Bay Riffin

not really. Goodwin said a few weeks ago 'he is in the picture' at the selection meeting and intimated hes looking likely for a debut soon just dont know when exactly. having a poor game doesnt help his cause though. Theyd also know from training how he's handling things. looks like next year now but they were happy with his last 10 weeks or so of really good development.

we are too nice like the grundy trade. Nibbler is in career best form. without our key midfielders hes been excellent stepping up. the most coachable player on our list like Brayshaw and we lost both. We need fair conmpensation for Nibbler he'll play 100 games and some second round pick odds on will not.

this is so ridiculous I assume youre taking the mickey. . Coterie groups disgruntled. ? What were peoples expectations, we recently had the most under 22s in the AFL playing. half the side. biggest fall from Grace this century.? not even this season. Pies were premiers last year.

Windsor looks a gun so hes nailed the first most important pick. the rest we will know in a few years.

out of interest what are your concerns? I think his strengths are: good vision decent disposal, plenty of mongrel Weknesses: no great elite talents athletically, ok but not great pace and not overly big at AFL level. . at present a bit off the pace at AFL level which is nothing to be worried about long term.

Bevo dropped immediately after the premiership and the dogs have been very up and down since. Goodwin has had top 4 finishes and we've been much more consistent. I think he's better than Bevo.

Goodwin recently said Jefferson is definitely in the mix now. Thing is for him to just keep improving. His debut will come.

we had the most under 22s in the league. It you watch the game it was the younger legs that tired in the last half and we started getting opened right up. Just too many kids compared to the lions. Overall it isnt as bad as some on here think. the old Dees wouldnt have found something especialy with so many young players.

can people stop this key forward narrative like every year we have had the chance to pick a Cameron, Curnow on the market. They are like hens teeth and people are up in arms we can't get one.

Well Hunter was in the 23 permanently prior to injury so thats an interesting call. Jefferson is still an uknown although he's just not getting enought of it. Nobody was talking up Howes even right up to round 1. Nobody. And he's showing that potential now.

interesting. who were the players / incidents ?

or..."You recon all the balls are the same pressure today?" oh you havent touched it 35 times like me. sorry"

he is a good kick normally. Give him some time. Go watch Pettys first game at AFL level, worst kicking you'll ever see. Terrible game too. Let them get some experience and confidence.

well without a high pick what would we accept ?

I think we have a beauty here. great game sense, not overawed, has genuine wheels and knows how to use it (e.g his goal from 50). and probs just as important looks a great decision maker. I thought his coolness under pressure which the commentators pointed out in the last quarter makes him special. Didn't blaze away and made good decisions under enormous pressure. He looks a beauty. The nomination will come. don't worry.

yes the Lewis crowd pump up was embarrasing, he acted like he'd put them in front. they were about 5 goals down.

what did we think of the backline without Lever and May second half ? I thought they were superb with last minute spoils by Howes, Tmac then Trac saving 3 shots on goal. Our defence is really humming so good signs.

he was excellent. Dirty Chol tried to kick him in the head like the May push kick, and he competed well. He gave Max and excellent chop out today.

he said the doctors don't think its too serious. they do pretty emphatic tests for ACL these days.

except for the last 6 years against them.

thats my point, its a rort. His dad is paid by an AFL team so that why his son was up there. he would be living and breathing AFL footy as a kid. the essense of Academy selection is spending the time and $ invested into youngsters who would otherwise be lost to other codes. And even then its ultimately AFL funded. same goes for Kalani. It's a bigger rort then the COLA salary cap which was rightfully taken away (only because of the Buddy trade mind you - whatever hits the papaers matters.

Seriously? They have sooo much talent even from a host of first rounders this year, the under 16 national team is peppered with elite talent tied to the gold coast, so they will get yet another massive draft haul in a year or two. seriously how much can they get? It isn't right. I remember Blakey had two teams he could go (North and Lions?) as F/S to but the swans somehow end up with an elite player. My goodness.

yes his highlights were great, the run down tackle saving a probable goal, a couple very handy dish offs in close. 16 possies in 3/4 and used it well. Windsor, Howes and Billings certain to stay in.

Senior coach also put us into a position to win. We could not execute our goal kicking.

Hunt had his chances there, his disposal was sub par. But yes boy does he have pace. When he took a defensive role he was more effective using his pace to stop the faster forwards, more than create play.