes run across the mark was about the saddest memory I have. Carlton would have smashed us the week after......but still.

A nice little aside, Toumpas absolutely played his role today, and good on him. Jack Macrae didn't even get picked and The Bont was completely outclassed by our Bernie!

We would have win tonight with just two other players. Pick them, Fyfe and Mundy or Hodge and Lewis. Everything, every single little thing revolves around the main four in the middle.....and ours doesn't include any of the above four, or Kennedy and Hanneberry for that matter. We desperately need Brayshaw and Petracca to be those two. It ends there. The rest flows, we have talent everywhere except our best two mids. Our aren't good enough, it's very simple. Hodge and Lewis make mcEvoy or Ceglar look good, spencer would look good playing for the hawks.

Once again the true value of a pair of gun mids impact on the game and their teammates is being shown in Sydney. Hodge and Lewis out and all of a sudden the fringe hawks look much weaker. Love to see the giants hang on.

Is he a bit like Bell at Carlscum? Big bodied mid who came in late and now looks the part.

Odds are outrageous. Dees a very big chance. Some serious quality out of that Tigers team, and we handle them pretty well usually. Happy Deledio out. We will win, I'm going and quite confident.

Hampson bog in vfl. We may need Pedo.

Not sure if you could see on the TV, but after Hogan kicked one off the ground in the 3rd ( when Brayshaw took a step too many) he tried very hard to pump the rest of the players up....looked like "c'mon boys lift.....we can get these blokes......go boys". Had leadership all over it.

Out Frost In Michie. More mid depth please. Watts or Dawes can ruck for the ten minutes Jamar can't.