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FFS... Let it go... Get the best picks/player swap & move on! Previous mfc mgt are to blame for creating a bad environment.... Frawley wants out fine... He's only 1 player.... Didn't stop hawks winning a flag without buddy!! We need to build a new list with fresh/renewed players, new culture...

Early picks is one thing it's what culture & the ability to develop which our club has done very poorly..... When you look @ Geelong. & the Swans they had not many early picks but great culture & the ability to develop quality players... Until our club gets to that stage most players will struggle to develop...

To ensure an even competition the swans are not allowed to finish below 8th & all free agents can fit into their salary cap!

I live & hope & think the club has the right people in place both on/off the field.... However the Hawks 18 yrs ago did not compete with free agency & less teams, capitalised on good drafting & development....

Amazing maybe I'm wrong. Bottom teams need to give away the farm & pay way overs for a gun & yet the premiers may get Frawley for reasonable $$$ & don't give up any early picks.... The system yet again seems to be working in favour for the clubs @ the top????

Absolutely this goes for all teams... I think free agency will damage the game & give top clubs a powerful tool to get talent & maintain their success ... Do we all want to see the same teams compete for a flag each year? Remember there are18 teams in this so called competition ... Someone has to finish last.... So the system the afl implement to save the competition in the mid 80s appears to be coming apart ? You either have an equalisation system or you don't

Luck?? More than that... Yes all clubs have early picks which fail... But good clubs get the good ones right! Along with good culture & development...I'm frustrated to see posters say they wr lucky getting stars drafted etc ... You dont win 3 flags in 7 yrs inc back to back thru luck!

I don't know which club you were following ... But prior yo this year it was absolute diabolical on all fronts..

Absolutely...I wonder how well Buddy, roughed, rioli would have developed @ the dees.. Early picks are only 1 part of it...Difference between the two clubs is so far apart....at least during the years prior to PJ & Roos...

I think more than just that... Combination of good drafting & development... Inc strong culture, a united club which has built a premiership club not just a team... They have set strong foundations since the failed merger... We have gone around in circles & took a ban aid approach...What occurred prior to PJ & Rooss was diabolical & not a great environment for young players to thrive in...

Unfortunately the afl have created this situation .....Clubs @ the bottom will get raided of any good talent when they become free agents.. Clubs need to take responsibility of ensuring their environments are professional & conducive for players to want to stay... As we know the MFC have done a very poor job from 08-2013.... We also need to understand the lack of success will play in the decision making to Frawley & others seeking playing finals. What the system was set up for to equalise talent thru the draft will also be compromised when clubs who have just won a flag are able to strengthen their list with free agency eg Frawley to Hawks & Swans with Tippett & Buddy... When it was designed to push out talent due to increase pressure on salary cap demands... I might be wrong but this may create power teams who may continue to dominate????

Your kidding... A pick 12 for a gun.. Don't hold your breath... The chances coming him coming to us are zero.... He wants to win a flag!

They are a premiership club! Clubs win flags not just teams! Lets hope PJ & co are on the same pathway!

Can't change the past but what occurred in our four club from 08-13 was diabolical & set us back 10yrs!

Makes you feel frustrated... Since the fail merger... Hawks 3 flags , 4 gf....vs mfc 1 gf in2000 As a club we went around in circles & butchered our early draft picks & created crap culture!

Doesn't seem right... My guess is there are more underlying issues... Maybe Roos has told him best if he leaves the club.... Let's face it long term if the club can secure another player eg Harry O or a draft pick rather than risking MC bombing out in 6mths & getting nothing....Roos & Co are wanting to set a new culture don't need any passengers... No disrespect to MC illness...

Exactly.... Afl created a situation that the top clubs will continue to raid the bottom clubs...... Which questions the whole evenness of the competition which the draft was originally designed for??? Responsibility has to fall on the MFC on the train wreck environment since 08... Poor drafting...poor development.....poor coaches ... Players do want to chase success... If we landed a Dangerfield would we be bagging the afl????

The unevenness in this afl comp is so glaring from the fixture to the stadium deals, teams who play on prime TV etc.... Understand that the support we got from the Afl to restructure the club was needed & PJ & co have done a great job & it's a far different club But.......Maybe as a footy club we need to stop relying on handouts... Early picks... As proven last night with a rookie pick 30 who was overlooked in 3 drafts that if a club culture & development is right players will excel & win a brownlow! Let's find the right players with the right character,attitude & get the best coaches to develop top players... bomber Thompson said it was great to see his team win those flags as all the players developed together.....

Will want 1.5mill a year after tonight!

Goes to show if your development & culture is right ..... Overlooked by 4 national drafts... Pick 31 rookie in 06 draft! Our previous recruiters/ development coaches should never work again in an afl club... All those early picks.....

Something different this year ... A midfielder wins!

Is there any real probability of Dangerfield leaving the crows?

We got plenty of picks for our failures since 07 & yet thru picking the wrong kids & crappy culture/development see us rebuilding again!