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Thats a ridiculous comparison. JJ was a perfectly legit sub as part of our 23 immortals thst won the game. That he missed out on getting on the field is again a quirk of Goody's inflexibility. McStay was injured last Friday night and consequently never considered for the team. Nor was Taylor Adams. Ginnivan looks like being the JJ and no doubt is about 99.9 % chance of about playing the last 30/40 mins especially if they need a lift. Two entirely different scenarios. Your comment has AFL written all over it. No connection at all between the scenarios.

Our B and F is a slightly different animal to other awards. Our coaches vote precisely along the lines of how a player carried out his role according to their instructions. Refer Jack Vineys consistently high positions each year. This year he IMO might just be the best bet for the Bluey as it has been his best season without doubt. And if he has almost cost Trac a Brownlow instead of Clarry the writing to me is on the wall. He got max votes where as I think Trac in the last 6 rounds should have got about 5/6 votes instead of the pittance awarded. We shall see on Oct 6 th.

Lick not kick !!

Really be careful what you wish for. Most of the fluff over Naughton is not trading the situation. With JVR and Petty we already have 2 players thst will be good/great for our forward line over the nxt 7/10 years. In case most of DLers if they have any knowledge of footy they would have realised that JVR is the closest player in style to Aaron. Both jump if there is no tomorrow spread packs snd the ball can be marks ( about 1 in 4 ) times. Crumbers are mandatory at the front and centre and another forward should be at the bsck of the pack for that opportunity to run or snapshot a goal. One major difference is that JVR is highly accurate AN is not. Other big difference is that Aaron is 4 years ahead of JVR and scored 45 goals to JVR's 29 this year. I believe JVR is far stronger in the body and is more suited to the hurly burly of the FF position. Comparing Petty is a small sample but what Ican say is AN has scored a top of 9 goals ( I think) in 4 years and Harry a top of 6 goals in about 8/10 mostly part time roles at FF of which 4/5 have been full time. I would have Petty at FF, JVR in the pocket snd part time ruck ( prob with Naughton) and Aaron as CHF. I would hope that Jefferson was not squeezed out if this recruiting coup was ever done this or next year. Potentially all three should get major ie 45 plus goals if not up to 69/70 if they all played on our forward line. Fritta would still get goals because he is the brains behind many of his snaps marks snd opportunities. Yes Kossie Chandler McAdam ANB Bowser Salem and Spargo who ever plays small should also join the gravy train and get their kick if the ice cream ( goals) if this trade ever sees the light of the day Trac will have to muscle in as he does and get his 30 or plus per year also. Watch out Lions we are coming for you if ever we have these players at our disposal in our dream forward line hopefully a multi flagged one also.

Read "The Roar" comment on the case and it sums it up perfectly Azz. Maynard had no intention of avoiding or not jumping as he clearly and illegally launched himself off the ground to inflict whatever damage occurred and then the case wrongly gave him a leeway falsely excusing him on the .

Sorry about what ? That was then just remember Gawny early on. That was what the stage the Club was at.

That's years ago and don't tell me TMac would be any greater liability if he was tried in defence than asa forward now. His kicking has improved so he wouldn't be a liability as he is able to pass now. You forget TMac was plunged into AFL far earlier than he was ready and had to learn while learning with very average back men no Mays or Levers to cover up. He was the first tall then came Danny Frawley who did much the same and ended up having a great year he was AA. Then he defected to the Hawks after he was also placed at CHF to assist our underwhelming attack. They covered up for him if he made an error and replaced Ben Gibson after he retired I recall. ( hopefully correctly). .

Dumb Dumb Dumb thats right ONE day in Sept that's all we would have !!

Why is the that do you think Haven't heard this before. Always had to give way to F/S and some Academy picks.

Agreed no Naughton. And also steer clear of Harry McKay. Both would only add heartache to our accuracy woes.

Our "karma" payback for Mac Andrews. Only thing is I think the AFL in their wisdom are going to change this Pick40 rule so some Clubs ( us) as usual have been affected already snd Gold Coast still don't have any restrictions under this rule and have got 3 Academy players lined up in this draft. Perfect op for AFL to allow one msybe but restrict the other two under the Pick 40 rule. Too darned logical and fair for AFL thinking. If you are not Cwood and Carlton ( tribunal) or GWS or GCSuns (rules) bring favoured you are just joining a totally abhorrent bordering on corrupt organisation that makes rules on the run!!

Without Trac we would have been lucky to beat Swans in last round. He Didn't get votes on the end Gulden 3 for 42 disposals with Fritta and 5 goals the 2 botes and not sure of the 1 vote but not Trac. To be fair instead of Clarry sideswiping Trac for votes Jack did a great job but thoroughly deserved his top 10 finish. His best season yet and I think the way our Coaches vote he will win the Bluey this year. They vote according to roles played and their instructions. Either will be a worthy winner whoever tops the Players Night of Nights Awards.

You are on the money Dees in Oct AFLW Dees to beat AFL Dees of 17 wins in a row.

Thanks Wheelo.

Holland's BOG in VFL Suns Premiership yesterday .

Fullerton is Lions and Holland's was BOG in Suns VFL premiership yesterday.

I think you are playing tricks with the word dysfunctional Star !! Results don't lie !!

That's the gold standard vs Bottom 10 teams snd wr need more practice vs some Yop4/8 teams for us to work it our no doubt. But I am a half glass FULL person and really believe we could get those flags if we could get our completely defensive approach and also get our young players from CAsey plus trade and draft choices this year it can happen in 2024. No injuries to speak of of course.

Despite I agree with lots you say Star it's no excuse to abandon attacking and snd just play an almost dysfunctional forward line. Proof is in the pudding. 2024 has hot to change and those close losses wins with positive forward team play.

I say that that is no excuse. You have to train players to a plan not just accept we have recruited poorly or wrong style snd make it as defensive snd crowded as possible. We are shooting ourelves in the foot and confusion reigns on the field snd in the decisions made in quality ( or lackthereof) to finish off our scores etc, and of course our horribly Inaccurate results.

The Hawks are a product of Bec Goddard and very lucky to have such a knowledgeable and experienced coach. Didn't like her with Adelaide ( very abrupt I felt) but credit where it's due she has this group while vastly inferior along their beginners trail you can see the discipline and skills some girls have already learnt at this stage of one and a half seasons. Also the standard of play is improving dramatically. Our team is up there with the Adelside and Brisbane teams of Season 1-7 now ( actually past them but tough to beat like them and no passengers) . Just advhoog to watch also. Their Captain Tilly Lucas -Rodd is a bit if a stirrer snd is as physical as her slight but tough frame allows. No doubt plays her role as an example to not let bigger and more senior classy teams lord over her young charges. Typically an unsocial Hawk really. Mick Stear now thst he has a forward line and 30good players to use is a superb coach snd the team and Shia Sloane also are so much a product of 7 years in the system. All credit are we had a lot against us in early seasons but our grounding and lessons are the reason we are the Champs at the moment. Great flexibility and all the skills to rely on. Too bad we are not at all play wise missing Daisy ( How the other teams hoped we would ) but we also learnt well off her smarts and team and Club ethos) ( Best Ch 7 commentator pity you have to put up with that BT ). Can't wait till we play North Brisbane and Crows snd Cats to see how our game stacks up. Ho Dees Boys did 17 do sgnleDt sim yo beat those wins in a row !! Go Dees girls.

Not sure what you are alluding to configuration??!! but Harry only played about 3 games forward snd vs Tigers found his way around quite well. Think JVR kicked 2 or 3 also that day when forward line kicked 19/20 goals. Yes unfortunately not often due yo injury.

That's 5/6 years ago. And is over reacted to. He is abetted kick now anyways amd I also believe defence would be worth a try.

That's a slight on our playing ability and is the same excuse that Binman excuses Goody for this game plan that causes us so much confusion snd Nightmare as 30 players descend in to the arc and clog up our forward line. This is all self inflicted and lazy coaching IMO. Next year surely JVR snd Petty deserve with the crumbers room to operate. it's not playing to win and no wonder we fail to score under this defensive attitude. And what's more I think some supporters have woken up and decided not to go to the Finals while this charade is practised. We badly need a positive coach philosophy and get back to the players enjoying their footy rather than treating like our forward line needs a wall to defend for us to score, Wr have some creative players but their football is being sabotaged by an outdated and boring game plan. One way to start the takedown of a potential dynasty. It must be altered by the Coaches and Footy Dept selecting elite skilled athletes who run on the outside and are known for their finishing skills and disposal up forward and padding to those teammates.

Same here JB was there but MCG Flag beckons.