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Far too dismissive of the depth of injury situation of ours against other teams. It got progressively worse each week depending upon our footsteps half. Results show that and it is right little was done to change the situation. That's the reason if we have a fit list all through the year and don't play underdone and not severely injured players we have a great chance in 2023. The addition of Hunter and Brody plus improvement of some and greater fitness of others especially some younger players and also a couple or more Flag heroes will make a big difference. Tmac alone will be a big help.

I merely picked up on the comment that was our crowds fell off at the end. Not sure 50,000 Pies but we were out numbered for a home game. But the totals were not lower than earlier and IMO what's wrong with counting Finals We had majority by fair way at both.

Lever battled injury also.

Well Luc I can't see how mediocrity is an issue. If you win the McClelland Trophy with both AFL and AFLW counted you need at least big no of wins in one and more than half in the other. it would be good to go back over the last 6 years and check just to see who Was the winner. Don't go for the split up of $400,000 each and $200,000 for the winner. Would be better if $400,000 to the overall winner and $300,000 to each of the Men's and Women's Divisions if this went ahead.

Suspect we may not need it if we win early games vs Dogs Lions Swans and Tigers. But play it again Sam any way!!!

Yes that (Gawny) needs to be watched but it's all about the sum of parts and the final result. We have enough parts to mix snd match centred around talls smalls and the best medium hybrid forward in the AFL as he proved in the GF. And Harry Petty should not be discarded or forgotten. Add Joel Smith also.

Tmac was a big loss and IMO would/could have got us to the GF I suspect but we never would have beaten the Cats in that shoot out.

This should be awarded retrospectively for the last 7 years AFLW has been played. Stll give an AFL Minor Premiers award as well. In 2021 we would have won both awards I think. And the combined MClelland Again. in 2022

I have a feeling that Brown McVee and Chandler will be in the 23 snd Viney and Fritsch return. Your a bit tough on Tmac who not only got 3 goals always makes it much easier for the smalls and mids to play taller and contribute. Just think Hibbo might have to wait till a form lapse or injury even with Salo sidelined for 5/6 or more maybe. Chandler's only blemish was he did not convert so I think he has good reason to be given the confidence to stay in. Viney if fit will maybe push Harmes to the sub. Very hard to judge team and ordinarily JVR deserves a spot but BBB did enough overall for this game where his height might be crucial. JVR very close though. It's going to be a great game hope 50/60,000 get there ( Doggies fans get to the G your team deserves your support) and I am bullish for us this year but respect Dogs as improvers with height now. Dees by 17 pts.

Thsts not reflective of his accuracy ! many others are far worse.

"Even though it was only a practice game " the following to me were apparent about Melbourne: 1. Hunter is a first class footballer smart clever persistent plays footy on his terms with composure and his stylish left foot. Seems a great team man and will have the all the members side of the ground to become a Dees fan favourite just like Lingers is on the outer Warne wing. An A grade addition providing valuable running and disposal depth plus scoring potential. 2. Grundy will also provide and bolster our ruck midfield and forward divisions. Is quick on his feet and is quite skilled on the ground. Contrary to perception he can mark down forward. I can only think he is not regarded as a competent resting ruck from his efforts because he has not been asked to play that role much or not at all. In essence he needs a top defender to be minded and providing our forward entries are consistent and quick he is a danger just like all our other talls mids and smalls who in their own right are from A graders to role players to multi skilled and different styles as 2021 proved. Also Brody will provide our defence with marking and blocking assistance. Another A grade team man who knows the game. And will give Maxy at least 2 years more footy in the red and blue. 3. Improvement in game style and form from Spargo Sparrow ANB and Promising effort from Chandler who moves well didn't take his opportunities on the day. McVee is an addition who again looked up to the speed and flow of our game and defensive style as did Woey in a shorter context. Laurie not so much but great for him have a run and knows what is required now to be in AFL contention. 4. Overall fitness looked great and ball movement and game style plan far superior to 2022 late season. All kicked in and it looked smooth and sharp. 5. From Casey Schache and JVR did no harm to their senior aspirations. Josh is a big sized player in the reserves and just needs some good footy basics and a few tricks plus his size to have a decent chance of being a contributor in the Firsts.when yhe time is required. JVR will debut at some round no doubt snd all Dees fans can't wait to see him get his opportunity. Let's hope he is ready and is not overawed that he can't show his ability on the big stage. 6. A very good preseason now for the real thing with Viney Fritta Salem Dunstan and a couple of others fitness to decide when their season will start and where. A List on song and very hungry looking super dangerous and determined to avenge our disappointing and underwhelming flag defence in 2022.

Yes Rivs disposal can improve and I'm tipping this will come with greater responsibility in the middle and on the ball. One thing we can't disagree on really is his upside is limitless if given this opportunity.

Good point Mon, no rushing him back straight into the Ones. A couple of Casey games to acclimatise back to that 2021 GF First Quarter form.

His cameos in the midfield if ground breaking he will get about $100,000 per year more by seasons end as a star. He has enormous upside in the Yeo category if he succeeds . Tall quick big kick talented and team orientated don't underestimate him jumping into our top 10 if he gets enough time on the ball. He will end up a better player in the midfield than Harmesy Sparrow ANB, that notnunderestimating the above 3 who are all deserved AFL players in their own right albeit at different stages of their careers . All are great Clubman to boot.

Hopefully no rushing injured stars back in 2023. Let's learn from 2022.

Our last 4 crowds at the MCG were: Round 21 vs Pies 70,000 home Round 22 vs Blues 55,000 home Qualifying Final vs Swans 72,000 or 78, 000 not sure. Semi Final vs Lions 62,000 Hardly a drop off. !!! Yes if we played Pies Cats or Tigers would have been sellouts I suppose.

Today 49,850!!! At midday

Both underestimated perennially Salo was injured last year and returned too early to the AFL team.and never got a full go at fitness.

Again I make the point which all the brain power in D/L fail to consider that Casey are not the same as Lions Tigers etc who are within that AFL Club wholly. Until The two groups get together and it is arranged that some one will organise that a report be placed or forwarded to us for placement on the MFC website it's not going to get any priority, Or a member of "Melb media" does it.

Yes FTB really good point you make and I think our growth is a work in progress that will hopefully develop as we continue to have sustained success. Our current team has this season (practice matches only so far admittedly) proved to be playing a very watchable form of footy along with a sort of maturity involving the Clubs seriously good prime movers who have the opportunity to enhance our standing in the AFL as a force to be respected and feared on the field. Our membership base which is growing may realise this group is a potentially generational side who have a great opportunity to not only entertain but create a reputation as our greatest ( and only) modern team capable of forging some sort of success to recall the glory days of the 50's snd 60's. Lets hope for at least 50,000 plus on the 18th to open the season.

Thats the way it should be. Its 2 years nearly since and some players looked much better with another season under their belts. Viz. ANB Spargo Rivers Bowey Sparrow. Plus the youngsters McVee Chandler especially plus Laurie, and it is Interesting that we won today by 50 points with these 3 players SOME D/LERS HAVE SAID WE COULD NOT WIN THE TWO FINALS if they replaced the injured/tired/banged up. Admittedly Grundy and Hunter made a real difference today and a fit Gawny Trac and Lever plus Tmac. We did not have Viney Fritta or Salem 3 A graders in our team today and were in the best half dozen in the GF in 2021.

There is a difference as this is a Tiger team fully from their Club. We are in a different status and would need to at best negotiate such posts of matches that can be placed on our website. Their summary on the Casey site would surely be able to be posted on our website by them after the game I would think. It's important to this comment as it's not comparing apples with oranges in this issue.

Whst are the signs that you believe are relevant? IRW

Sorry Wod I won't go through looking I will be more patient and understanding with my responses in the future. Let's hope we have a great season and plenty of good posts from all D/Lers. Cheers

Yes 50,000/60,000 plus as this is a real need for such a game. If we could get 20,000 Dogs fans we should break last years record. I think both teams are potentially 25% better and a real blockbuster with edge re Lachie Real Desire and two very good modern Footy teams aiming for the top with a rivalry developing as a strong lure for the punters.