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beelzebub

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  1. its not personal in the sense that i couldnt care less who is is..he just happens to be this bloke Miller ....but its my my personal view.. ( well it'd have to be..it me!!) what a non sensical stancce.. in that he might develop somewhere else... yes he may indeed.. bu [censored] matters not one iota if he doesnt develop at MELBOURNE because then he next to bloody useless at MELBOURNE !! we've already gambled 5 years on him...and even the most optimistic punter would have to agree the jury is very much still out on him ( at best ) played some good games... oh well in that case...keep him definitely !!! what about all the useless bloody games he participated in ??? or do we just ignore them No my view isnt a personal one...its just a cold look at a player. that view is that he's not worth keeping !! it costs money to do so...he's not worth it..
  2. thats the other side of the coin ..just what exactly is he ( any good at playing ) ?? the two parts of the: what is he good at ? what is his worth ? the first....well seriously ; f**k knows !!! the second...he's worth some interst right now as a trade id be cutting my losses ( or lack of gains) and Bail-ing !!
  3. Im happy enough to retain Russian for the moment..but if at the end of next year it all isnt falling into place so to speak he may be sent packing to Siberia
  4. Point is....not that he can ( or cant ) mark...... its what he does with it afterwards !! Thats the problem
  5. well.. I reckon we have a few who might step up to the plate at CHF.. and for me the most likely this year is Newton. As we seem unlikley to get the ruck drafts on offer ..I would like to go for a big motored kid; some energy coming out of the middle or failing that id be a littel unconventional for the present and go looking for another Dustin Fletcher.. everyones looking for rucks etc. You can at worst play the oppsotion in this dept...but if you dont have a good FB youre well and truly stuffed. We still dont have a proper FB , Carrol is a good second up only.
  6. what was the real problem with Neaves ?? From what I observed he seemed a likely one... seemed to be coming along ok!! was a bit surprised he was sent packing.. Is there a back story ?
  7. when were these times of dangerousness ?? lol.... must have missed that decade !! In all seriousness I cant see any point in offering a 1 year contract to someone Millers age.. He either has the goods...or he doesnt. A 1 year deal is like playing tennis mid court or backig all favourites.. I mean you might win.. but you dont win anything !! We've seen enough of Miller to know what he's capable of (?). So had Bailey; he's reasonably up to speed on our boys ( as he would have had to study them to bits for the job interviews/presentations etc ) Miller will NEVER be any use at CHF and have my doubts about using him at the other end..This is the whole dillema, where do you actually put him where he's of use ( of any impact !! ) What many of us are saying is lets not make the miustake of hanging onto another player that long that 1) they cease having any trade value as any supposed potential is exposed as fraudulent 2) Footy is brutal, game time needs to be devoted to players that wil come on and Miller hasn't. We all would have preferred he had..but he hasnt...thats just reality !!
  8. Thats the sad reality of the season .. Trav still rates in our top 10.... What is really says is that that top tem still didnt amount to much in real terms...just that they were "our" best !! sad huh !!
  9. au contraire.. I think the Miller detractors will be unfortuantely vindicated ( should he still be here for 08 ) what can he do 1)... lead out to the middl e of nowhere.. he's really good at that....nett effect.. slowing of attack..defocusses forward thrust. value 1/10. and the one is only because we have the ball !! what can he do 2) he goes in all argy bargy ,head hunting...all Grrrr grrr and neanderthal !!.. ..net effect.. gives away frees, fronts tribunal. Value 0/10 and we dont even have ball.. well done !! lol he cant ( or wont ) kick for sh!t.. has no dimensioanlity to his game.. on the upside...he has room for improvement...LOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  10. a pretty fair assessment even if nothing really new. Thats probably the rub of it.. we al know only too well where and when teh wheels fell off
  11. Be happy enough if we can just bring the Run back !! ...then youd be..like...the fast ressuction shuffle !! B)
  12. you really oughnt be so hard on yaself...cant have been all your fault.. lol ...
  13. a little bit of tyre pumping I think you'l find !! ( adds to his value )
  14. pretty fair I would have included Juice in the rising stars though .. A good read
  15. somewhere I recall reading that no one else is interested in Meeson.. well not Richmond or Carlton.. so CAC has offered the Crows some meagre morsel...and either they bite at that or we will grab him in the PSD if no trade forthcoming. he wont cost us much any which way
  16. Keep in mind...im suggesting that line up is for 08.. 09 may be different again depending on performances !! We can all sit back and want to trade this bloke for that etc etc..ad nauseum.. However..it takes two to tango. If the reciprocal trades arent available then you can only do what you can do. Im sure htis is the pragmatic approach being taken by Bailey. Do what you can, work with what you have, change as you can change !! You wont get everything you really want...just some of it; unless youre just dead lucky come trade/drafting.
  17. To me the single biggest problem for Miller is he's a one trick pony...all he seems capable of doing is leading out ( and a long ways oout..lol ) to take a mark in a position which puts the forward line to disadvantage as its just slowed it all up !! Very mono-dimensional. The novelty of these has well passed its expiry date. Now maybe Bailey has something else to teach him.. ( but is he capable of learnig it ? ) I'd rather another team took that chance !!!
  18. I really am thinking along Jaded's lines.. Ruck stock: White > Jamar >Meeson. With PJ regroomed as something else...but can pinch hit in ruck should injuries cause things to go south. That doesnt look too bad all things considered for 08
  19. maybe , just maybe the thinking is.. sign him on 2... he does or doesnt(play). If he doesnt its easier to trade him contracted !! Its just a thought !!
  20. My take on all this ...( and similar ) is bailey obvioiusly has a knack for eeking something out of blokes that wasnt forthcoming previously. This has various degrees of success. 2008 most likely will be a bit of a rebound year, but probably a developmental , weeding out year. its most likely neetas last.. White cant be too far behind. Players like Robbo and Junior will probably only have 2 or there abouts years left. Thats a far chunk of experience to go in a few years. Getting others up to speed and bringing them further along their skills road is going to be the challenge, not only for the coach(s) but for the players themselves. I only expect Melbourne to be competitive next year. I suspect a remoulding of the team will start. Players like Russian etc may or not come into their own but are obviously insurance. I agree with Jaded that PJ might/ought be developed more as a KPP. I suspect one stance taken by the new regime is that only so much can be done/effected each year. Some culling/retirement has already taken place, some trading wil loccur. A different looking Melbourne ( with hints of familiarity ) will take to the field. Things will be trialed.. observations taken.. more changes made etc...end of 2008 more changes etc.. and so it goes on. You would have to think a couple of players know its now or never. Obviuosly Bailey sees something we dont. I suppose we wait and watch
  21. In all likely hood 2008 will be a development year... Miller aint developing any more!! thats just what is !!!! rather give the the time effort ( and money ) to bring someone else on.
  22. Its Miller Time for sure.....all froth and bubble and not much else !!!! :D
  23. am very happy that some think Miller has talent.. hopefully Sydney agree with you enough to release someone like Buchanan who really does !! what ever Miller is.. he hasnt shown to be of any use to us...and thats all that matters from a Melbourne perspective.. so when ajudicating on the qaulities or otherwise of frosty ask.. does he make any difference or impact on a footy ground in red and blue ? I think he doesnt... so am happy to trade him for someone who might !!
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