Bay Riffin

Well said. Geez there appears little latitude for players these days. Harmes is a great example. not the greatest kick but has played with ferocity and dare and to me appears to keep improving and most importantly gets the ball. Most on here would never have kept with Nathan Jones who 'lacked awareness', was a poor kick and got caught all the time. similair to hawks mates who kept saying Lewis was a turnover merchant (and was). Thank god they are not coaches and realise you can actually learn this game and iron out weaknesses.

Roos didn't rate Petracca best in the draft. It was Heeney we bidded for with pick 2.

GWS strike rate at the draft under SOS was poor. You would hate to think if they were even above average at drafting. Their concessions and ongoing academy picks are stunningly excessive.

absolutely. Having both Hibberd and Salem in our backline would make a significant change, more deadly by foot and both hard at the contest.

Roos has done the opposite, being very bold this year with the youngest side most weeks. We've had 4 picks in the top 10 last two years. we could have traded in more senior players for those picks if we chose a faster route (Richmond style).

I think Vandenburg is the hardest of the lot, the on'es that hurt the opposition the most.

Heppell is a lot bigger than Toumpas.

I don't quite get your thinking here. I would feel more like that is was Essendon who have picked Parish who looks very good but so slight and there only midfield in their first 4 picks in the top 30. Oliver has played well against men and shone at junior lever, big bodied and looks likely to play in his first year. Weideman I think was selected on gut feel as a very good footballer who has been injured. but who knows he may get to have a full season for Casey. and as a tall with Dawes and Hogan ahead of him, is that such a bad thing? We are picking bigger bodies so we don't have to wait for years.

based on these highlights, I have made the decision to re-draft Jordie McKenzie at pick 3. smooth as silk on the run and very good goal sneak. highlights don't lie people.

Sam Mitchell is a bull. bit different.

He reminds me of max gawn, without the beard.

not beating St Kilda since 2006 is the most embarrassing. would love to own Hawthorn sometime in my lifetime. they've owned us it seems forever since the 80s.

Not quite sure it will work again. I think they looked at the high picks last year and saw some light bodied midfielders, exactly the type we picked in the past and failed. If they can see a Judd or ablett who is 18 then why not take him. Also it's a year later and guys like toumpas will be in year 3 like Tyson with Salem Kennedy year 2 etc so they've spent some time in the nursery as roos puts it. The Tyson trades also may not be there this time. They are pretty rare.