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hm, gonna be some tired boys tonight. swans hit and hit hard and dominated in great stretches of time. tough game.

The notion of paying our primary key defender aged 23 a 'mere' $350k is laughable. On the open market his value is probably around $600k. I would expect we will sign him for around $500k over four, as per Bombay's post.

on treloar, i was having a discussion with a pies mate about him v tyson and their relative worth. i would think they're reasonably commensurate? he thinks treloar is way ahead (as he should be, really, as he's on double the pay packet). i, for one, want prestia at the dees in 2017 and beyond as he's clearly a very, very good player and he would clearly benefit our side.

methinks the year was incorrect. the size difference btw eagles 04 and eagles 05 was extraordinary and has been well documented that many believe there was something nefarious afoot over that summer.

It's byo boat I would assume. Flood levels have receded since recent downpour so you can take the 60m stroll to the SCG...

It might be quiet on the tv it at the game the demon roar definitely out powers the pies and the Tigers in games I've gone to this year. And when we boo $cully it's the loudest booing at a game I've ever heard outside of a port-crows showdown.

melksham was a second round pick as a 25 year old player the first year he was with us - i think he was way overrated at this, would've thought closer to a third rounder. lumumba i'd say cost us the equivalent of a fourth round pick - our original offer to the pies - at 28 years of age. hibberd i'd say is worth about a third rounder - probably the first half of the third round, but i would've thought a pick around 35-45 or so. i don't mind if he comes to us as i think he's a pretty good player, but do i think he'll be worth our first pick in a draft, around 28-35 or so? i don't. so therefore, i reckon his value is around about our third round pick. the alternative option is to give them our second and third rounder for their third rounder and hibberd, which would actually bring our third round pick higher as a result. that'd be my preference.

haven't beaten them twince in a season since 88 - when, funnily enough, we beat them three times in a season of football! i was super happy with the way it all played out today. we started like a house on fire, couldn't put it on the board, they got momentum for ten minutes, it evened out for the last quarter, and from the push-and-shove onwards we were absolutely dominant. it was so good to watch. i thought conditions were really tough out there - super swirly wind. gawn is a colossus. if he's not better than goldstein, he's close. vince and jones wasted possession early on but settled into their groove, tyson and viney were excellent, i thought kennedy was really quiet early but as the game moved on he started bobbing up everywhere - had more marks than any other player on the ground. he just kept running. probably my biggest disappointment was the crowd - i had hoped it might approach 70k - we fell 10k short. there was 65k there last time we played them, when it was their home ground i think?

Probably his best game today. Read the ball in flight, impacted contests and was good with his disposal. He, his big bro and Frost should be the key position defenders for us going forward. Obviously if we can shake a Hurley free then happy days, but otherwise it's O Mac and co who will lead the way forward for us from the backline.

Not on the scg.

Phew. Bugg was huge on Sidebottom. Big job next week on one of Hanneberry, Parker or Mitchell.

Very tough conditions out there with the wind. We look to have settled our key backs for the next eight to ten years hopefully with the two McDonalds and Frost. With Hunt and Wagner providing great run and Jetta being our best defender, there's lots to be excited about.

Bugg did his hammy didn't he? So that's one. VandenBerg looked sore and Stretch and Oliver came into the game as it went on but the latter in particular looked to be running up and down on the one spot at one stage. Bugg for Garlett? Grimes? ANB? Depends on the role required on a small ground I guess.

Were targeting Sidebottom big time - absolutely nailing him at every opportunity. Good to see. Now just to keep that quarter of footy going for another two.

Shocking last twenty minutes. Terrible skills.

Didn't we try to land Merrett a couple of years ago when he was also a free agent? Methinks he's more likely to retire at the end of the year than play on.

and i don't think either side will agree to just a first round pick at the end of the year for either brad crouch or dion prestia.

the issue with crouch is the value. before injury, easily worth a first rounder - possibly plus something else that was fairly decent. since then, not so much. still, if you could prise him from adelaide for a single first rounder, would do it. same with prestia. so say we luck out and could either for the low, low price of 2017 first round pick - which one?

he's barely able to get on the park. would be interesting to see what value he has, that's for sure.

Grundy down in the rooms.

Rohan another hamstring.

i thought tippett was a knee? they're missing him big time around the contest.

it should be fairly rudimentary to work out if you can find out staff lists - whichever club had a non-anglo player development manager at some stage over the last three years.

giants are terrifying with how slick their ball movement is. have swans won a clearance or kicked a goal since tippett went down?

well, we definitely know that we've chased hooker and hurley and they're most likely staying, plus chased hibberd. prestia is mentioned every year.