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I think the effort was thr just not the intensity required to continued pushing @ afl level.... We forget the same team held them to just 2 goals in the 1st 1/2.....

Share your pain man... But it's not were you start it's were you finish.... I'd say our club will be better set structures both on & off the field in yrs to come ... Bulldogs are about survival Hang in thr.... I'm just as frustrated also ...

Listening to Roos presser... Why was there a lack of effort... Did players think that it would just happen?

As frustrating as it is ... the gap between our best & worst is evident ... we shouldn't all go into meltdown ...Roos did warn all of us that we are going to lose games ...

After the failed merger our club never laid out a long term plan instead it engaged with an individual as a white knight who would rescue the club by donating his money....A continued band aid approach to only solve short term issues.... Hawks developed strong off field finances & galvinsed their supporter base.... Result 3 flags, 70k membership & huge annual profits

Can't look back .. But how many young kids did we lose from 08-2013??? I'm a18yr member but my 17yo son lost interest.... He was 8yo when we last played finals in 06

The 1996 membership tally comparison is even starker. The year Hawthorn and Melbourne infamously came close to merging, the Hawks had a membership of 12,92 This is were their future members will come from.. The Hawks led the competition last year for junior members it had 19,800 and, with 18,233 already this year, expects to surpass that tally.

10 goal lost, what has changed for Clark?

Give it up.... Support the players we have not the 1s we should have could have blah blah About time this club actually created an environment were players are developed to high afl standards... I'm sure if you looked @ clubs like haw, Geel, swans the difference would be night & day!

Your kidding aren't you! A complete change both on & of the field Around 18 players turned over( correct me if the number is wrong) Stopped the humiliating & embarrassing 100 pt loses Build a strong foundation of new culture & development All this in the 1st yr of coaching Yeah let's starting blaming the coach!

Well said ...FFS as Roos said these kids will not be the saviour of the footy club....

Honestly.... We forget how far back we r coming from We wr a complete basket case in 2013 both on & off the field... Our development & culture were deplorable... Around 18 players turned over... Roos & PJ are building the foundations & setting the right culture ... Whilst we have all suffered we need to be patient....

English Football consists on a number of tiers & allows promotion & relegation which in itself creates interest in who will drop & who will be promoted... The Champioship league is below the EPL which is very strong & with promotion comes millions of pounds to the club, increased sponsorship etc They also play each other twice & a real home & away grounds! Whilst only maybe 4-5 some clubs will win the premiership, lower teams still win the the FA cup or Carling cup along with the opportunity to finish mid table & play in the Europa cup... The AfL I'm sorry is becoming less even, with super clubs emerging getting prime time exposure on TV to meet TV rights demand... Clubs don't play each other twice & no real home & away comp Bigger clubs taking advantage of free agency is seeing them top up with Kpp players from struggling clubs eg Frawley etc So we're is this so called equalisation the AFL are talking about?

Club needs to provide free counselling for pain & suffering... Goes to show how far off the mark the club has been in the last 50yrs in getting things right across all departments... No reflection on current regime, but recognition of milestone members would not be the highest thing on their list....

Agree gambling addiction destroys life's.... The smaller clubs like ours need stadium deals were they can make money not write out cheques due to ridiculous high costs Eg Etihad stadium a disaster for most clubs..... When you look @ Geelong you would want to play 11 home games there & make 500k a game... Oops I forget this is not a home & away comp it's a TV fixture ratings competition!

I'm a suffering supporter & it's been tough from 07-13... But my heart beats true!!!!!

The below represents poor drafting, development & culture.... Whilst now it's in the past... The club should never allow this debacle to ever happen again.... Free agency aside on some of the players departure it reflects the club inability to attract & keep players! Scully (pick 1), Morton (4), Gysberts (11), Frawley (12), Cook (12), Blease (17), Tapscott (18), Strauss (19), Maric (21) McLean (5) Sylvia(3) Trengove may never play again, Moloney & Rivers... All gone....

A sad end to an era of poor drafting & development 08-2012 of so many early picks!

I don't know which club some of you guys were following pre 2014... It was an absolute train wreck of poor decisions made by the wrong people, crap culture & development... Players wanting to jump ship... Coaches made scapegoats.... All roads point to Schwab & Connolly!

How many careers has the MFC stalled or derailed in the last decade????

It amazes me that some of our supporters live in denial of what occurred pre Roos era! Players walked out of the club because it stunk! Why would Brock donate 10k then want to leave???

People are quick to have a crack & Brock..... Brock highlighted the abysmal culture & poor development which occurred during our disastrous era from 07-13..... Maybe your lack of culture & poor development has seen so many early picks of our club delisted...... We seem to forget that Connolly & Schawb screwed our club with the tanking issues! Whilst Brock may not have been the best player around, I'm sure our club didn't help his cause!

Too many people here wanting to find the next champion in the draft..... it's a lottery & it's only part of the process.. Great players are developed in a good club with good culture & coaches... Our record over the last decade is terrible in developing players! Frost can be developed to be a kpp backman & has a couple of years in the system, the alternative is go to the draft & hope & wait 2-3 yrs...

Amazing posts...club is damn if they do & damn if they don't! Club picked up a defender with games under his belt who can be further developed to be a 10 yr Kpp to replace frawley! The same posters would be sinking their boots into the club if we let him go & picked up a spud @ 23... Stop looking @ the glass 1/2 empty!

No different to free agency... Player still gets to another club.... We have won less than 12 games in 3 yrs ....