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From the game here in Adelaide a few differing views to those who watched on TV it seems. We very much could have won this but needed to take our chances, we did last year, we didn't this year. Frost, Garlett x2 and hogan misses from set shots were awful. We needed them. Hogan is a gun, he can takes marks against two. Wow it's great to have him. McDonald was very good also, walker got a couple cheap. I though Tyson and Newton were pretty ordinary. Jones was ok, Vberg ok, H pretty good. Umpires cost us a few. Bernie was tough at it and made Dangerfield suffer a tough day, he did little. Sloan their best. Dawes did a lot of good today, but it was almost always him vs 2-3 in a contest he needed to nullify. He is very good at that. He is very poor at rewarding himself with a cheap goal and mark. Watts two dropped marks were aweful, they really cost us some mojo, and got the crowd up and about again. We went hard, had a crack......but after Hogans miss the score was 6.11 vs 11.6.....enough said. We didn't switch enough or play fast when we could. And when we had them out the back due to some great defence work we stuffed the long kick forward too often. If Garlett can kick straight he will be gold. Good effort, really good......but I'd like the win. We should beat the tigers next week.

Rain has passed, overcast but should be pretty fine throughout. Good to see quite a few Dees fans on the plane and getting about the city. I have two very excited boys with me for their first ever footy trip interstate, first visit to adelaide, their first win at Adelaide oval is the plan. Must say I read the P Walsh story in the paper today, seems a very mature, well thought bloke, no wonder they've started well. Go Dees.

Loved it, great video MFC. If Vanders had been taken at pick 2 instead of Petracca right now I'd be very satisfied with the scouts and recruiters......to think he comes as a Rookie pick 2 is extraordinary! Wow MFC, just wow.

Couple of other clubs joined our ACL bad news, Mckenzie a huge loss for WCE as would Libba be for the Doggies, no matter how good Macrae and Bonts are. Beams looks very good still, really pleased he's not at Collingwood.

In again thanks Deevoted. Sign me up.

I'll admit to being a glass half full guy up front. Headed down to training for the first time in ages today, the persistent rain didn't help for viewing, or training for that matter. I'm not seeing all the poor skills Clint is talking about, felt like I saw 25-30 kicks in a row hit a leading forward nicely. In match simulation grimes did miss the target on his left.....but he only had it as Salem got caught and he had followed up from deep defence, the grimes story! Really liked what I saw, a lot, I mean a lot of fit healthy, sharp looking players. Toumpas was much faster than I thought. Pedo looked good forward and higher up the ground, kick it well and clunked it. Lead and clean grab out in front of the day for me was big Maxy Gawn, he might just be very intimidating deep forward. We have plenty who can play tall forward with Gawn, Hogan, Pedo, Fitzy, Jamar and Watts all doing it today. Rawlings was teaching a group how to body off when deep forward with your shoulder, and then likewise how to prevent a forward doing this to you......cross very good at this as was Garland. I really liked the look of Newton throughout, from today he would be my pick as an unassuming player who slots 18+ games of good intensity and skill. The defenders (from memory Grimes, tmac, frost, garlo, Harmes, hunt, Terlich, Jetta, Dunn) did some impressive clearing the ball from defence, and after hitting a player about 50-70m out wide on the flank centered in board to Rawlings and then had runners storming past. Grimes excelled at this, Harmes looked good and wow, gee wow isn't hunt super super quick. If he can get on the end of handball running through the middle look out opposition, even if that is Port Melbourne not Richmond. Didn't see a lot of the new young ones, though Petracca did some nice things, Dunny was really pushing him in the ground simulation a few times....."get forward Track, get forward, go.....". Funny moment was when tmac sold viney a huge dummy in the goal square and kicked a goal, boys had a real chuckle. There is some real depth now. A bright year awaits. No Howe, and Vince ran 50 laps.

So,anyone have a view of which of the following, some of whom we hear a lot about, some very little will play the most games in 2015? Newton, Petracca, Riley, JKH, Brayshaw, ANB, Michie, Salem or Toumpas? From a popularity contest on training reports would seem Toumpas and then perhaps Petracca will clearly lead, but I'm thinking Michie and Newton might be the main two from this group - and if I could choose I'd hope Salem and Toumpas were the two.

Very excited after my first view of him at training, wow I reckon we have a serious gun on ours hands that we have wanted for so long. Fantastic recruitment in 2015 Demons, headlined by this guy.

Go watch him train. He's involved, in amongst it, up and about, loving the drills, having a go......already so much more than Sylvia ever did at training. Petracca will be nothing like Col.

Watched Petracca in the running drill and then kicking, marking as they started ball skills. He ran pretty well, clearly not yet in the shape of some of the boys but didn't drop out real early like Jamar, Garland and King. Frost also out pretty early. Petracca seems to have magnificent hands, the ball just sticks, no fumbles. He attacks the ball hard also. He would be a very handy forward pocket; reckon we might see him play 10+ games deep forward this year and be used as a marking target. Other things I noticed: as some have said before, Frost is huge. Viney seems in ripping shape. Gawn and Harmes were doing a lot of ruck tap to rover vs Stafford and Miller. Plus every couple they would have to sprint to the goal square after a centre tap. Clearly a lot of repeat effort running. Gawn looking really good. Mackenzie running fast laps, Dawsey also. Watts, Bail, Stretch, Spencer doing very little.

A win to Grimesy in the repeat running drill. Matt Jones, Viney, Toumpas and I think ANB also high up.

Another way to look at it, who definitely won't be in the Rd1 team? Trengove obviously. Hunt. The rookies. Anyone else definitely not in? Makes some intense competition for spots.

I've known Neita for a while and he is red and blue to the core. Recently left his employer to this is a bit of a career change. Good luck to him. Genuine lovely bloke with pretty good footy instincts.

Might sound a bit simple but all the recent "expert" press is suggesting a clear top 3 is most peoples eyes. If truly the case then how bloody fantastic that we get two of them, and avoid the #1 pick mantle for our first pick. I will be very happy with any of the two mentioned, then get them into our newly improved "good development" environment. Reality now is that these two young men will have a more experienced development coach in McCartney, plus a Goodwin than Scully and Trengove had in a senior coach with Bailey. We are miles in front and haven't even mentioned Roos. I literally can't wait to see Brayshaw band Petracce/McCartin train the house down, get a heap of press, hype and play well pre season.....and not get picked rd1 cause we've got better options!!

A stunning achievement by WSW. While I still live for the Demons as my number 1 love soccer has taken a foothold in our house also. I've been to two World Cups and cannot imagine a better experience in sport as a fan than Timmy Cahill scoring in Kaiserslauten in 2006. Yes I struggle to imagine the Dees winning a flag could be better than the emotion at the end of that game 8 years ago. We truly do live in the worlds sporting capital and I love it. Go Victory, Go Demons ... fail soon Western Sydney and stay down GWS..

So, if we had picks 2 & 3 last year, at this same stage who would we have wanted? Billings and Scharenberg perhaps? Heavily influenced by media hype I'd suggest. But we would have all made a good case for Kelly also, I'd suggest very few would have suggested Bontempelli in the top 3. Here we are one year on and if the draft was done again today I'd suggest Bontempelli may well have stormed into the top 3. My point, ignore the media hype, and have faith we now have quality people in charge of drafting. I've no idea in 12-24 months time who is likely to be the then rated 2/3 from 2014 draft, by I desperately hope we got them both.....be it Patracca, Brayshaw, Lever, Durdin, Laverde, Mccartin, Wright or someone else.

FB Jetta Dunn Hogan B Grimes McDonald Vince C Lumumba Tyson Watts HF Kent Dawes Howe FF Garlett Garland Pederson R Gawn Viney Jones Bench Frost Salem M Jones Michie emerg pick 2, JKH, Jamar

Actually I'm pretty sure every single year pick 23 goes on an unproven player. Very happy we used this pick on someone we had seen in 15+ AFL games, not 15+ SANFL games.I read on here two days ago someone saying we should use pick 2/3 on guns mids and 23 on the best young tall.....seems we did exactly that. Nice work Dees. Welcome Frosty.

Do elaborate? Is it him scoring 120+ supercoach every week....getting 32 touches and kicking 3 goals.....in black and white.....that bugs me also. Would feel much better if he did it in red and blue though!

I love the way Trengove has been loyal since day 1, the opposite of T$. But......I love winning games of footy more. Go get Beams Demons, he is clearly finished at the Maggies, take advantage of what the Lions wouldn't do. Get it done. Get Brayshaw, Pies can have Petracca at 3. Start on ball next years with Beams, Tyson and jones in the guts. bang!

No they won't, it will get traded to Essendon for Ryder.

I'm convinced the 18 team competition has split the depth of coaches just as much as it has players. At any one time I don't believe there is more than 6-8 Premiership capable coaches in the AFL, to be honest I think this flows through virtually every elite sporting competition. Having on of those capable in charge of your club is crucial for player retention, attraction, the confidence it gives the broader club etc. Roos is clearly a Premiership capable coach, it's proven. The capable coach then needs a capable playing list, and in this aspect we are miles and miles off. I don't believe Buckley, Hardwick, mcCartney or B Scott are premiership capable. They may be, but I don't see it. They all do, or have had a more capable player group than Roos has though. My nervousness is all about whether Goodwin is premiership capable, and too be honest I've no idea. Yes I'd rather Clarkson, who wouldn't......but to get a new coach like Goodwin I am comforted by the fact his learning environment prior to taking over couldn't be any smoother or better, it's well thought, well planned and will ensure capable players understand it. I'd love Roos for longer, but given the situation and our deplorable 40+ years I'm very relieved we've got him for a mini generation. I expect big things in 2015, and think we will see the fruition of that over the next two weeks at the trade table and draft. Premiership capable coaches don't sit idle and wait for it to happen for them (as the Bulldogs have done for ten years in finding a forward), they crack in and get it done. Having coached several state level premierships I do truly believe defence wins flags, but only if you have the attacking quality players to make the most of it.......and we don't, yet. Go Demons.

I met Simon, actually spent a fair part of a day chatting with him at the Clipsal 500 way back in 2000. Lovely bloke, feet on the ground, smart, easy to talk to, was a sensational player. My brief experience says he is worthy of being considered, if Roos and Co think he is better than that then fantastic. Welcome to Demonland Simon. You will become our first premiership coach in 50+ years.

How about pick 3 to GWS for frost and pick 4?

Finally it's starting to show that players like Guthrie and Horlin Smith aren't actually any good. As bartel, Johnson, mackie and co ease down the rest look less than stars........fantastic. Go Roos.