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Petracca & Oliver at the Dees in 2026?

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39 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Until one of them goes somewhere…

It has been a good 6 weeks but we have to be very serious about how the list is managed the next 2 years especially - we might have the whip hand from a contractual POV with Pickett and CP5 seems back to his best, but Oliver has to continue to evolve in this modern game or we just have to move him on for the salary he is taking. Viney was moving to that role and it fitted him well, we can’t have them both do it, but we also must continue to move Rivers into the middle and allow Langford minutes in there.

I guess my point is that I am glad we are improving but we still have hard decisions to be made and they are made harder not easier by our good form.

Totally agree that we’re moving past the point where we can have both Oliver and Viney in the same midfield.

But it’s not Oliver who’ll find his spot in jeopardy. He can do everything Jack can do but to a higher level.

Because of everything you say about getting minutes into all those others, who all make us better, for me Jack has to re-invent himself as a pressure forward if he’s going to keep himself in the 22.

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    45 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    Until one of them goes somewhere…

    It has been a good 6 weeks but we have to be very serious about how the list is managed the next 2 years especially - we might have the whip hand from a contractual POV with Pickett and CP5 seems back to his best, but Oliver has to continue to evolve in this modern game or we just have to move him on for the salary he is taking. Viney was moving to that role and it fitted him well, we can’t have them both do it, but we also must continue to move Rivers into the middle and allow Langford minutes in there.

    I guess my point is that I am glad we are improving but we still have hard decisions to be made and they are made harder not easier by our good form.

    Oliver is a much better player than Jack. If he plays like he did yesterday for 23 weeks in a season he'll be A+ again. Jack isn't as damaging IMV.

    But we're lucky to have both of them and will fit them in. Jack in the forward half for mine.

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    3 hours ago, DeeZone said:

    I said it before and I’ll say it again Petracca, Oliver and Pickett are going nowhere.❤️💙🙏

    Your mouth to God’s ears! I hope that’s the case. If we can continue playing how we did yesterday, we’re golden.

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    1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

    Oliver is a much better player than Jack. If he plays like he did yesterday for 23 weeks in a season he'll be A+ again. Jack isn't as damaging IMV.

    But we're lucky to have both of them and will fit them in. Jack in the forward half for mine.

    I would not disagree. Also, Clarrie was more expansive in his role yesterday as Rivers was taking Heeney and no one else was worth tagging. So yesterday was a sight for sore eyes for his form - he still needs to evolve into having another string in his bow. Viney just has to be moved to the forward line in 2025 while we have this problem and if it doesn’t work then we can look at the situation again at the end of the year.

    I guess my larger point is that we can’t carry 8% of our salary cap in a tagger. It’s just not tenable. So either he builds back his form and supplements that with run with, and occasional stints back or forward, or he’s traded to get some draft collateral, midfield minutes for the kids, and we pay a third of his wage.

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    26 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    I guess my larger point is that we can’t carry 8% of our salary cap in a tagger.

    Sure, I just don't think that's our plan.

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    33 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    I guess my larger point is that we can’t carry 8% of our salary cap in a tagger. It’s just not tenable. So either he builds back his form and supplements that with run with, and occasional stints back or forward,

    I’m not as well versed in footy coaching/strategy as others but I feel like it’s been noted that the “tagging” isn’t really tagging and is instead a way to put Clarry with players/into spaces where he gets a lot of the ball and can shine, thus building back his form.

    Yesterday’s 31 disposals when he’s supposedly “tagging” seems like pretty strong evidence of this being the case.

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    5 hours ago, Dodos Demons said:

    To the untrained eye, the first image appears to show Clarry expressing sheer joy but if you pan down, you will see it is sheer agony. The culprit may wish he wasn't identifiable by the thumb strapping lol.

    The recent email from the club appears to have (appropriately) edited the random hand from the earlier photo 😉.

    Screenshot 2025-05-26 172705.jfif

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    2 hours ago, Disco InTurno said:

    I’m not as well versed in footy coaching/strategy as others but I feel like it’s been noted that the “tagging” isn’t really tagging and is instead a way to put Clarry with players/into spaces where he gets a lot of the ball and can shine, thus building back his form.

    Yesterday’s 31 disposals when he’s supposedly “tagging” seems like pretty strong evidence of this being the case.

    I literally said he didn’t tag against Sydney in the post you quoted.

    Tag/Run with - basically someone whose first instincts is to make sure someone else does not get the footy at a contest.

    There is no such thing as ‘tagging’ as meant back in the Simon Godfrey days. So it can mean ‘run with’ now.

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    2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    Sure, I just don't think that's our plan.

    Neither, which is why I am intimating in my posts that if his form doesn’t recover and/or he doesn’t evolve - he is going to be moved on.

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