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Thats very disappointing for everyone. Strangely, believe it or not I've seen the effort that goes into a banner. Not to be sneezed at. When that effort is doubly heartfelt it truly hurts. Im sure Clarry appreciates the effort and sentiment. No doubt disappointing for him as well. Crossed fingers and toes the gods deem fit to calm the winds for a while.

Now now Dr, stop prescribing reality 😉

Yes read that and chortled ... Purple fielding some bait. All a bit me too ... The short answer is of course, yes he will be.

Couldn't make this 💩 up !! The hypocrisy is strong with this one (afl)

Reckon they've stamped Bill's card.

That addresses the need... doesn't actually address the commitment. Just saying. The Circus WILL come to town , players will come, some go. No omelettes without eggs as they say. Time will tell

Goes without saying..

Yep.. certainly wasn't rebuild at start of the season. The only semi successful rebuild this season has been the narrative and even that's not persuasive. Smacks of make it up as you go along. I'm always fascinated that why any FD would attempt a 'new' game plan where upon you don't have the requisite skillsets in enough players. My feeling is you don't and this is why I've always thought that the brain's trust has thought the essential plan was OK, just needed tweaking. That this hasn't panned out to me only reinfthe idea there is much wrong about our footy. On some days our hamfisted approach kinda works... for a while. Better teams pull it apart. So are we still trying to find a version of our game that holds fast , or is it still evolving ( steered or unstirred) and do we know which players can make it work ? Strangely I wholeheartedly believe Goody believes he's onto a winner and we have a core of players to do it. I just happen to disagree

Busy next year ? Asking for a friend

Opportunistic revisionism. The powers that be were/are deluded

Not really 🙄

Circus coming early to town ?

I don't presume ALL who think Goodwin ought to stay are happy clappers but they are certainly numerous. Just as you purport we have dismissed the question mark whilst its still really there.That was always the notion ( imo ) I.e.. Should he stay, should he go ? It all falls as to how anyone quantifies and qualifies their view.. Somewhat classic half glass full or empty or some other fraction. I just question the glass itself. Many might still be here next season continuing the discussion. I would think more evidence one way or the other will surface. I just want us winning. Not fussed who. It's not the norm now and hasn't been for a long while. I've suggested before the end to this season might offer insights. Beating contemporaries isn't a guide it's how we fare when pushed.... how our game holds up.... or not. Bullies, Hawks and Filth will be tests.. They'll tell us much.

Compromise or an opening of a door

I'll ask you too Why are you here if it's not your cup.of tea ? Dont hang if you don't like the company or comments. Just go do the other stuff you enjoy. Surely 🤷‍♂️ And for the record sts.... if some want to suggest Goody has $#@!'d up and were here lamenting as a result. Thats an opinion Some might even say it's their considered appraisal and I don't see why that's hard for some to stomach. Where stuff has gone right we applaud. Where it's gone/going wrong it's fair game to suggest change. Go Dees

Lol... pretty much 🤣

Been dealing with it all year !! Should be allowed to heal properly

Why do so many have difficulty understanding the tenet of the topic. 'Time to go ' It's a suggestion. It's a valuation many of us share about should he or someone else continue. I fully understand there's a better than even ( unfortunately) chance he will be there. But we aren't there yet. He has to show some better abilities to arrest our demise than are currently on display. Please don't think beating the Roos is the get out card to.any of this, or even a half baked Blues. But.. it's unlikely anyone at the MFC , quite frankly, would have it in them to pull that pin. Mores the pity. All happy clappers can rejoice . What's more important ? That Simon Goodwin is the coach or the team is given the best available at this current time. Im sure you'll suggest he is. I accept that's your position. Kindly accept some think otherwise. I only care about the Club/team as it plays. The jumper is paramount.... Personnel/players come and go. Go Dees

Really.. Someone posited that the evidence is Concrete. You get what that infers.... solid, irrefutable etc. I simply question that and you get your knickers in a knot. What a joke. All we did was beat North. Yep better than losing and some aspects looked better. It was an undermanned Roos. Let's not get too carried away. You don't get to cancel those that question things. Hardly venting. You're overplaying your hand. I have acknowledged positives. Not in this thread granted. Again... are we as bad as suggested ?.. Logic says we have to be exactly as bad as we are and where ladder puts us. If we win more games....that might change. Let's see where the season finishes ..yes ?

Nothing is ever quite what it seems with figures eh... Invoking the exquisite thinking mind of the late Dave Allen .. I present... So 30% are caused by drinking. Therefore 70% aren't.. So drink more and save lives !! Now obviously this is a fallacy. But it shows how much context is needed to provide ANY relevance. I know the O.P. sought to shine some sun on our predicament but I struggle to see much beyond the darkish clouds at present. The ladder suggests we aren't much chop. I agree. I reckon we're exactly as bad as we seem. But that's not 100% bad Let's see where at come seasons end.

Concrete Data ???

It doesn't. It's a joke, well it would be. Just once I love our club to amble up to AFL house , rap on the doors with a Please Explain. Then spread out all the inconsistencies. Esp as applies to us. Never happen of course but I honestly don't know why we wouldn't/shouldn't. What are they going to do ?

Hell .... wouldn't you love to see Milky play out 300 !! Look after him Dees .... 😉

And this is where folk like your good self find reasonable assessments so hard to swallow. As others here have already suggested. It's not about doing everything either right or wrong. It's about being able to affect successful results in a sustained manner . Simply having attained a flag ( and kudos to all ) does not guarantee nor qualify you ever more. What worked,now doesn't. Who was successful, now isn't. Some, I among those , question the ability of the current FD regime which by default has Goodwin as its major influence to bring home the bacon. It's not an overly complicated premise. Those that find continued dissatisfaction with the current trajectory and call for change will continue to do so unless we become successful. If that'sboring.... go find another thread. Why are you here boring yourself ?

Do what the .... you like.. Easier to ignore what you have to say if you can't even stick to the topic. Some of us can.