12 hours ago, bing181 said:

You have figures to back that up?

Do i need figures?

You add a couple of percent to each pre season Pre Season year 22,23,24,25 and we are at 8 percent.

Factor into the mix we added no quality recruits in this time that made us a stronger footy team.

Mix this into your potion and stir nicely then stick that in to the calculations and their is your 2 percent yearly gradual drop off!

It may even be more.

We never improved this list like other teams in their windows.

We couldn't attract them with our facilities or weren't in a position to offer more money.

This is where we are living right now.

We've drafted well but couldn't capitalise on 2021 so we've started our regeneration from a higher base than the bottom this time round.

Edited April 9, 2025Apr 9 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

2 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Do i need figures?

Given you’re the one making the claim and given that very detailed fitness and biometric data exists on every player in the AFL, yes.

But thanks for confirming that you have no such data to back up your assertion.

6 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I'm not convinced it is fitness.

It’s not fitness.

On one of the footy shows someone made the comment that across the AFL all clubs do more or less the same thing and all players have more or less the same level of fitness.

People are just clutching at straws.

So some have more , some have less

I'm going with us having less. Certainly looks less and less compared to our better times

I very much doubt all teams are the same.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

It’s not fitness.

On one of the footy shows someone made the comment that across the AFL all clubs do more or less the same thing and all players have more or less the same level of fitness.

People are just clutching at straws.

Do you have evidence and data to back that up??

Curious if have to back up this claim?

13 hours ago, bing181 said:

It’s not fitness.

On one of the footy shows someone made the comment that across the AFL all clubs do more or less the same thing and all players have more or less the same level of fitness.

People are just clutching at straws.

“Players have more or less the same level of fitness” but a bit less is worse than a bit more.

I’d say it’s not 100% fitness, we’re also out of position and chasing tail a lot which takes more out of you than being ahead of the ball. But we’re also not running on top of the ground and I think we need to move on from Selwyn.

15 hours ago, bing181 said:

It’s not fitness.

On one of the footy shows someone made the comment that across the AFL all clubs do more or less the same thing and all players have more or less the same level of fitness.

People are just clutching at straws.

No chance this is true, would have been a throw away line to back up some other agenda

Might be a stretch but @Ghostwriter and @Kev while watching the boys at training, have you heard from any staff or players why they've moved the main training session 1 day closer to game day?

Edited April 10, 2025Apr 10 by At the break of Gawn

21 hours ago, bing181 said:

It’s not fitness.

On one of the footy shows someone made the comment that across the AFL all clubs do more or less the same thing and all players have more or less the same level of fitness.

People are just clutching at straws.

The quantity might be similar but there is a world of difference with someone like Burgess who had our players believing they could play through pain and that their superior fitness attitude would see them run out games better than the opposition and that we did with regularity during 21 and 22

16 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The quantity might be similar but there is a world of difference with someone like Burgess who had our players believing they could play through pain and that their superior fitness attitude would see them run out games better than the opposition and that we did with regularity during 21 and 22

Some say we started breaking down early to mid 22 and that our game style plus Burgess is a brutal thing year on year. I guess we’ll watch Adelaide with interest although they’re playing fast transition as opposed to long, bash and crash.

29 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Might be a stretch but @Ghostwriter and @Kev while watching the boys at training, have you heard from any staff or players why they've moved the main training session 1 day closer to game day?

I’m not sure it’s a permanent thing. I think it depends on what day of the week our game is scheduled and if interstate travel is involved, as well as when the shared facilities at AAMI are available, and they work around these factors. I can find out for sure though 👍🏽

I have noticed that numerous other clubs train during the afternoon, rather than first thing in the morning, which we mostly do. North are often out training at 6pm under lights.

For the sports science posters, what's the value/reasoning behind this?

Edited April 10, 2025Apr 10 by Stiff Arm