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6 hours later... I probably should have put a little ? or a ? at the end of my previous post of a 19yo. I thought he did some lovely long kicks into the F50 a few times... so I also just checked the stats on the AFLPRO and he is going at 60/40 handball to kick ratio, and the main point with that, is that I dispute that neither he or his team mates have confidence in his kicking. I think @Lampers nails it with his quote around the flexibility the he provides for our team and also the difficulty as a match up for opponents.

If you think this is THE important metric - it is helpful to think about the advantage he give to the team beyond his goal scoring or current lack thereof. He is 19 for gods sake.... 19, he is 19, nineteen years old. So, anyway he is 19, 19 years old and he is helping the team you love win games and are currently sitting 5-0, due to the way that he plays the game, spreads the opposition backmen, and also by the way he doesnt score goals. Did I mention we are 5-0 with a range of goal scorers who are coming in to play due to how he plays the game. If I think about it really hard - he is 19 and whilst he is 19 - he could have scored a minimum 5 more goals more, than he currently has, due to the fact that he is 19, and the fact that TMAC kicked a goal that was his last week in the goal square, and that Petracca kicked a goal the week prior (the first for the game) due to a sublime palm down in to his path.. and 3 more for good measure. So going on that rate - as a 19 year old - he would have 6 goals in 5 games... 6 goals for a 19 year old - so by the end of round 20 he would have 24. Does that change how he is seen? @leave it to deever - you're been far to harsh mate on a 19 yo

Geography lesson :) - it's not the wheatbelt!

The Sad emoticon, does not convey the sadness in a way I prefer... ?

100% correct. The mere fact he kicked 7 as an output, is not indicative of him being ready from a fitness perspective. Granted though, it's pretty fantastic result and feels good, but its about km's in the body.

Reluctantly put it forward as it is Sports Bet... But a fair likeness

He is in a rich vein of form re: one on one's. Normally a fantastic kick - shanked a few on a the weekend. Is quite combative, considering what looks to be a slight frame. Anyway - I put him as floating between an A and a B - so B+ with his worst being a B and his best being A+ from contest to contest. And some more indepth info https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Discover/CD_I296359/Salem-Christian I also think it's helpful to think about the language of 'average' as being on a bell curve - some maths guru will correct me - but I assume it is about the mean, as opposed to the median or mode.

Anyone know what Guy Rigoni is up to these days? Does he moonlight on here??

Assuming that at some stage Gawn, Jackson and Brown are all in the team, as well as TMac, May, Lever and Tomlinson as our talls, is pretty damned impressive wall to try and get past. between the 80m-50m zone from kick outs.

I guess by going into the pocket, if it gets a ball up or spoilt out of bounds, then the game plan is either for our mids to win it and distribute it out, or if the opponents get it and dump kick it, there may be a greater chance of finding someone on the re-entry. As well as backing our players to kick it from the pocket. I guess its better to have it in our end, then flying back the other way.

Just read your post... and then went and watched a bit of lat nights AFL360. Leigh Montana - discussed that we had above 22 total intercepted marks per game... with the below caption. Now either Leigh is wrong, or I highly suspect the work experience kids inadvertently clicked the 'shift number 5' button as opposed to..I dunno, shift and number 1. We're intercepting every 4th or 5th kick? Perhaps this is true?? The analysis of the data is not only 'lite' it's often incorrect, or at a minimum speaking of something else altogether.

I do a double take every time...every time.

‘Cause this a page of pedantry - can you elucidate where the irony is?

Sometimes you'd think these things are scripted for the hysterical media write ups... Postscript headline "Brown goes south and sticks it up North."

Cue pessimistic Demonlanders writing on 'Is Goodwin the right guy' thread, that if we still make finals, we're just making up numbers, thus it's and indictment on the board for agreeing to a contract extension for Goodwin.

I'm no medical expert either - but I think rephrasing of the injury report would be useful. 'May has overcome all concussion concerns, but will need to complete Wednesday’s main training to prove his fitness after also fracturing his right eye socket against Geelong.' to 'May has overcome all concussion concerns, but will need to complete Wednesday’s main training to prove his fitness after also fracturing his right eye socket when Tom Hawkins threw back an 'errant' elbow that connected flush with the innocent parties eye socket and caused significant trauma.'

From a monitoring/rehab perspective, IF the club and the players (Brown and Weid) feel safe to come back from their respective injuries to play at what ever relevant % game time they can - then I feel they should both come in. Personally I don't subscribe to this particular match being a measure of our side, or where we are at, or where our system is at. I feel it is moreso reflective of those components for Richmonds however... In the makeup of our team there will be two situations either a) a forward line devoid of our best three targets (Weiderman, Fritsch and Brown) or b) a forward line devoid of game time together of our best three targets (Weiderman, Fritsch and Brown) - as we all know - they have never played together. (not that the media would mention that). Hence it is not a marker of the aforementioned. Where overcoming rehab is concerned, it is now about getting as many games together as possible to build cohesion and trust in the forward half of the ground.

Just a rreeeaaalll friendly shot across the bow there @demonstone eh ?

Are we the ‘stingiest’ team (tm)? How good a word is ‘stingy’, it always reads as stingy even though you mean stingy.

Ah mate, I keep getting typos and people keep correcting me - I wonder if I’m even cut out for data entry ??‍♂️

Thank goodness for the fourth...

It makes you wonder what the metrics are that certain players are measured in. as well as how many games before someone can find form (or be carried)... based on past evidence of that player being able to perform. Personally I get annoyed at the reductionist terminology around 'he must have photos' or 'Goodwin's [insert any coach] best mate' There are clear standards that must be met for sure - I reckon Demonlanders could pull together and get a rough consensus on the worthy stats for each part of the ground. *perhaps we could get 23 folk each week to follow one player and look at all the 1%'s that they do (all the other metrics are readily available).

What's the difference between arrogance and backing yourself @RigidMiddleDigit?

I’d say we’re fair dinkum, with an undercurrent of crumbling ??‍♂️