"It would need to be an amazing deal", I love that the club is taking this stance if this report is true.

5 minutes ago, Nightmare continues said:

"It would need to be an amazing deal", I love that the club is taking this stance if this report is true.

Hopefully the stance of the club last year and this year is part of a turning of the tide league wide in terms of want away players under contract. The idea of us paying the wages of anyone who doesn't want to play for us is just ridiculous. The compromising needs to be done by the player and their target club. The player can forgo some money and the target club can sacrifice some talent in order to bring them in. Should never be an expectation of the club holding the contract.

22 hours ago, qarocks said:

petracca said he wanted change and likely didnt ask for a trade, just get better.

the club made changes and eventually sacked the coach and have a new voice. you cant really make more changes than that.

so the club is doing everything he asked, but people still think he is gone for "reasons".

makes no sense to me, unless he and the coach dont see eye to eye for some reason.

id be betting he stays unless a club offers overs and you cant turn it down.

he has most definitely lost his standing in the playing group. With his carry on last year , it would be really hard to come back from that. He maybe able to repair the relationships with hus close mates, but not with all the senior team.

There is nothing else that hasn’t changed , so suspect this may have a lot to do with it.

Edited Saturday at 03:272 days by GS_1905

42 minutes ago, adonski said:

Unless Rachele or Thilthorpe are involved in a deal with the Crows, the only way we deal with them is by involving a third party.

Just now, Adam The God said:

Unless Rachele or Thilthorpe are involved in a deal with the Crows, the only way we deal with them is by involving a third party.

Agreed. Crows need to get GCS pick 6 or 7 which will take a massive offer from them. That would then need to be coupled with their F1. Getting two top 10s in one year will be unlikely

They'll likely lose a contracted Jordan Butts which may get another 2nd rounder through the door for the Crows

Could they package up 14 & 28 (via WBD for Butts) for GCS' pick 7 (received from StK for Flanders)?

12 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Agreed. Crows need to get GCS pick 6 or 7 which will take a massive offer from them. That would then need to be coupled with their F1. Getting two top 10s in one year will be unlikely

I'd just use Adelaide as leverage in a deal with the Suns. Either the Suns come through with pick 6 and 7 (vis St Kilda for Flanders) or Trac stays IMO.

The dees position seems to be clear. The door is open but it’s not a fire sale. If we get a deal that makes us better we will look at it

1 hour ago, GS_1905 said:

he has most definitely lost his standing in the playing group. With his carry on last year , it would be really hard to come back from that. He maybe able to repair the relationships with hus close mates, but not with all the senior team.

There is nothing else that hasn’t changed , so suspect this may have a lot to do with it.

Seems there is a bit of ill will in general and not just around Tracc.

The right deal or no deal

Moving to Adelaide or GC would be a downgrade for Trac profile..

if Trac wants a flag in the next couple of years he needs to find a way to the Lions because they're only going to get better with another preseason into the Ashcrofts and Allen and Draper coming in.

14 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

if Trac wants a flag in the next couple of years he needs to find a way to the Lions because they're only going to get better with another preseason into the Ashcrofts and Allen and Draper coming in.

It'll be between the Lions and Suns.

What’s sad & frustrating is if Trac wants out, watching how unified the lions group is and hearing Neil say how tight they are! Instead of our Norm Smith wanting to be part of the solution he wants to jump ship still in contract ..

To think we smashed Brisbane twice in 2022 with a strong list. Our list is now worse and they’re winning flags. Our management across the board has been ordinary.

14 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

To think we smashed Brisbane twice in 2022 with a strong list. Our list is now worse and they’re winning flags. Our management across the board has been ordinary.

To think post 2022 Brisbane got a two time Norm Smith medallist for pick 46 🙄

13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

To think post 2022 Brisbane got a two time Norm Smith medallist for pick 46 🙄

Then his twin Brother who a lot of people think might become even better. and they've got another Jet coming through the Academy this year as well.

27 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Then his twin Brother who a lot of people think might become even better. and they've got another Jet coming through the Academy this year as well.

The AFL is shooting itself in the foot

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

To think post 2022 Brisbane got a two time Norm Smith medallist for pick 46 🙄

Only 21 yo… F/S have worked well, the academies in Qld are producing good young talent for both the lions & GC, vic teams don’t have this, they have traded great exp talent and will get Draper & Allen .. Not sure how equalisation is in play when a back to back premiership team is able to do this…

3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

To think we smashed Brisbane twice in 2022 with a strong list. Our list is now worse and they’re winning flags. Our management across the board has been ordinary.

Goodwin pretty much summed up that after 21 the reasons for the drop off, our list is worse because we only trade in vfl players, apart from Grundy which failed which other player has improved our list

3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

To think we smashed Brisbane twice in 2022 with a strong list. Our list is now worse and they’re winning flags. Our management across the board has been ordinary.

I mean, we did beat them in Brisbane this year with our worse list. Footy’s a funny game.

If petracca says I want to leave and he wants to sign a new contract with a new club surely the MFC are no longer liable to honour the remaining payments? I can't imagine any industry where an employee chooses to resign and join a rival firm and expect their previous employer to keep paying them

6 hours ago, reynolds46 said:

If petracca says I want to leave and he wants to sign a new contract with a new club surely the MFC are no longer liable to honour the remaining payments? I can't imagine any industry where an employee chooses to resign and join a rival firm and expect their previous employer to keep paying them

Not how it works but it does belie the dirty little secret that not many are calling outright - the club has some agency to say that we will never trade him under contract but we are not saying that, and why are we not saying that? Because we might get a deal that we would prefer to having CP5 for the next few years.

So this ‘why won’t he just say he wants to stay then!1!1!1’ nonsense is just that when the club is equally as obtuse as the employer with a contracted player.

Why would any employee commit publicly. No one knows what unexpected opportunities may turn up. If you commit and a 'once in a lifetime opportunity' pops up you look like a clown when you back away from your commitment.

I guess we call that 'keeping your options open - both from a club and player point of view. Who knows the club may get a to good to refuse 'overs' offer.

Perhaps our list need to watch this to see what a selfless culture is

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPHrho9jOnV/?igsh=OWVjMXFoNjd6c3Q3

Edited Saturday at 23:281 day by Demonsone