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i don't think west coast would want tyson or garlett, and i doubt picks that we will be able to offer them (e.g. this year's second rounders that we hold) will do them much good they'll either keep gaff or let him walk and use the compo pick, either as a trade or as an actual pick the general story today seems to be that they're keeping him and mcgovern and lycett, which seems remarkable - some speculation is that most of nic nat's 2019 payments can go into the injury payments, so they get some salary cap relief there, and then he's only contracted til end of 2020 i believe, and obviously won't be paid at the same ratio as current as he'll have missed three prime years of his football life with knee knacks - i'm sure he'll still be on $1m or thereabouts, but in terms of 2021-24 pay that'll be lower portion of cap to his current remuneration

Meth Coke won’t match tho They’ll take their compo pick and trade it for Kelly from Geelong

we don't have to offer anything other than cash he's a free agent

eh? tyson, toumpas (failure), viney, oliver, brayshaw - all 'pure' mids and weideman is NOT a debacle

hogan's mum now lives in melbourne and he grew up going for the crows why on earth would he go back to wa now?

lying is the second language of football

i've heard it @ProDee words mean nothing

cash money and to play for his old man and uncle's club

If he could weed out those shocker short kicks and indiscriminate long bombs he’d be having a ripper season I know that the talk is Freo is into him, but I believe North have made him their next major money target

Now leading the fairfax player of the year voting

gaff will cost a pretty penny - either to extract him or for meth coke to keep him

What article?

pretty simple @beelzebub - tv rights deals around the world are shrinking this is the opportunity for us to get a home base before the big money of the last 15-20 years becomes a trickle rather than a flood

ultimately, getting this - or any other permanent 'home base' - in place by the start of the defining of the next broadcast rights deal is the test for the bartlett-pert regime if we don't have a dedicated home in planning stage by the end of 2021 season we are in big trouble

gaff or dalhaus for mine

the push to have a bye post-darwin continues: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-want-a-break-after-darwin-games-20180705-p4zpoj.html

seeing as we were all set to pick billings, while kelly would now be at the aints...i'll say no

it's funny, but if you look at our history of 'down years' over the last twenty years, we always seem to be at the bottom when the draft class is nowhere near as strong as our middling / good years they're raving about this year's draft class, and of course we've traded out of it 1997: arguably got this one right with pick 1 and pick 2 - trapper and jeff white (traded) 1999: banned from first round, our pick 4 gifted to freo cos they were wayne jackson's baby, same as gc17 and gw$ are gil's 2001: stuffed it up, picking molan 2003: chook mclean and 'one big pre-season away from superstardom' sylvia 2007: cale morton and jack grimes, sigh 2008: jack watts, double sigh 2009: $cully [later converted into hogan] and trengove 2010: pick 5 became pick 12 as we were shunted down the draft order via the introduction of gc17, stuffed it up by picking cook anyway 2011: same as above, except this time it was gw$, and we traded it for mitch clark 2012: pick 3 traded to ensure gw$ didn't nominate viney, wasted pick 4 on the toump 2013: 2 and 20 converted into tyson and 9 2014: 2 and 3 used on trac and gus 2015: oliver and weed 2016: used on above trade 2017 and 2018: used as leverage for lever at the time i thought it was a good deal, but clearly the pick 2 and 20 for tyson and pick 9 was a complete mistake given just how good kelly has become

fwiw, jason taylor loved lewis taylor in his draft year - i believe that if salem had gone by pick 9, we were all set to take the diminutive lewis i...am not a fan

updates from the weekend - de goey signs a short-term two-year deal with pies, whose salary cap is bursting - murphy re-signs with carlton, so he won't be coming to us

Why would he come to us when North - a consistent finals team - are also in the chase?

2021, just using our current list, plus gaff? B: Jetta - O Mac - Petty HB: Hunt - Lever - Hibberd ? Gaff - Brayshaw - Salem HF: Petracca - Hogan - Fritsch F: Weideman - T Mac - Melksham Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney I/c: Harmes - Spargo - Tyson - ANB Emerg: Stretch - Hannan - Ginger Ninja - Filipovic of course that's completely unlikely given players will inevitably come and go, and form will wax and wane, not to mention debilitating injury etc and who knows how sides will change their structure once the anti-density netball rules come in

I’d like to keep Tyson and get Gaff in, personally I still think Tyson can be vital to our future side make up (Vince, Lewis and Jones could all be gone by the end of 2020, although Jones may play on), and Gaff would be a fantastic addition It just adds more depth to the side 2021 could see, possibly, four of our best 25 currently players gone; those three listed above plus Jetta, who’ll be 31 by the time 2021 rolls around - more if someone like a Hogan declares he wants to go back to WA, or ANB to SA, or even if a Brayshaw gets an offer they can’t refuse at the end of this year - who knows, North may throw their war chest at him now Ideally I’d like to build and grow our side, and the best thing about Gaff joining the side is he costs us nothing other than salary cap space

If we can’t get Gaff, then I completely agree he should be the secondary target

you need to settle, saty i like gaff, personally would definitely have him at the dees