I placed a small wager with a friend at work this week about the Demons performance this season; only a tenner. It is more about the principle than the financial reward. He was adamant that the Dees wouldn't win more that 5 games. I took the bet very willingly. Are my expectations for season 2010 ill founded?

Would you have taken that bet?

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6 wins:

@ Richmond (rd 4)

@ North Melb (rd 6)

V West Coast (rd 8)

V Essendon (rd 15)

V Sydney (rd 17)

V North Melb (rd 22)

For some reason I don't share a lot of people's optimisim of 8+ wins. Maybe I've been scarred by our 2007-2009 performances. Maybe the majority of our potential has played less than 40 games and that we have still have too many NQR's on the senior list (Bartram, Johnson, Bell, Dunn, Miller, Cheney) that will play most weeks. Maybe our fwd line doesn't have enough bite to kick winning scores every second week.

2010 is still a project year IMO by virtue of having a list that is stockpiled with recent draft picks, and as long as we don't win another spoon (6 wins should be enough) I'll be cool with the above results.

BBP that sounds pretty good to me, and I know I am being optimistic with suggestions of 8 wins. I think the big difference between this year and last year is that I think there is more drive to win some of those games later in the year. Particularly if we win one or two and get a bit of momentum the players could suddenly find themselves winning a couple more.

Similarly it is completely possible that we will only win 5-6 and lose 8 more by less than 10 points and just not be able to finish off those victories. I won't be too dissapointed if that happens, but it will be a frustrating year.

8 wins will exceed all my expectaations, I think 6 wins would be a pass only if we are ultra competative in most of our games

I placed a small wager with a friend at work this week about the Demons performance this season; only a tenner. It is more about the principle than the financial reward. He was adamant that the Dees wouldn't win more that 5 games. I took the bet very willingly. Are my expectations for season 2010 ill founded?

Would you have taken that bet?

Edit: grammar

Pauly, I would have taken bet, just like you. Rest easy. Your expectations IMO are not ill founded for season 2010, which I believe will bring plenty of excitement. Although, I don't expect finals excitement........but I will take it if it comes to fruition. :D

BBP that sounds pretty good to me, and I know I am being optimistic with suggestions of 8 wins. I think the big difference between this year and last year is that I think there is more drive to win some of those games later in the year. Particularly if we win one or two and get a bit of momentum the players could suddenly find themselves winning a couple more.

Similarly it is completely possible that we will only win 5-6 and lose 8 more by less than 10 points and just not be able to finish off those victories. I won't be too disappointed if that happens, but it will be a frustrating year.

Definately will be frustrating. I think we will win 5-7.

In the cold light of January it is a little difficult to see where 8+ wins will come from.

Good chance of victory (7):

Richmond (@ MCG x 2)

North Melbourne (@ Etihad + MCG)

West Coast (@ MCG)

Port Adelaide (@ TIO)

Sydney Swans (@ MCG)

Unexpected but possible (6):

Collingwood (@ MCG x 2)

Port Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Carlton (@ MCG)

Essendon (@ MCG)

Fremantle (@ Subiaco)

Major upset required (5):

Hawthorn (@ MCG x 2)

Adelaide (@ MCG)

Brisbane Lions (@ MCG)

Western Bulldogs (@ MCG)

No chance (4):

Geelong (@ Skilled)

Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Brisbane Lions (@ Gabba)

St Kilda (@ Etihad)

In the cold light of January it is a little difficult to see where 8+ wins will come from.

So true re: January. Over the next few weeks the FD will no doubt ramp up the Dees preparation by introducing intra club games and intense training sessions in the lead up. Hopefully the all the boys come through unscathed.

If our list can get to mid March injury free and impress in the NAB Cup, personally (whilst it is still possible in winning less than 7), I find it hard to see the Dees winning less than 7 games.

There is no question - and we've all seen it before - that "if" momentum occurs on the back of some good form from some key players (arguably stars)....we'll be in for a ride in 2010.

Definately will be frustrating. I think we will win 5-7.

In the cold light of January it is a little difficult to see where 8+ wins will come from.

Good chance of victory (7):

Richmond (@ MCG x 2)

North Melbourne (@ Etihad + MCG)

West Coast (@ MCG)

Port Adelaide (@ TIO)

Sydney Swans (@ MCG)

Unexpected but possible (6):

Collingwood (@ MCG x 2)

Port Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Carlton (@ MCG)

Essendon (@ MCG)

Fremantle (@ Subiaco)

Major upset required (5):

Hawthorn (@ MCG x 2)

Adelaide (@ MCG)

Brisbane Lions (@ MCG)

Western Bulldogs (@ MCG)

No chance (4):

Geelong (@ Skilled)

Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Brisbane Lions (@ Gabba)

St Kilda (@ Etihad)

Fair effort that.

My hope for the dees of 2010 that we can add 1 or 2 to the major upset/no chance column. This will display that we have the personnel and plans to match it with good sides when things click and give us an insight into the future.

They are the types of wins to really build upon and give the young players and footy department a bit of confidence. They also help rebuild our credibility in the footy world.

I would mark it down that we will win a couple that we are not expected to, but will probably lose one or two we shouldn't. On that basis I reckon 6-7 wins is realistic.

I placed a small wager with a friend at work this week about the Demons performance this season; only a tenner. It is more about the principle than the financial reward. He was adamant that the Dees wouldn't win more that 5 games. I took the bet very willingly. Are my expectations for season 2010 ill founded?

Would you have taken that bet?

Edit: grammar

I would've bet more. Hows this for stupid, I bet my mate (Collingw**d supporter) $200 we would finish higher than them in 2010. Lets say don't place bets after a day of drinking in the sun.

I have already paid up.

I would've bet more. Hows this for stupid, I bet my mate (Collingw**d supporter) $200 we would finish higher than them in 2010. Lets say don't place bets after a day of drinking in the sun.

I have already paid up.

hahah my nate made a similar mistake

you should have just put the $200 on us to make finals which would net you a cool $1100 profit

but that's not as satisfying as taking 200 from a magpie

I'll give it a slightly more optimistic alteration

say

6 out of 9 for group A

2 out of 6 for group b

1 major upset

that's your 9 wins

Good chance of victory (9):

Richmond (@ MCG x 2)

North Melbourne (@ Etihad + MCG)

West Coast (@ MCG)

Port Adelaide (@ TIO)

Sydney Swans (@ MCG)

Collingwood (@ MCG - QB) simply because we have a history of stepping up on the big stage and the pies are perpetually overrated

Essendon (@ MCG) overrated

Unexpected but possible (6):

Collingwood (@ MCG )

Port Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Carlton (@ MCG)

Fremantle (@ Subiaco)

Adelaide (@ MCG)

Brisbane Lions (@ MCG)

Major upset required (3):

Hawthorn (@ MCG x 2)

Western Bulldogs (@ MCG)

No chance (4):

Geelong (@ Skilled)

Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Brisbane Lions (@ Gabba)

St Kilda (@ Etihad)

I would've bet more. Hows this for stupid, I bet my mate (Collingw**d supporter) $200 we would finish higher than them in 2010. Lets say don't place bets after a day of drinking in the sun.

I have already paid up.

I have a bet with a mate every year, $500 whoever finishes highest us or Geelong. This year will be the 7th and I've only won it once. He rags on me constantly but I remind him there's no backing out when the tables turn. I think I've got a long run of wins coming up starting next year or the year after

I have a bet with a mate every year, $500 whoever finishes highest us or Geelong. This year will be the 7th and I've only won it once. He rags on me constantly but I remind him there's no backing out when the tables turn. I think I've got a long run of wins coming up starting next year or the year after

You just hope we have period of sustained success and you might break even, But the bagging rights will be priceless !!!

I placed a small wager with a friend at work this week about the Demons performance this season; only a tenner. It is more about the principle than the financial reward. He was adamant that the Dees wouldn't win more that 5 games. I took the bet very willingly. Are my expectations for season 2010 ill founded?

Would you have taken that bet?

Yep. I reckon 7-10 myself. We pushed some good teams last year and we just need to keep it going all game rather than halves to have an acceptable season.

As an aside I have $100 on us finishing with more wins than Richmond so any more than 3 should get me some money.

While we are talking cash.. I've taken Colin @$126 to make top 5 in the Brownlow and also took Melb to win NAB Cup @ $151

I placed a small wager with a friend at work this week about the Demons performance this season; only a tenner. It is more about the principle than the financial reward. He was adamant that the Dees wouldn't win more that 5 games. I took the bet very willingly. Are my expectations for season 2010 ill founded?

Would you have taken that bet?

Edit: grammar

Great bet. Should have gone for more there. I can't see us winning the same or worse than last year. I'm thinking, with another rough run of injuries, that 6 is par. If we get lucky, we could win 8, maybe even up to 10/11 if other clubs fall over.

8 - 12, probably 8

Cheers for the replies chaps. As far as bell-shaped curves go (no pun intended Daniel) it's a good representation. Hopefully an accurate one. Perhaps I tainted the responses by giving my opinion upfront.

Won 4 games last year when we weren't supposed to be trying. First 2 picks in the draft. Another year into Jurrah and Watts. I'd be hoping for 8 wins.

IMHO Early confidence will be the window to our 2010 season we need our "key players" to be injury free and competitive.

My "key players" would be Garland, Jamar, Green, Jurah, Sylvia & Moloney

IMHO -

Garland is our best backman and adds much needed flexibility - I'm praying he can hold down CHB.

Jamar is essential if nothing more than making us at the very least competitive at center bounces.

Green & Jurah - our goal kicking power approx 50 goals each rotating thru mobile FF - "decoy" FF roles

Sylvia & Moloney - our inside ball winners than need to win more contests than they loose, clearance work essential

Our "kids" and secondary players must then make a competition of it on the flanks.

If this went our way I would be happy with 7-8 wins hoping we are an out side chance at 10-11.

IMHO its very dangerous to write off "young teams" if they get their confidence up.

Go Dees!!!!

5 (1 votes [2.08%])

Bluey!

6-7 wins will be a pass, through out the year we will surprise teams who are in the top eight,

Youth is a great thing, and we have plenty of it on our side,

Bring On 2010!!

that poll result is a thing of mathematical beauty, tells us 8 wins is the expectation, with 80% picking between 7 and 9

well im going for around 9..it could be 8..or ten.. .

Many are espousing the view that they want the team to be competitive , but still expect many losses. Thats a very negative stance for mine. If they are indeed competitive then you go out with the view to win. As others have noted the drive and impetus are to be very different this year. its seems almost palpable from the club already and not a ball has been kicked in anger.

We almost caused a boil over against the Sainters and were more than in there in some other games until the 'experimentation" took over. Im not saying this to be wildly and unrealistically optimistic but I think many are selling the club short already. Many games can spin on a coup[le of goals. If youre not that bothered to win ...then you lose.. if youre now playing fair dinkum and the whole modus of the club is geared to win, then you may well start to see some differing results in those tight clinches,

Theres a wealth of talent coming through and weve got a year or two's jump on some other clubs. Expect to see players kept in positions where their talent suits, expect better craftmanship of execution, accept that they are now EXPECTED to win. Yep dont see why 8-9 isnt at all achievable,....and that may well be conservative.

They are going from a team who's goal was to grab extra picks to a team who now have them in the bag and are now chasing a prize.

Its a whole different ball game

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Similarly it is completely possible that we will only win 5-6 and lose 8 more by less than 10 points and just not be able to finish off those victories. I won't be too disappointed if that happens, but it will be a frustrating year.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Definately will be frustrating. I think we will win 5-7.

In the cold light of January it is a little difficult to see where 8+ wins will come from.

<b>Good chance of victory (7): </b>

Richmond (@ MCG x 2)

North Melbourne (@ Etihad + MCG)

West Coast (@ MCG)

Port Adelaide (@ TIO)

Sydney Swans (@ MCG)

<b>

Unexpected but possible (6): </b>

Collingwood (@ MCG x 2)

Port Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Carlton (@ MCG)

Essendon (@ MCG)

Fremantle (@ Subiaco)

<b>Major upset required (5): </b>

Hawthorn (@ MCG x 2)

Adelaide (@ MCG)

Brisbane Lions (@ MCG)

Western Bulldogs (@ MCG)

<b>No chance (4): </b>

Geelong (@ Skilled)

Adelaide (@ AAMI)

Brisbane Lions (@ Gabba)

St Kilda (@ Etihad)

I don't believe there are any games that are "No Chance" and I hope to god the team never goes out on to the park thinking this way.I would recategorise the "No Chance" category to "Unlikely". You never know what injuries will hit Geelong,Adelaide,Brisbane Lions and St Kilda when we play them or what attitude they will run out onto the ground with.

I also think your over rating the Brisbane Lions.