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At least he’s not fat.

Putting the team first might include giving a legend of the club the right finish. Other players won’t want to see Jones chewed up and spat out.

And fatter.

I’m mates with a bloke who is a pro punter (alberit on horses and dogs) and he has had a massive bet on us @2.20 seems unders to me.

Lewis Jetta is a horrible kick. The Rioli’s rival the Ablett’s as the greatest football family ever, they are the exception not the rule. You are making my point for me.

Happy for you to name which player I would lose on. Hunt and Frost both have AFL standard skills with pace wich is unusual. The thing that lets them both down is decision making.

I’d argue it is a player issue. 17 players go in to post season surgery. No matter how good a team is every time a player goes out a worse one comes in. Lever and May are two of the highest paid players at the club. We are leaking goals, coincidence?

While we play a rotational zone Jones can’t lock down a single player.

Nathan Jones is likely to be in our next team of the century. He stood by MELBOURNE during the worst years when he could have easily left for more money. Paul Roos, who is a better judge than I, rated his leadership and rates the winning goal he kicked to seal a final as one of his greatest moments he has seen watching football. Bernie Vince won our b&f, the following year he was moved to the backline and was never the same. Benie Vince was more dynamic and had more tricks than Jones. Jones can’t play anywhere to AFL standard other than in the guts much like Dom Tyson. Oliver is close to the best midfielder in the league but I think he could spend less time in the midfield and more across the ground to provide Jones an opportunity to spend more minutes on the ball. We need to give him more time in the midfield or send him into retirement.

We will win this and change the tragectory of the season. Small grounds suit us, until we adapt to the 6-6-6 rule. We were better on smaller grounds last year before the AFL changed the rules and unfairly lessened our recruitment strategy of competitive beasts.

I’d rather our game plan fails now than in September. we will win the next 3 straight and come into premiership favourite. Betting for and against Melbourne is the only time I ever do well punting.

Brad Green is in danger this week.

I would back Frost, Hunt and May to outrun any of them.

4 2 6. depends if the AFL change the rules at the end of the season that makes a mockery of the previous 5 years of recruitment strategy.

He was supposed to be. We didn’t draft him for bravery or because he was a competitive beast.

When we were flying last season our best pace and skill player, Garlett, couldn't get a game.

Happy to PM you on this one.

Sorry if this is overlap on other threads but I think that being able to draft fast, skillful, players of AFL standard is borderline myth. The really fast ones often don't have the endurance. We drafted Jack Watts at number 1 who was both fast and skillful. It didn't work out. Toumpas fast and skillful and it didn't work out. Both early draft picks and early draft picks on stats alone, are much more likely to work out. The same posters complaining that we took Toumpas over Wines are complaining we take competitive beasts over pace and skill. Chris Judd and Dangerfield, widely considered two of the best players of a generation were/are more speed and competitive beats than speed and skill. The 6-6-6 rule has left us exposed for pace & skill but you can't draft for the future properly if the AFL keeps changing the rules without notice. After the rule change we drafted May who is pace, competitive beast and skill. The majority of demonland are complaining on the back of an injury that may or may not be related to the condition he turned up in day 1 of the pre-season. HE is the type of player we are screaming for. Competitive beast players are overwhelmingly more consistent that skilful outside players. Drafting a fast, skilful competitive beast player, happens very rarely for any team. Lightning fast, skillful and competitive players almost always end up the best player in the league think Gary Ablett jnr and Daniel Kerr. This idea we are not drafting pace and skill reminds me of when Geelong took Tenace. You can only draft what is available. It doesn't matter how fast and skillful a player is they still need to be able to get the footy. I would love it if Demonland posters could provide examples of pace and skill players that we should have taken in the last 5 years. That have worked out.

With a family member who left another mediocre club (not Melbourne) to pursue a career at the GC, I can assure you my family member was amazed at the lack of expectation or training requirements after moving clubs between his last game and start of preseason at a new club. GC did no testing beforehand and gave him no training schedule to follow in the offseason. May and KK might be long term super trades because we actually have done our due diligence. Both are proven quality player (KK barely but he looked a real talent early in career) yet came through a poor system. Massive upside on quality, proven players. Time will tell

He is a weapon in the area we suck at. Everyone we have lost to this season has killed us transitioning the ball out of our forward line and into their own.

In the Geelong game where Oliver had 44 possessions and 15 clearances I was amazed at the number of times he was the last man chasing the Geelong players running into open goals. There is no issue with Oliver’s two way running.

Oliver not skilful enough for you?

Bombing it in should suit Weid. He is supposed to be a great contested mark and able to mark the ball at the highest point.

From all reports he was getting involved in footy matters at Collingwood and was very decisive.

I’m not saying we were great but it makes it tough when you get slaughtered by the umpiring