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The only way we get a decent return for TMac is paying at least a quarter of his annual salary. Hindsight of course but the FD got way too excited about the 2018 season with both the length and $$$ offered prior to the 2019 season. 4 years at that cost is silly regardless of how well he played that one year. Same applies to the Goodwin contract.

Baker showed some stuff against GWS that had me thinking he was worth persisting with. I remember a time when Kamdyn McIntosh was ridiculed by Richmond fans and now he's a triple premiership player. Give him our confidence and a block of games to own the position and if after that he's still battling then I'm happy to look outside the club.

Clark is either staying at Geelong or heading to his home state of WA. Constable is a pure inside mid of which we already have too many. Narkle would be handy

He's not nimble enough for a wing. A high half forward link man perhaps, but not a wing.

The combined value of these two would be an early second round pick at best I believe. Particularly if they shoulder the entirety of McDonald's horrible contract.

I think we will end up trading Tom for a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick, possibly even next year's. GWS have cash to splash with all the high profile trade requests they are copping over the past month; can't see there being an issue with them taking on Tom's salary if they get him on the cheap in a trade. Win win, frees up cap space for us and fills a positional need for them.

Any club looking at TMac will be looking to deploy him in his natural position of key defender. GWS need to replace Aiden Corr, if anything the Hogan news strengthens TMac to the Giants as they will likely be enthused by the prospect of surrounding him with a former team mate and familiar face.

I agree with that. Also would be nice to see our selectors punish poor form. To your point, we need contributing players on the park every single round. And, I know, how can you tell who is in form with no seconds comp? To have a vastly healthy list and Melksham not be dropped once is insanity in my book. Its one thing when you're bottom 10 isn't performing and it's another to keep picking them.

Using Richmond as an example, it's the likes of Martin, Cotchin, Edwards, Lynch and Short that make their bottom 10 look better than they actually are. Their prime movers set the tone and carry the team on their back. If you look at our supposed prime movers in Oliver and Brayshaw for example, how often do we see them stuck in 1st or 2nd gear on transition? I'm sure it's not as simplistic as any of that, and probably a combination of various factors, my point is that whilst 5 new guys in the best 22 may elevate us it won't change the attitude problem of our top echelon players. Looking forward to seeing this coaching re-shuffle.

It is an interesting theory, however it doesn't explain our top 10 players picking and choosing when to exert consistent effort, again, from quarter to quarter.

That's all good and well but what about our inherent mental fragility from quarter to quarter.

He would compliment our midfield nicely in my opinion but the cons of his contract terms and trade value lead me to want to pursue lesser targets.

I wonder how influential Alan Richardson could be in luring Billings to the MFC.

Would take him if we got him cheap and Freo paid some of his salary. Otherwise the baggage is too heavy.

Agree. Just passing on information

Take with a grain of salt but there's a rumour doing the rounds that Petracca has been asked to stay on the Gold Coast by Gil and the execs, who counted the votes early to ensure broadcast access to the victor. All but confirming that Petracca has, at the very least, tied the thing.

Just baseless rumours at this point. As far as I'm concerned he'll be at the club in 2021. Unfinished business

6 months under burgess should do the trick

Collingwood would rather [censored] in their hands and clap then allow De Goey to walk to the old enemy

Agree. If we can shed some TPP by moving on some players that in my opinion are surplus to our needs in Tmac and Brayshaw, we should go hard for Cameron.

If he wants out cause he finished 5th in the best and fairest that is exactly the type of attitude that makes this club bottle it every season. I want team first players not these stat and individual accolade chasers. Pathetic if true

Can we bundle Clarko into the deal?

JV alone is not the answer but if you let him go there is a huge void to fill. The way he attacks opposition can really motor our pressure, often you'll see if he's up and about tackling and harassing like a mad man the whole team follows suit. I didn't see that once from Melksham this season, it's an indictment that he never got dropped. I've seen Petracca steadily increase his instruction giving and overall leadership in the last 12 months. Here's hoping he continues on this trajectory because he's a player that would inspire through on field actions, which Max lacks in my opinion.

Melksham was pathetic this season, Vandenberg was in and out of the team, and the jury is still out on Gawn as captain in my opinion. We're pretty thin in the leadership department if you ask me, Viney has it in spades... agree with the OP

Yep. Would be very surprised if he landed anywhere other than Carlton. Need Tomlinson to get in his ear