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I like him in the ruck, a real competitor, and some pace around the stoppages. But as a key forward he doesnt have enough tricks. decent depth I guess.

nothing to me suggests that. he had a full preseason, played a full season and was ordinary. lucky to get top 10 in the B and F.

AMW.

Oliver was fantastic up to 2023 but his 7th place in this years B and F flattered his output I thought. and thats after a full preseason. That has to be a key reason most clubs had no interest in him.

Totally agree. Immature attitude to a club that gave him everything, including one of the biggest contracts in AFL history.

Jeff his dad really rates his work below the knees. He looks a natural in those highlights. just need experience and a bigger body.

thats a very strong recommendation by Taylor. Given the wraps how did he last till pick 30 ? Pickett and Dovaston were getting some write ups but why not this guy ? intriguing.

No rookie him. its a lot different on the books and we have 3 senior, mature ruckmen ahead of him on the list. let him develop, no pressure, then in 2 years we will have a much stronger idea whether he will make it.

Jason Taylor might have a different view there. especially as we could have taken Dovaston instead of Pickett.

disagree. he recovered from injury 2024 then had a full preseason, then played all year without major injuries, and was bog average in a lot of games. i thought his 7th placing in the B&F flattered him. you cannot convince me he prepared off field like he did prior to 2023. noone was going to pay anything decent to take him.

gifted GC for Petracca ? you don t think they needed something back for 3 first rounders ? please.

thats a good point. We would be well under our cap presently, so for next year it would be in our interests to rewrite our part of the contract to front load the payments to Oliver. which he would agree to. It may not be allowed though.

paying half his salary hurts.

exactly. its as god a deal as we will get from any club. but we also cant keep him now. i believe his influence is too strong and we need to start afresh. He's no longer the A Grader we had so pick 7,8 would be a great result.

mixed bag this year. at times really good, but ive not seen him get torched by big forwards that often before. He's certainly lost a yard. It's time to start blooding Adams, and if Jefferson can develop push Petty back into the backline as well.

Neales development has been outstanding. King has obviously seen a development gap for our key forwards.

well its already thursday and Oliver hasnt declared what he wants to do yet. besides behaving like a child publicly and saying he doesnt like us.

totally agree. the odds of picking up a 100-200 gamer are very small. he's worth a pick in the teens in a poor draft, and we didnt demand it. pathetic.

pick 12 ends up as pick 16ish in a poor draft. its certainly not overs. you'd be hoping you can pick up a Judd.

did you watch him all year ? he's a shadow of the player he was. his last 2 years are hardly a $700k player.

Why is JVR deemed a fail?. Hes well ahead of Mihocek at the same age and i expect him to be just as good or better. he lost confidence this year but thats ok, most players go through that. Weideman was a bust and yes Jefferson to me doesnt look like making it.

so Larkey and Treacy were 'late in the draft'. 2 out of 20. a bit of needle in a hay stack strategy looking at the data.

I agree we caved in. the tail was wagging the dog. noone predicted the drop off by both players, but Oliver especially was a poor kick even at his best and can only play midfield, so it was too big a contract.

ummm what ? looking at the coleman medal top 10 this year im trying to find one that came 'late in the draft'. even top 20.

well that was a waste of a conversation