4 hours ago, Pirlo said:

Picking Petty as a forward is the definition of cowardice from the senior coach. He is absolutely desperate to pad out or win/loss record this season.

Yep DEEEESGRACE

10 hours ago, Strawberry Fields said:

Ok. Which players do you think should be in? Also, over the past two weeks, post match interview players have spoken about implementing a new gameplan. So my guess is they are focussed on 2026.

Are you saying Petty isn’t in our future? Sparrow? Howe? I think there’s a lot of dreaming here about AJ and Laurie somehow tearing things up at AFL level when they haven’t in the past.

I’m no expert. But sometimes you have to trust the experts.

Jeffo, Kentfield,Laurie, Adams, Mentha, Woey, Culley, Brown, you just have to play them and see! Petty and Spargo are disgraceful decisions which reek of a desperate coach just trying to keep his job, Petty as a forward has been a massive joke and bust. HE IS A PREMIERSHIP DEFENDER. If Jeffo and Kentfield aren't played when we have opporrunity to get games into them for 2026 its an indictment on this club moving forward!

Edited Friday at 22:091 day by picket fence

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yes, he wants to win games using the same players in the same positions who have shown they are not up to it for the last two seasons. Instead of trialling new things to set us up for 2026 he is trying to scrap wins or limit the damage against mediocre teams to keep the wolves at bay. We should be focused on 2026 and beyond now, not winning or minimising the damage in meaningless games vs the Saints or Eagles in the next two weeks.

Thankyou.

I'm afraid that Goody is as well.

These picks suggest a man trying to salvage his job.

Definitely time for him to go now.

Jefferson wasn't great but it was I believe his best game in only a handful of seemingly trending upwards.

And then we drop the poor kid.

Way to install confidence.

And after two years, Goody still can't accept that Petty isn't a fwd. What's that all about?

15 minutes ago, Previously known as LITD. said:

Thankyou.

I'm afraid that Goody is as well.

These picks suggest a man trying to salvage his job.

Definitely time for him to go now.

Jefferson wasn't great but it was I believe his best game in only a handful of seemingly trending upwards.

And then we drop the poor kid.

Way to install confidence.

And after two years, Goody still can't accept that Petty isn't a fwd. What's that all about?

Its called Stubborn Delusionality!

53 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Jeffo, Kentfield,Laurie, Adams, Mentha, Woey, Culley, Brown, you just have to play them and see! Petty and Spargo are disgraceful decisions which reek of a desperate coach just trying to keep his job, Petty as a forward has been a massive joke and bust. HE IS A PREMIERSHIP DEFENDER. If Jeffo and Kentfield aren't played when we have opporrunity to get games into them for 2026 its an indictment on this club moving forward!

While some of those you mentioned may not be ready, I would rather see us lose but playing players who could be our future.

Jeffo while not great last week, is contesting and needs a block of games to get the confidence that he won’t be dropped, as soon as he plays a moderate to poor game. If you are trying to develop him as a key forward after a few years at the club you have to play him. A breakout game like we gave Moir from Carlton, could be all he needs to become a regular key forward for us. I can’t believe he is out.

AJ deserved a game this week ahead of Petty. He actually showed a lot for Casey and has aggression at the ball, can kick straight and takes one grabs. He also is that relief ruck to allow JVR to stay forward.

This year is gone and we should be finding out who we keep.

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

While some of those you mentioned may not be ready, I would rather see us lose but playing players who could be our future.

Jeffo while not great last week, is contesting and needs a block of games to get the confidence that he won’t be dropped, as soon as he plays a moderate to poor game. If you are trying to develop him as a key forward after a few years at the club you have to play him. A breakout game like we gave Moir from Carlton, could be all he needs to become a regular key forward for us. I can’t believe he is out.

AJ deserved a game this week ahead of Petty. He actually showed a lot for Casey and has aggression at the ball, can kick straight and takes one grabs. He also is that relief ruck to allow JVR to stay forward.

This year is gone and we should be finding out who we keep.

Exactly

I’m pretty much past caring who we pick and who we drop.

2 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I’m pretty much past caring who we pick and who we drop.

Agree Rab its pretty much on par with a flock of seagulls fighting over last week's chips the council hasn't collected from the foreshore bin.

Edited yesterday at 00:001 day by Tarax Club

18 hours ago, sue said:

I think it is indeed contradictory to say he plays favourites (which you dislike because it leads to sub-optimum teams being selected and lost games) and at the same time say he's trying to win games to save his job. You don't win games and save your job by playing players who shouldn't be played.

I think the issue is timing - at what point do you throw in the towel for playing finals versus playing new players who may or may not be ready for it etc. That is a difficult decision. But simply accusing the coach (and playing committee) of playing favourites/job saving is a bit over the top, especially without insider knowledge.

I think you're misunderstanding me.

I think Goodwin puts more trust in a senior/ core group of players to get wins, (even when they're not getting wins and even if they've individually had poor runs of games) over bringing less experienced players in who perhaps deserve a run at senior level..

And I think part of why he is reluctant to drop senior players who are out of form is because he thinks we're still a higher chance to win with them in (regardless of form), AND because he is scared of what the consequences will be at an individual relationship level..

You may disagree, but it's not a contradiction.

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Its called Stubborn Delusionality!

no its called effing gutless .Its not just goodwin its the whole selection group and pizz weak commitee

Just now, ghost who walks said:

no its called effing gutless .Its not just goodwin its the whole selection group and pizz weak commitee

Why don't you say what you really tnink! BUT I agree 100%

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

While some of those you mentioned may not be ready, I would rather see us lose but playing players who could be our future.

Jeffo while not great last week, is contesting and needs a block of games to get the confidence that he won’t be dropped, as soon as he plays a moderate to poor game. If you are trying to develop him as a key forward after a few years at the club you have to play him. A breakout game like we gave Moir from Carlton, could be all he needs to become a regular key forward for us. I can’t believe he is out.

AJ deserved a game this week ahead of Petty. He actually showed a lot for Casey and has aggression at the ball, can kick straight and takes one grabs. He also is that relief ruck to allow JVR to stay forward.

This year is gone and we should be finding out who we keep.

AJ should have played every game to put backbone in weak forward line

On 22/07/2025 at 15:30, rpfc said:

Jefferson is not up to it

Petty to kick 6 today the universe in align with chocolate fudge cake or something like that. Kozzie will kick 5 ( $ 50,000 a goal perhaps $100,000) however I expect us to lose by 20 pts.

Next week's guest emergencies will be Ethanol and O.J only to be dropped back to the cantina. Casey should have an easy kill so no one deserves to get promoted in the world of Goodyness.

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Jefferson should be playing.

Rivers should be playing midfield. We should be running others through there as well like McVee, Windsor, Langford, Lindsay etc Running with Oliver, Petracca and Viney at 85% of our centre bounces is ridiculous.

I think Adams should be given a few games as well and even Kentfield if we are dropping Jefferson (if we were to play him the next 2 games would be ideal).

We should be playing an actual 2nd ruck and letting JVR settle into the forward role.

On Petty, nah I don't think he's our future, not up forward anyway. Shown enough to know he doesn't have the intensity or physical presence of a key forward. Maybe play him down back to replace May and give him another crack in defence, up forward no.

Spargo is ok when he gets the footy but we know what we're getting with him (same for Sparrow really but I like his overhead marking across half forward). Would rather see another player at half forward and if not a newbie like Brown or someone then play Bowey, McVee or even Salem across half forward and see what they offer.

Instead we'll just get more of the same old same old with the same players butchering the ball in the midfield, the same lack of co test up forward with Petty etc etc Do the same thing, expect the same results.

When the "experts" have shown again and again how poor their decision making is why would you trust them?

Ok, and the bloke who you think should be in, does???? Jefferson, spare me. Was it Kelvin Moore who once said to Mark Jackson, "you will never make it as long as your [censored] is pointing to the ground"?

Edited yesterday at 01:161 day by ijustwannaseeaflag

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Jeffo, Kentfield,Laurie, Adams, Mentha, Woey, Culley, Brown

Jeffo has had a good run of games...probably not up to it, definitely not ready.

Kentfield's time will come.

Adams hasn't really played a game the demands selection.

Laurie has been tried and found wanting. The only thing I would like to see is maybe getting a run in the midfield.

Mentha is a long way off it but has some promise.

Culley has just started to show a bit playing some more mid time, would like to see him get a run.

Brown, love his endeavour but disposal really is the issue.

Woey has had his chances.

Choosing Petty over Jeffo is sad and a shocking decision, awful selection, Spargo too I mean who cares we need to play the kids who are our future and Petty should be played back my god what are they thinking. Dumb pointless decision. I was actually excited watching JVR and Jeffo play together and I thought they were trending up too, just give them more time you [censored] didn't they say "don't want to waste any games"??? Picking Petty instead of Jeffo seems like a pointless waste to me.

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Jeffo, Kentfield,Laurie, Adams, Mentha, Woey, Culley, Brown, you just have to play them and see! Petty and Spargo are disgraceful decisions which reek of a desperate coach just trying to keep his job, Petty as a forward has been a massive joke and bust. HE IS A PREMIERSHIP DEFENDER. If Jeffo and Kentfield aren't played when we have opporrunity to get games into them for 2026 its an indictment on this club moving forward!

I get your points Picket and respect them. But those guys are playing… Albeit in the VFL. I think there’s a fair gap between VFL and AFL (most do) and the “play them and see” argument is clutching at straws and wishing for an outcome that is unlikely.

Just recalling Goody's presser a couple of weeks back, I think the whole reason Petty played VFL was just for match fitness. I didn't think it would have mattered if Petty had only 2 touches, Goody clearly thinks he's a lock in the 23.

Regarding Jeffo, one thing I hear Goody say over and over again is developing players in the "right way". What I think he's alluding to is that his philosophy is that you can't just keep a player at the AFL level if they're not performing and it can stunt their development. He believes it's a journey of zig zags with multiple promotions and demotions.

One other thing, does anyone recall the SEN morning interview a few weeks back? I heard him talk about the unwanted pressure the 0-5 start put on the club. I wonder if we had started better there would have been more risks taken with positional changes and tweaks of game plan that he wanted to do, but the pressure of getting wins meant he had to play it safe with some decisions. I just thought it was a really interesting comment talking about unwanted pressure and he seemed to dwell on the point a bit.

1 hour ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

Ok, and the bloke who you think should be in, does???? Jefferson, spare me. Was it Kelvin Moore who once said to Mark Jackson, "you will never make it as long as your [censored] is pointing to the ground"?

Maybe not but he needs to have a block of games so we can make a call. Do you think Jefferson will be cut this offseason? If not then we may as well keep playing him to see if he improves, I feel like his intensity has improved slightly (it was shocking in his first few appearances) and he is getting to the footy. He needs to start sticking marks and kicking goals both of which will come with confidence.

Spargo. In. He was average at Casey last week. So he’s in. That’s another 9 possessions. 2 kicks perhaps for 20 metres to hit a target somewhere inside 50 metres. Think maybe 1 goal at best but likely zero direct scoreboard impact. He’s not the answer. I know some asked if they’d bring in Mentha jnr. Goody doesn’t experiment much and sticks to his favourites.

35 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Just recalling Goody's presser a couple of weeks back, I think the whole reason Petty played VFL was just for match fitness. I didn't think it would have mattered if Petty had only 2 touches, Goody clearly thinks he's a lock in the 23.

Regarding Jeffo, one thing I hear Goody say over and over again is developing players in the "right way". What I think he's alluding to is that his philosophy is that you can't just keep a player at the AFL level if they're not performing and it can stunt their development. He believes it's a journey of zig zags with multiple promotions and demotions.

One other thing, does anyone recall the SEN morning interview a few weeks back? I heard him talk about the unwanted pressure the 0-5 start put on the club. I wonder if we had started better there would have been more risks taken with positional changes and tweaks of game plan that he wanted to do, but the pressure of getting wins meant he had to play it safe with some decisions. I just thought it was a really interesting comment talking about unwanted pressure and he seemed to dwell on the point a bit.

1st para - no-one should be a "lock". That's the problem

2nd para - different rules for different players, Petty is a lock but Jefferson is dropped for not performing. That's the problem.

3rd para - there's always an excuse

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Maybe not but he needs to have a block of games so we can make a call. Do you think Jefferson will be cut this offseason? If not then we may as well keep playing him to see if he improves, I feel like his intensity has improved slightly (it was shocking in his first few appearances) and he is getting to the footy. He needs to start sticking marks and kicking goals both of which will come with confidence.

Nah, doesnt cut the mustard, never will. Another Sam Weideman. Calsher Dear, Logan Morris, Treacy, Amiss, Cadman, Walter, Shannon Neale, the list goes on........

59 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Maybe not but he needs to have a block of games so we can make a call. Do you think Jefferson will be cut this offseason? If not then we may as well keep playing him to see if he improves, I feel like his intensity has improved slightly (it was shocking in his first few appearances) and he is getting to the footy. He needs to start sticking marks and kicking goals both of which will come with confidence.

He is contracted till end of 2026, will be great to see him really prosper once a better coach is appionted next year!

11 hours ago, Pirlo said:

Picking Petty as a forward is the definition of cowardice from the senior coach. He is absolutely desperate to pad out or win/loss record this season.

So you are saying Petty is the best tall fwd option to bring in?