On 28/03/2025 at 23:57, Lucifers Hero said:

LOL...so was mine ... meant to be a play on words ...

We seem to have our humour antennas out of sync lately ...

Hopefully Andy can find a software fix for this!

  On 01/04/2025 at 21:46, Demonland said:

What's today's new feature?

  On 01/04/2025 at 21:46, Demonland said:

What's today's new feature?

Number of viewers on each thread. I'm on 'Land everyday, and it's just showing up this morning for the first time for me. (I use Firefox on a MacBrook Pro.)

  On 01/04/2025 at 22:17, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Number of viewers on each thread. I'm on 'Land everyday, and it's just showing up this morning for the first time for me. (I use Firefox on a MacBrook Pro.)

I’m on phone and it’s also the first day I’ve seen the red box with “3 viewers” next to each thread on the main forum page.

  On 01/04/2025 at 22:17, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Number of viewers on each thread. I'm on 'Land everyday, and it's just showing up this morning for the first time for me. (I use Firefox on a MacBrook Pro.)

It's been there for a couple of days but was a green colour. The colour and in particular the text colour wasn't great on the dark theme so I changed it late last night.

  On 01/04/2025 at 22:33, titan_uranus said:

I’m on phone and it’s also the first day I’ve seen the red box with “3 viewers” next to each thread on the main forum page.

Also it just shows the number of signed up members. Who knows how many lurkers are online reading in the shadows. Non-registered members probably make up 80 to 90% of our users. People love to read the temperature of the room.

  On 01/04/2025 at 22:39, Demonland said:

Also it just shows the number of signed up members. Who knows how many lurkers are online reading in the shadows. Non-registered members probably make up 80 to 90% of our users. People love to read the temperature of the room.

. . . and then go and talk carp in other places.

  On 29/03/2025 at 01:51, DubDee said:

For some reason I can't post from my mobile. Everything else works fine

I use an iphone about 2 years old

Anyone else have this issue

If no-one helps me I'll assume you are all happy for me not to post as much 🤔

Still have this issue. I tried logging out and back in

Any ideas @Demonland ?

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:43, DubDee said:

Still have this issue. I tried logging out and back in

Any ideas @Demonland ?

Go to Settings > General > About and let me know what iOS software version you have. If it is below 16 you need to upgrade the software on your phone. You should probably do that anyway. If it doesn't offer an update, it should if it's only 2 years old, then the phone is considered at End of Life by Apple and the software is too old to work on this website. The current software version should be 18 something.

First things first though let me know what software version your phone has.

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:43, DubDee said:

Still have this issue. I tried logging out and back in

Any ideas @Demonland ?

The new software screens out poor quality posts. Try adding some facts or maybe some humour. 🤪

Edited April 2Apr 2 by Roost it far

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:43, DubDee said:

Still have this issue. I tried logging out and back in

Any ideas @Demonland ?

I will add that on older versions of iPhone and presumably other brands of phone with older not up to date software will let you view and read the website but if it is below a certain version it will not let you post. You click on the posting area and it just displays a white box with a circle.

Many old devices that won't update software will not just affect you posting on Demonland but eventually you will not be able to use many apps including banking and streaming services.

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:46, Demonland said:

Go to Settings > General > About and let me know what iOS software version you have. If it is below 16 you need to upgrade the software on your phone. You should probably do that anyway. If it doesn't offer an update, it should if it's only 2 years old, then the phone is considered at End of Life by Apple and the software is too old to work on this website. The current software version should be 18 something.

First things first though let me know what software version your phone has.

Thanks mate

Says I'm 16.2

I'm not big on upgrading the software as half the changes are usually annoying but happy to do it. Anything for DL

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:53, DubDee said:

Thanks mate

Says I'm 16.2

I'm not big on upgrading the software as half the changes are usually annoying but happy to do it. Anything for DL

I'm not responsible if you don't like the new features or have trouble adapting to changes in your phone's software. Upgrade at your own risk.

It’s helpful to know that version 16.2 doesn’t work. All the test phones I had access to were either up-to-date or running something close to the latest iOS and worked fine. Others were below version 16 (and didn’t work), but could be upgraded to 18 and then worked. And then there were the ancient ones—clearly unsupported and unable to upgrade at all. I didn’t have a device running a mid-16 version to test, so I couldn’t say which versions of 16 (if any) actually worked.

This issue turned out to be an unintended and previously unknown side effect of upgrading Demonland’s software. That said, the upgrade still had to happen—we’ve got to keep up with the times and adapt to how things evolve.

Just like our footy team. Too soon?

  On 02/04/2025 at 02:58, Demonland said:

I take no responsibility for you not liking the new features or adapting to change of the phone software. Upgrade at your own risk.

It is good to know that 16.2 doesn't work. All my test phones were either working or close to the latest software and worked. Or were just under 16 (not working) and was able to upgrade to 18 and work. Or were really old and obviously not working and then were not offered an upgrade as Apple no longer supported upgrades. I didn't have a phone to test in the 16s so couldn't tell what version of 16 if any worked.

This was an unintended and unknown to me side effect of the upgrade of Demonland's software. Having said that I still would have had to upgrade. We need to move with the times and changes in the way things are done. Just look at our footy team. Too soon?

I refuse to change to modern ways. Call me Goody!

Thanks Andy, I'll upgrade tonight.

Happy to help with your UAT ha

  On 30/03/2025 at 09:33, Demonland said:

The Chat will be returning this week for the podcast.

Just for the sake of everyone's mental health, I suggest you delay adding this functionality until after we've had a win.

Echoing that the emoji change is very discombobulating. My thumb keeps on waving above my mobile whenever I go to react to a post, as my brain processes the change in real time haha

  On 02/04/2025 at 03:22, DeelightfulPlay said:

Echoing that the emoji change is very discombobulating. My thumb keeps on waving above my mobile whenever I go to react to a post, as my brain processes the change in real time haha

What is the actual problem? The order of them? The amount? The type? Do I need to get rid of a few?

On a PC they open up horizontally but on mobile they open up vertically and sometimes you have to scroll up. Perhaps there are too many reactions.

Anyone having trouble posting (that is getting into the posting

  On 02/04/2025 at 03:16, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Just for the sake of everyone's mental health, I suggest you delay adding this functionality until after we've had a win.

Too late. We had the podcast the other night and the chat was back. Everyone was very polite.

  On 02/04/2025 at 03:32, Demonland said:

What is the actual problem? The order of them? The amount? The type? Do I need to get rid of a few?

On a PC they open up horizontally but on mobile they open up vertically and sometimes you have to scroll up. Perhaps there are too many reactions.

They're actually fine! Same amount of emojis etc, just the positive emojis are now listed first (at the bottom) and the negative last (at the top).

Probably better in the long run, as it avoids the accidental vomit hit when trying to just give a thumbs up!

  On 02/04/2025 at 04:54, DeelightfulPlay said:

They're actually fine! Same amount of emojis etc, just the positive emojis are now listed first (at the bottom) and the negative last (at the top).

Probably better in the long run, as it avoids the accidental vomit hit when trying to just give a thumbs up!

The new software update must have re-sorted the emoji reactions. I can’t recall though which way they were before.

  On 02/04/2025 at 03:00, DubDee said:

I refuse to change to modern ways. Call me Goody!

Thanks Andy, I'll upgrade tonight.

Happy to help with your UAT ha

It's the worst when they randomly change stuff. Unfortunately it's the only way to keep the device running smoothly ☹️

  On 02/04/2025 at 05:24, layzie said:

It's the worst when they randomly change stuff. Unfortunately it's the only way to keep the device running smoothly ☹️

True but in the latest iPhone software update from 17 to 18 they stuffed around with the mail app providing tabs for different categories and I was missing invoices that I had received and it was always defaulting to the Promotions tab which were emails I was definitely not interested in. At least they gave the option of switching back to the old way that the mail was displayed. It was change for changes sake. I am all for improving things but sometimes they drop the ball and no I am not talking about our football team now even though they are constantly dropping the ball.

Great work on the upgrade guys!!!

Being in IT - I understand what a mammoth task this is just not technically, but managing customer expectations!

One thing I have noticed is that “I think” the forum used to display the username of the last person who posted in that thread, but now it seems to always display the forum name, am I mistaken? It’s not a big problem either way.

  On 02/04/2025 at 06:00, Rossmillan said:

Great work on the upgrade guys!!!

Being in IT - I understand what a mammoth task this is just not technically, but managing customer expectations!

One thing I have noticed is that “I think” the forum used to display the username of the last person who posted in that thread, but now it seems to always display the forum name, am I mistaken? It’s not a big problem either way.

No, it used to look like this (see below). I had to code this widget from scratch because the default “out of the box” option provided by the software didn’t suit my needs.

By default, the widget displays the last X number of posts on the forum. So, if it’s set to show the latest 15 posts and they all happen to be from the same thread, that’s all it will show—15 posts from that one thread. But since this is on the homepage, I want users to see a variety of current discussions, not just activity from one thread.

There’s another option that displays the last X number of threads that have been posted in, which is closer to what I want—even if one of those threads has had 15 recent replies. The issue with this mode is that it shows the profile picture and name of the thread starter, not the most recent poster. That’s a problem because some threads run for months or even years, and the original poster might not be active anymore. I want the homepage to reflect current activity, so I think the last poster should be featured instead.

On the old version of the software, I bought a custom widget and made a few tweaks to get it looking and working the way I liked. Unfortunately, that custom code wasn’t compatible with the new software.

That's where ChatGPT came in. It understands the structure of this platform and helped me rebuild the widget from the ground up. After a lot of trial and error, I now have a working version that does exactly what I want.

Say what you will about AI, but it's been invaluable for customizing the site beyond the limitations of “out of the box” tools. I have a working knowledge of coding—I can usually understand what code is doing and make tweaks if I know what the end result should look like—but AI has taken things to a whole new level. Tasks that used to take me hours, days, or even months (and sometimes years) now take minutes (seconds actually). It’s capable of doing things I never thought possible. I can just describe what I want, feed in the code, and it quickly delivers a solution. If it doesn’t work or look quite right, I tweak and try again—and it never gets frustrated or impatient, which makes the process much easier.

I am always very polite to my AI because I don't want it to kill me when it takes over the world.

Here is what the widget (that's what they're called) looked like in the old version of the software. Originally it had the persons name in the coding but it added an extra line which I thought was a waste of screen real estate and as it already featured the poster's profile picture I thought it was redundant. The version with the name never made it to the live site.

  On 02/04/2025 at 06:41, Demonland said:

No, it used to look like this (see below). I had to code this widget from scratch because the default “out of the box” option provided by the software didn’t suit my needs.

By default, the widget displays the last X number of posts on the forum. So, if it’s set to show the latest 15 posts and they all happen to be from the same thread, that’s all it will show—15 posts from that one thread. But since this is on the homepage, I want users to see a variety of current discussions, not just activity from one thread.

There’s another option that displays the last X number of threads that have been posted in, which is closer to what I want—even if one of those threads has had 15 recent replies. The issue with this mode is that it shows the profile picture and name of the thread starter, not the most recent poster. That’s a problem because some threads run for months or even years, and the original poster might not be active anymore. I want the homepage to reflect current activity, so I think the last poster should be featured instead.

On the old version of the software, I bought a custom widget and made a few tweaks to get it looking and working the way I liked. Unfortunately, that custom code wasn’t compatible with the new software.

That's where ChatGPT came in. It understands the structure of this platform and helped me rebuild the widget from the ground up. After a lot of trial and error, I now have a working version that does exactly what I want.

Say what you will about AI, but it's been invaluable for customizing the site beyond the limitations of “out of the box” tools. I have a working knowledge of coding—I can usually understand what code is doing and make tweaks if I know what the end result should look like—but AI has taken things to a whole new level. Tasks that used to take me hours, days, or even months (and sometimes years) now take minutes (seconds actually). It’s capable of doing things I never thought possible. I can just describe what I want, feed in the code, and it quickly delivers a solution. If it doesn’t work or look quite right, I tweak and try again—and it never gets frustrated or impatient, which makes the process much easier.

I am always very polite to my AI because I don't want it to kill me when it takes over the world.

Here is what the widget (that's what they're called) looked like in the old version of the software. Originally it had the persons name in the coding but it added an extra line which I thought was a waste of screen real estate and as it already featured the poster's profile picture I thought it was redundant. The version with the name never made it to the live site.

Thanks for the super detailed reply.

i've found that pressing <ctrl><enter> at the same time enacts the 'submit reply' button much as <tab> then <enter> used to do