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I would have seen Clyde play in 1959 and 1960 and he fitted in to our champion team very nicely at CHF. Tough and uncompromising he will meet more of his glory days mates in heaven. Plenty of looking down and in awe of their record. R.I.P. Clyde and sincere sympathies to your family and friends.
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The Controversial Discussion about the Knee that needs to be had
58er replied to Hatchman's topic in Melbourne Demons
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Not to count out Kossie. Sorry
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I am saying not to count Kossie as a mid as he seems to kick the ball with penetration and get it to the scoring area.
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Agreed Rev but it’s not enough in some basic ways. His Match Day efforts always seem to leave some possibilities on the table. RDB Bev and Sam Mitchell are the best examples of insightful dynamic and creative and maybe Goody will never be that. But he has failed in close matches to explore moves that are aggressive and his Sub rule handling is the worsting the AFL. We so often play with 22 players.!!
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And a Coach who stuffed up his Sub role again, second week in a row. Run was needed and Pup just may have provided it!!
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No we can’t become one dimensional any more than we are. We have a coach who by nature is fixed and we need every bit of vision with our players to be versatile. Become more creative with our players and ffsake use our Sub don’t waste him. Thrte seems to be a set against Pup that he is too small etc. He obviously doesn’t think so let him play and see how he goes. Goody does not seem to full embrace some new players and holds them back. I believe it’s not incidental that both Jordon and Bedford chose to leave. And Woe may be the same if he keeps getting the Sub role over the next year or two. Goody has failed again with the Sub this week. You must give him a quarter yo have any effect on the game and please don’t defend him and say who do you take off. It won’t always be a like for like either. That’s surely good for us and not for the opposition!
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He should play on Sunday if Petts can’t pass a fitness test. Perhaps he needs the opportunity and who knows?
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Disagree He is performing a valuable role at this stage of his development and who’s not to say that he won’t be a forward/ruck players all his career. He also maybe do cameo's in defence as he was a GB in WA U 18’s a below. I can also visualise him playing a kick behind play at times when in the ruck. Yes I still think he is our best bet for FF but we don’t need to be one dimensional about his career. Versatility is now of the best traits players bring to the table and he is making a good fist of it. One day he will explode and kick 5 and never look back or win us the game like he did Anzac Eve in 2023. Besides he thrives in competition on the field and this keeps him active and involved. Plus it provides a mix for his opponent either having to follow or find another forward.
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Christian is with Barrass as only two premiership players on that list. So it’s value for each team really. It’s not to say as any of the listed would not be walk into our team now and Cripps and Pearce and Sicily will likely be contending for the next 3 years or so. Could Christian go forward and be a goal sneak in his last 2/3 years to get the best and longest of his career out of him? A HF flanker or Forward Pocket? Small Cameo on the ball once a quarter?
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Not a bad call either .
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He has trouble using a Sub again. We are playing 22 players and it is not fair on Pup or the team. Then he says we played too safe AGAIN and does that two weeks in a row with his Sub. Said it two weeks ago Goody has got to be creative and positive. If not we won’t have a chance of making Finals. Thst said it was a very good performance and probably our best game since Cats or start of the year.
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It’s not always “about now”. Future and 23/24 yo who have been injured and bought in too quick or underdone need time like racehorses. This time nex t year for you want him tendering for Crows or us? I believe he will finish this season positively and given another proper pre season will return to his best. oh and so will Clarry !!
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No too old and Suns bound probably. This is not our greatest weakness. Solve our forward and mid lines and defence takes care of itself. Match winners needed not match savers !!
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Agree those who want to wait for a mountain of a man before selecting him are off the track. Jeffo looks like a real footballer whose skills are with his feet, hands and brain and those three advantages will beat weight and physique any day. You can play footy if you have ability with limited strength like Kennedy but you can’t get the ball only with 100 kg frame if you haven’t got footy skills. Big picture is with JVR and Petty or another tall Jeffo won’t always get the first defender. I am starting to believe he may even be better than we are hoping such has his development been in 2024 albeit only in the VFL. Time to stop comparing his linear development with JVR and await his time in the sun.
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The last we hear is not necessarily the correct or probable outcome. Playing dorment on your wishes is no crime.
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Thought it was a good entree to our possible team ( minus possibly Salo and no doubt Trac ) also Jefferson is now starting to look much more like the footballer we saw in the highlights and wisely recruited him on that potential. He will fit in our forward line and give it some A grade looks at times His marking kicking and ground ability plus new found developing hardness for the contest bode well for our most maligned part of the ground. Most of the Casey boys given a go have shown they are not too far short of AFL standard. Pup needs a few full games and AMW , Howes are looking reliable calm and rounded to assist us fill in the gaps and improve some facets of our game. Kolt is a good style and will develop in leaps and bounds at half forward and with plenty of cameos and mid field grunt and spirit be a force to be reckoned with by mid 2025 I believe. Apprenticeship time for the rest of the season will be the key Not sure why Chin has kept his place all this time so Kynan would benefit from a real debut as a hfflanker come on the ball cameos to test him out. Whst do we do with Tommy Sparrow ? Is he going to fulfill his potential or fade nicely as a 15 possession player. Maybe make him a tagger and be taken to the ball as he has some strength and hardness plus kicking skill we can still use. If we could guarantee this performance for the next 8/9 games I have no doubt we could again make Finals. But not win a Flag though. And might even win a Final or two,
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On his debut tonight he may even step up one day next season and assist the kick ins. Thought tonight we did get superb distance but just every now and again we should go short and start a run from the back. Our ability to discover potentially good half backs is amazing. We need to if Riv is going to perform in the guts. Seems set for a fine even more impactful career if he can fine tune his disposal.
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Not my figures I think JVR is on the left. BTW Logan is at least a year older than Rooy and if the table provided is correct in Rooy on LH side they are about equal if Logan is one year ahead.
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Is he going to be better than Rooy in a year or two? We need a ready made recruit for forward strength especially if we lose Petty. It’s a pity but we should have gone after say Tex at least 2/3 years ago but also have not had BBB or Tmac for hardly any consistent period fully fit either. Perhsps we should bite the bullet now and swap Tmac and Harry to see if that keeps the defence strong and provides a bigger bodied target up forward along with Fritta plus youngsters and crumbers able to feed of him at times.
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Please get off Clarry's back. Show some respect!
58er replied to Bobby McKenzie's topic in Melbourne Demons
While I understand the Hogan clearance issue for the Club I still look at Jesse and how much better our forward line would be now with him as spearhead. I don’t fancy seeing Clarry in another Guernsey helping them up Finals whilst out mids sort out their level in our midfield of the future. Trading is a two way art and there teams with mids who shouldn’t even be alliwed to do up Clarry’s bootlaces. It is a panic measure to clear Clarry based on 2024 form just the same as Harry Petty. Those D/Landers that wanted to clear Trac at the end of 2019 were just the sort of impatient fans that don’t understand sport or the AFL and the same is playing out now. Don’t think we will see either Clarry or Petts and it may have something to do with their very early intro to this season and their not in great form consistently in 2024. But a full pre season can change things around dramatically. If that happens our team already looks 4/5 goals better. -
Ross Lyon sorted out the Saints famously about 15 years ago. Just dropped some struggling stars and woa a huge lift in form permanently, Msybe this is necessary. Our Coach has never been good with Any thing resembling a Plan B or C. Fighting off a tag. Put the player where he has to play footy not the man In the goal square Have Clarry lead out from the square for a period. 2/3 goals will disrupt that scheme, where are the other players to help Clarry?? Gawny has the same problem at times. Put Fritta at half back for 10 mins. Change the thinking or on the ball. It’s all about making it not what your opponent is comfortable with. Change it up. One other thing Who/ What is our leadership group? Gawny JV and ??? About time there is a concerted effort to lead and lift our aspirations and performance and determination. Our mojo is missing and there is something “ rotting in the state of Naarm”. It needs to be eradicated. Too many of our goods/ greats of 2021 are accepting mediocrity. This is no dynasty it’s becoming a travesty of large proportions growing by the Round. We are heading to the Lions Den and anything less than our very best will be punished on the scoreboard mercilessly. And I suspect that an urgent need for a change in coaching preparation and attitude is necessary. The players are playing scared as if the world is on their shoulders/heads. They need the vision and fun back into their game. Enjoyment not just artificially manufactured but genuinely evident with tackling team ethos and togetherness. Then all the skills are naturally approached and enjoyed and can be lauded together. Goody has 9 rounds to provide an answer as do some players. Some have gone from Champs to chumps letting their standards drop. Our toughness has disappeared also. And an encouraging word from Lady Pres might be just what the doctor ordered. Amazing but do you remember a certain ex Pres go IMO after that performance vs Port legitimately viral in 2020 and what happened a mere 15 months later. Otherwise it will go viral somehow between now and next season if it’s not addressed both on and off the field. The AFLW are also on notice after their sudden demise from grace last season. Have they removed some irons from the closet. Let’s see also in 2024. Sorry but at the moment we have a very similar vibe as before 2014 of no leadership and real unity plus the Spirit that has served is so well in recent times. I am open to opposing views of what’s wrong or what’s happening that has us in this trough of insignificance again. It’s not the time to let things run under the carpet. Get to work Dees and all hands dirty from Board down. It’s what Great Clubs have to do now and again. Reinvent in the run. But first you have to see the signs around you. And publicly they are ready to burst out any time if we keep going like now I feel. Go Dees.
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Agree
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Kynan (Pup) Brown Debut announced by Alex Neal-Bullen on MFC website.
58er replied to DeeZone's topic in Melbourne Demons
His was close to another Schache debacle. Really Simon has just scraped in by his teeth in this one. Slow learner Simon imagine the ruckus if he didn’t use our sub AGAIN. Instant dismissal or resignation!! Gee his match day methods are archaic at times. Unbelievably negative and so disappointing just shows why he should have let Josh Shak Attack have his 15 mins in the sun. We might have won!!!!! -
Absolutely let Ollie get positive in the forward line and feel good about himself. One out even. Goody has got to throw the directions imaginatively and unless he does this there is no way we will make the Top8. We have got to be aggressive to win and improve % as much as possible.