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it's not always about selection, fwiw i was at geelong in r3, but also giving JVR the chance to go back for two weeks kick a couple bags of 3, clunk a few marks and get his confidence up then come back into the 1s and do teh same.

yep, same way swans listed indi kirk and freo listed jaren carr after their draft years

Yuck, looked awful against us in the VFL few weeks back. Pedlar was raised as gettable this week, similar position to Sharp in terms of where he is in the Crows list profile and age, do we give him two years? Given Billings, Spargo, Melksham, Henderson, Brown, Culley are all OOC (and surely we pay out Laurie and McAdam), we're surely looking to make significant personnel changes in the HFF areas. Pedlar has also moved through the middle, similar to Sparrow or ANB in that sense? (of that lot only Brown i'd keep on / maybe Culley).

exactly and then jsut pick johnson as a rookie

happy to be called out on this for being wrong or jumping too early, but i like to document my thoughts a year out and see how close i think to the actual list managers for EOS 25 Retire: Melksham, McDonald Delist: Hore, Fullarton, Billings, Howes, AMW, Sestan Laurie to move down to rookie list too with a 2026 contract McDonald could get another 1yr, Campbell could be 1 and done Feel like Howes, AMW and Woey are playing for one maybe two spots on the list, woey the most versatile Could also see a McAdam pay out like Hunter this year, its not beyond us to make these moves

i was harsh on him early and tbh i dont think its a bad pick after reading some balanced reviews. age aggression are massive ticks, i think the frustration was mainly at the lack of riak. ideally id take both of them on the list and would have asked fullarton, mcadam or hore to step off honestly maybe even melky given our next flag isn't coming enxt year, but i think the leadership, professionalism and drive he offers plus he still contributes on field justifies his spot. cam pederson is the comparison i'd make

said so in the johnson thread, but im truly gutted by this, its non-commital by the club and is going against the youthful processes we've been on for some time now. theres just so many ways this ends badly for us, watching mac flourish, ourselves getting destroyed by aliir playing against the swans in the past. i think his athletic potential once in the pro systems, he's gonna make us look so silly

honestly for mine, he'd wanna win a coleman next year. to actively select a 24yo vfl battler, yes he has some mongrel about him, over riak boggles me. Riak in the right system, skies the limit. he was putting genuine games together at the end of the season, taking intercepts and shutting down this drafts best key forwards, we should have given him 2 or 3 years, would have got so much more out of the pick than johnson. i pray im proven wrong but its hard to buy in on raw data

seems everyone is torn on him but reading your comment i immediately think of brady hough at the eagles, has sized up slightly but 50 games in granted in a struggling side i've not seen him really impact a game or show anything outside of just average footballer, but i remember thinking wow hes scrawny in his debut season. given hes 2 full seasons in without impacting the game immensely do we still go for lindsay knowing we will need to wait 3 years to judge or do we want immediate impact and see that more in allan travaglia or tauru if theyre there

Key Defenders: May, McDonald, Adams General Def: Lever, Salem, Bowey, McVee, Hore (A), Moniz-Wakefield (B), Woewodin, Howes Midfielders: Oliver, Viney, Petracca, Rivers, Windsor, Sparrow, Langdon, Billings, Sharp, Laurie, KBrown (A) Rucks: Gawn, Campbell, Fullarton, Verrell (A) General Fwd: Fritsch, Pickett, Spargo, Melksham, Chandler, Tholstrup, McAdam, Sestan (A) Key Forwards: van Rooyen, Petty, Turner, Jefferson, Kentfield (A) i always like to highlight the players out of contract coz i think its a good tell on where we will look to recruit as theres obvious uncertertainty abiut the current crop. it's no wonder we went hard for Houston. It's also why after the best available at 5, travaglia or allan is my preferred targets at 9. (or tauru if he gets there). Riak would add depth as as a key back and mentha as a small forward too. If we take 79 id expect it to be a ruck or KPD

in bold is the changes ive made, mostly you overvalue-ing players who have not had meaningful or decisive impact on a game either ever or in over 12 months. Tholstrup played 12 games, to call him a B grader is ambitious on current output, not to say he cant or wont get there in time. again some adjustments imo, fullarton clearly not a ruck given our determination to play anyone else but him there and howes, woey, chandler etc will never receive mid time, if they do we are in a world of trouble, theyre scratching afl standard / mfc standard in less demandinf or important positions as it is

i dont think it does coz i think AMW moves onto the A list wgucg means we have the max of 6. coz we had 7 last year when kentfield repalced brayshaw

howes has played 16 games placing him =37th overall for games played from his draft with miller bergman from north 55 games, two whole seasons of top level football behind the leaders of his class. i didnt say i dont think hes got some nice attributes, likewise sharp he was clearly a targetted recruit and a moneyball selection given what we believe his output will be compared to teh price of the trade but i am not overly optomistic either one will have any meaningful or consistent impact in the next 12-24 months at which point both will be 24yo's with 6 years in the league. look how quickly geelong make calls on their draftees. with many not being given longer than the initial 1 or 2 years. we almost always extend out to 4 for every draftee which limits our felxibility at this time of year

im on board SONS! (we see eye to eye too often) would go past hore immediately and howes, amw pretty quickly too imo coupled with salems inconsistent availability and boweys lack of progression i think this is good business. couple him up with langford for mine

i think given the likelihood 5 is a mid, for mine langford i would be taking a different type at 9. so travaglia is my target and maybe a bid on lombard as they fit needs and are high quality players, targetting needs with late picks is good however theyre also less likely to succeed so taking a high end needs based player can fix a hole for a decade. hence travaglia. i believe he'd be playing regularly by the byes and would move ahead of quite a few similar types almost immediately. given the loss of ANB is somewhat covered by sharp whilst lombard bid will almost certainly be matched, if they surprised everyone and let him through i wouldnt be upset either. if we go tauru at 5 (i predict the roos at 6 for him) then bo allen would make sense at 9

its langford for mine, and travaglia or tauru (if north dont take him at 6) at 9. trainor im unfamiliar with but he or armstrong would be my go at 9 if Travaglia is gone. but given we've taken jeffo and kentfield in recent drafts i dont think another key forward would be the priority. im fully anticipating the roos tigers pick 2 trade to happen as roos dont need inside mids which is the top 5.

Petty should be tattoo'd into the full back goalswquare for the next decade. he could be an all australian if they actually let him flourish, even throwing turner behind the ball when may or mcdonald got subbed out of games ahead of petty was really poor to see imo from the coaching group Cloggers: Laurie, Billings, McAdam, Sharp, Howes, Fullarton, and chandler is probably lucky we dont have another top class small forward

they seriously need to put a ban on players being shuffled back, its a pisstake that darragh joyce after 17 years as a fringe player can be moved around in this way. the only way i'd allow it would be after the mandatory ND 2yr contract and zero games, they allow u to drop back, ala the freo ruckman knobel. as that is a genuine rookie who is developing slowly. but blokes like joyce are senior players regardless of his irishness. invite him to train on sure but dont be allowed to slide him back down you can go past 6 A rookies during the mid season draft when senior players are moved to inactive list. but at the beginning of each season this has to be reset to a max of 6, hence why we had 7 when kentfield replaced brayshaw

hopefully its petty returns down back, meaning jeffo might get a look in or we go with just jvr and turner and then fritsch melky mcadam combo for the third tall, like the hawks this year, more dynamic less predictable going inside, of course this is reliant on being able to hit players on leads and we know how we go at that...

if we're going for a delisted tall, u want reliability. so membrey is front of the queue. down back id look at ethan phillips or harry arnold but probably unnecessary as im expecting petty goes back next year

20 would fit nicely on my back, pretty happy in the 42 tho, havent moved in the last 3 years so not particularly excited to move now. List is locked in 36 snr players 32 plus mcvee and amw picks 5&9 and 6 rookies (1 to fill) and 0 catb's (2 to fill)

this is the current lay of the list (u can see where i adjsuted from numerical order to adding players as they get added. believe mcvee and AMW* need to be upgraded at the 3yr mark *AMW can be delisted? or moved to the A list as he's under the 10 game threshold. so two of the grey tiles would be filled therefore blocking out a 6th and 7th 'A' rookie# #jsmith off the list would also make way for mcvee, tomlinson for amw and then we'd be in the position of having the two ND picks and 2 'A' spots which could be filled during the draft, or by yzes boy (unlikely) or by SSP or left for MSD

10 -pick 5 12 - pick 9 19 - sharp 30 -campbell i think only koltyn would move up, so maybe kolt into 10

where did u hear this?

consider cal twomey and the tradies podcast dms flooded until i hear a good explanation, i also cannot find any reason why he would be ineligible