3 hours ago, poita said:

If Berry isn't ready to plug and play at Casey, we need to investigate other options as soon as possible. We sent Kyah Farris-White to SBMT at least 12 months too late.

Other options urgently for what role?

Berry is described as a 194cm mobile defender. We're very well stocked there.

Edited yesterday at 08:131 day by old55

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Other options urgently for what role?

Berry is described as a 194cm mobile defender. We're very well stocked there.

They mean other options for places for him to play to get up to vfl speed if required. By KFW wasted time playing at Casey when he needed to be about 6 grades lower.

Being a bit older if he’s fit and competitive after a preseason he should be able to play back pocket and survive. But a back up local club would be wise.

Soon after getting our picks, Cal said something like "watch the Dees try to trade up, they always do".

9 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Soon after getting our picks, Cal said something like "watch the Dees try to trade up, they always do".

Yeah my last post was based off snippets along the way like this, past history and the fact we've lost our power mid/forward re Robey. I agree with others it'd be nice to keep two first rounders in this draft though to get in talent now. I've come round to Grjl from others reports but he may be firming to be off the table.

AFL Phantom Draft 2025: Top 10 prospects, first round pro...

Now that the AFL trade period is over, it's time for focus on November's AFL National Draft.

Can guarantee Taylor will drafterpay '27 first rounder into '26 with Tassie coming in based around f/s and academy picks. So the messaging around 4 x 2 first rounders in a row may still align. Maybe Suns f1st comes into play to get up the board.

Otherwise that leaves us in Lindsay territory (who fills a list need for us) and a number of interstate players around that mark. In particular tall forwards who I doubt we'll be into with our list of developing talls. Split or get up the board imo if it's to play out like the link

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by shakeandbake

3 hours ago, old55 said:

I think pick trading up to and during this year's draft is going to be very interesting.

We know who currently has 2025 picks but the two other things that are very important are who has highly rated Academy and F/S prospects for 2026 and what range do you think teams will finish in 2026. These two factors will heavily influence the possible movement of future 2026 picks. It's really impossible to predict what might be possible without taking all that into consideration.

There's not a lot of current detail on 2026 prospects AFAIK (yeah Cody Walker is a top prospect), and it's personal speculation where teams might finish.

think port have dougie cochrane as a top 2 pick too

Richmond Next Generation Academy prospect Tanner Armstrong had 25 disposals and seven clearances on GF day in the futures game

Hodge, who has the choice between Brisbane Academy and Hawthorn as a father-son, had 16 touches and a goal in the game as father Luke watched on in the stands.

Aidan McCartney also played he's FS to North but also in the Swans academy (dad works at the giants now)

What do people think of:

7, F1 (GC), F1 (Dees 2027) & 37

For

2, 13 & F2

On points it is relatively even, depending on where Dees and GC finish in the next 2 years of course.

Gives us 2,8,13 for 2025 Draft and gives us back a 2nd rounder next year.

2. Robey 8. Grlj /Lindsey 13. Dovaston

19 minutes ago, Brenno said:

What do people think of:

7, F1 (GC), F1 (Dees 2027) & 37

For

2, 13 & F2

On points it is relatively even, depending on where Dees and GC finish in the next 2 years of course.

Gives us 2,8,13 for 2025 Draft and gives us back a 2nd rounder next year.

2. Robey 8. Grlj /Lindsey 13. Dovaston

Don't like it. Selling too much of the future.

10 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Don't like it. Selling too much of the future.

I think its great and west coast would never go for it.

2027 draft will be so compromised its not funny. GC f1 for next year is most likely 16-18

But no way WC would do that.

37 minutes ago, Brenno said:

What do people think of:

7, F1 (GC), F1 (Dees 2027) & 37

For

2, 13 & F2

On points it is relatively even, depending on where Dees and GC finish in the next 2 years of course.

Gives us 2,8,13 for 2025 Draft and gives us back a 2nd rounder next year.

2. Robey 8. Grlj /Lindsey 13. Dovaston

I like the thinking and would wager JT will be aggressive in getting up the board and creative with a F1st. I think they'll reserve at least one of next years 1st if we're any chance of landing Humphrey. I think DL'drs would be happy with a combination 1 of 2 of the former and 1 of 2 of the latter.

20 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Don't like it. Selling too much of the future.

Agree. There will also be considerable pull for free agents though if we can get Caulfield up and if we've got an exciting young talented list. Get out of '27 then '28 onwards bring in established talent akin to Lever/May will be the strategy I reckon.

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by shakeandbake

Someone who hasn’t been mentioned much, but Sam Cumming from highlights looks quite exciting.

This video is Eagles focused, but kinda relates to us.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by 2021

47 minutes ago, Roddog said:

Someone who hasn’t been mentioned much, but Sam Cumming from highlights looks quite exciting.

Plays too much like Tom Sparrow for my liking..

I previously posted this in the wrong thread.

If desperate, would we go as far as trading 7,8 & Suns F1 for 2 and something back?

15 minutes ago, 2021 said:

I previously posted this in the wrong thread.

If desperate, would we go as far as trading 7,8 & Suns F1 for 2 and something back?

7, 8, Suns F1st ~15, 37 for WCE 2, 13 & 34 would be about as good as it gets to be placed get Robey, Dovaston and Pickett. Draft calculator has that as a surplus of about pick 36 to WCE. Puts them in the range of SA/WA talent as well. Going off Wellingham's suggestion could possibly happen. They would need to have cooled considerably on CDT though

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by shakeandbake

I wonder if the players we highly rate are off the board by 7 or 8, if we could look to manufacture another first round pick from next year. There are a few WA & SA players prjected to go around our pick, so could be something like the following (examples) trade 8 to Adelaide for 16 & F1; or 8 to Port for F1 & FF2; or 8 to WC for 13 & FF1; or 8 to Freo for 20 & F1 & FF2. See if we can tempt some teams into moving now. SA in particular have a strong field of projected players this year, while WA has Farrow which might end up around WC 13 anyway, but they might be tempted to jump early or Freo could try to move up.

6 hours ago, Brenno said:

What do people think of:

7, F1 (GC), F1 (Dees 2027) & 37

For

2, 13 & F2

On points it is relatively even, depending on where Dees and GC finish in the next 2 years of course.

Gives us 2,8,13 for 2025 Draft and gives us back a 2nd rounder next year.

2. Robey 8. Grlj /Lindsey 13. Dovaston

I think it's 8 and our F1 for 2 and 13 and we promise not to take WC's WA prospect at 7. Our F1 has a lot of value, clubs will think we finish 14th or worse next year.

But we'd really want the player at 2 to do this.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by old55

I watched all of the available footage on you tube of Dovaston and I’m not sold on him. Kicks a nice goal from the boundary and some other regulation set shots but also misses a couple, nothing that screams natural fwd craft. Field kicking is average to ordinary with a few up and under / turn over kicks, fumbles a bit in certain passages and plays for the high free kick once or twice. Not a lot of vision of his marking ability. As I said earlier in the week he’s very busy buzzing around everywhere and runs hard to link up and create opportunity but doesn’t seem very damaging by foot and that’s what we need.

It all sounds great trading up but I prefer 4 first rounders over the next two years, I trust JT and we are going to lose a few next year and look what can happen when you have picks up your sleeve and some spare coin in the bin.

2 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I wonder if the players we highly rate are off the board by 7 or 8, if we could look to manufacture another first round pick from next year. There are a few WA & SA players prjected to go around our pick, so could be something like the following (examples) trade 8 to Adelaide for 16 & F1; or 8 to Port for F1 & FF2; or 8 to WC for 13 & FF1; or 8 to Freo for 20 & F1 & FF2. See if we can tempt some teams into moving now. SA in particular have a strong field of projected players this year, while WA has Farrow which might end up around WC 13 anyway, but they might be tempted to jump early or Freo could try to move up.

IF (and that is a big if as I have no idea) this draft really is poorer than most drafts particualrly next years, this sort of strategy makes a lot of sense to me.

The players would have to be really really good to combine first round picks for - and from what I've read / seen, this years' crop don't warrant it. Imagine heading into next years draft with 3 first round picks if it were similar quality to last year or Pickett's year.

4 hours ago, 2021 said:

This video is Eagles focused, but kinda relates to us.

This guy seems to know his stuff. Interesting he seems to think West Coast would need to get one of Melbourne's picks to get Dovaston - he doesn't think he'll last to their third pick (I think 13).

21 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I watched all of the available footage on you tube of Dovaston and I’m not sold on him. Kicks a nice goal from the boundary and some other regulation set shots but also misses a couple, nothing that screams natural fwd craft. Field kicking is average to ordinary with a few up and under / turn over kicks, fumbles a bit in certain passages and plays for the high free kick once or twice. Not a lot of vision of his marking ability. As I said earlier in the week he’s very busy buzzing around everywhere and runs hard to link up and create opportunity but doesn’t seem very damaging by foot and that’s what we need.

And that's exactly what we lack. His kicking is fine for what we need.

20 minutes ago, Gator said:

And that's exactly what we lack. His kicking is fine for what we need.

I haven’t seen him live or followed his junior career maybe others have, I can only go of what’s on you tube and I would disagree.

28 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I haven’t seen him live or followed his junior career maybe others have, I can only go of what’s on you tube and I would disagree.

Indeed.

1 hour ago, Gator said:

And that's exactly what we lack. His kicking is fine for what we need.

I’ve watched a few clips today of players likely to available around 7 & 8 and Lindsay for me is by the best kick in that range.