6 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

Henderson is your man and hes on our list. Has to be worth a shot and probably his best chance of playing.

Surely you jest ! He has less chance than Jefferson of succeeding. And he lacks any physical presence.

21 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

No its quiet different. Jack had stress fracture of his navicular bone.

My wife had a lis franc & I can tell you Jake won't play at all this year.

There seems to be disparate opinions regarding Jake's injury.

We have heard both Lisfranc and navicular - either need long term carefully planned rehab.

Would it be in Jake's best interests really, long term, to write 2026 off either way?

20 hours ago, beelzebub said:

A door will open

Sounds like to old one about grandpa.

Grandpa always says, one door closes, another one opens.

A lovely guy but an awful carpenter

21 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

No its quiet different. Jack had stress fracture of his navicular bone.

My wife had a lis franc & I can tell you Jake won't play at all this year.

I can tell you, you haven't seen the scan, weren't involved in the surgery, so Cranke you can make a guess but you wouldn't know. 2 things are never the same.

54 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Surely you jest ! He has less chance than Jefferson of succeeding. And he lacks any physical presence.

Not all, as I said IMO it would be an opening for him where I don't see one forward for him. And your judging his physical presence off what???

On 08/12/2025 at 11:30, old55 said:

Today's shuttle run results

https://www.instagram.com/p/DR_XTPYkSHZ/?igsh=MXNlNjNncXltazhueg==

Sharp, Laurie, AJ, CJ, Chandler ...

So annoyed they don't share numbers, but I did note Sharp had his watch on and it was at 19:03, which is off the charts... A standard 20m shuttle run (Beep Test) usually finishes in 10-15 minutes for very fit individuals; 20 minutes signifies an endurance level rarely seen, hitting level 18/17... if anyone is interested:

Level	Shuttles	running speed (km/h)	time per shuttle (s)	Total level time (s)	Cumulative Time (min:seconds)	Distance per level (m)	Cumulative Distance (m

18

15

17.0

4.24

63.5

18:53

300

4000

22 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

Not all, as I said IMO it would be an opening for him where I don't see one forward for him. And your judging his physical presence off what???

Watched almost every game he has played including Casey ones. IMHO he needs to be much more physical & aggressive with his attack on the ball more like Hibberd or May if he is going to make it which I highly doubt.

23 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

I can tell you, you haven't seen the scan, weren't involved in the surgery, so Cranke you can make a guess but you wouldn't know. 2 things are never the same.

Well I did speak in detail to the surgeon about lis franc & he advised me that the injuries are nearly all similar & so is the surgery & recovery - ie repair of the ligaments holding the metatarsal bones in place. A bit like most ACL's are similar as is the recovery period.

1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

Well I did speak in detail to the surgeon about lis franc & he advised me that the injuries are nearly all similar & so is the surgery & recovery - ie repair of the ligaments holding the metatarsal bones in place. A bit like most ACL's are similar as is the recovery period.

I may well be wrong Cranky, and apologies if I am, but I'm guessing you and your wife are not currently elite athletes plying your trade in a billion dollar competition.

And if that's the case your experience dealing with your lis franc injury, whilst certainly giving you real insight into what Bowser will go thru, is of limited value in terms of estimating the length of his recovery period.

That's to say a young elite athlete in prime condition with access to cutting edge, expensive medical treatmwnt support and a full time medical team guiding his rehabilitation is likely to recover more quickly than Jo and Joanne public who have had the same injury.

2 minutes ago, binman said:

I may well be wrong Cranky, and apologies if I am, but I'm guessing you and your wife are not currently elite athletes plying your trade in a billion dollar competition.

And if that's the case your experience dealing with your lis franc injury, whilst certainly giving you real insight into what Bowser will go thru, is of limited value in terms of estimating the length of his recovery period.

That's to say a young elite athlete in prime condition with access to cutting edge, expensive medical treatmwnt support and a full time medical team guiding his rehabilitation is likely to recover more quickly than Jo and Joanne public who have had the same injury.

He likely won’t wash his Endone down with a nice glass of red wine.

On 10/12/2025 at 08:00, BangBnagBang said:

Henderson is your man and hes on our list. Has to be worth a shot and probably his best chance of playing.

He could be... but as far as I know he has only played forward (maybe a few midfield minutes) at VFL / AFL level. Couldn't we go for the best lockdown small defender not on an AFL list (if Bowey was put on the long term injury list). Surely there would be some decent ones there - maybe not stars - but very reliable players that get the job done shutting down the most dangerous small forwards week in week out.

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Not sure this post stands up to scrutiny. (See what I did there?) The left foot of a right-foot kick takes all the stress of the body as it's planted on the ground during the kick. I would have thought the injury would be at least equally problematic whichever foot it's happened to.

On 10/12/2025 at 08:02, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Not sure this post stands up to scrutiny. (See what I did there?) The left foot of a right-foot kick takes all the stress of the body as it's planted on the ground during the kick. I would have thought the injury would be at least equally problematic whichever foot it's happened to.

Well I will respectfully disagree. After a conversation with an ex footballer ( who had a Lisfranc ) he explained the healing process you go through ..lot of work on balance..wobble boards etc but guess what “kicking” is not part of that process. According to him it’s a massive advantage when you’re not loading your foot with a heavy football. I’m def no expert but commonsense dictates that would be quite an obvious observation.

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

He likely won’t wash his Endone down with a nice glass of red wine.

Good combo, or so i've heard........

2 hours ago, binman said:

I may well be wrong Cranky, and apologies if I am, but I'm guessing you and your wife are not currently elite athletes plying your trade in a billion dollar competition.

And if that's the case your experience dealing with your lis franc injury, whilst certainly giving you real insight into what Bowser will go thru, is of limited value in terms of estimating the length of his recovery period.

That's to say a young elite athlete in prime condition with access to cutting edge, expensive medical treatmwnt support and a full time medical team guiding his rehabilitation is likely to recover more quickly than Jo and Joanne public who have had the same injury.

You may well be correct Binman but remember Clubs & players love to put a positive PR spin on injuries.

Jake has to let the surgery heal then get his fitness back then find form.

Doubt he can contribute in 2026 but would be happy to be proved wrong.

On 10/12/2025 at 08:08, Cranky Franky said:

Surely you jest ! He has less chance than Jefferson of succeeding. And he lacks any physical presence.

I think he = Hendo?. Anyway henderson spent all his time on the bike and looked as skinny as. And apparently his current injury was caused by over doing it in the gym. Some can't win.

29 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

You may well be correct Binman but remember Clubs & players love to put a positive PR spin on injuries.

Jake has to let the surgery heal then get his fitness back then find form.

Doubt he can contribute in 2026 but would be happy to be proved wrong.

Yep, you're right about needing to find fitness.

Even if he does come back by mid-season, he'll be miles off optimal condition given he's now lost half the preseason.

5 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Watched almost every game he has played including Casey ones. IMHO he needs to be much more physical & aggressive with his attack on the ball more like Hibberd or May if he is going to make it which I highly doubt.

Unfortunately that is the one thing that can’t be taught.

Thanks all for your updates

There threads can get a bit confusing regarding just who "he" is.

Maybe a suggestion to improve readability would be particularly if the player isn't named in the post one is immediately replying to, to put he (Bowey) or he (Jeffo) etc etc

Just a thought