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Melbourne v Hawthorn (Round 9, 2025)

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Key Team Stats

Stats in bold were won by Melbourne.

Stat

For

Against

Diff

AFL

Disposal Efficiency

Disposal Efficiency

76.6

79.0

-2.4

72.8

Kicking Efficiency

69.3

72.2

-2.9

66.5

Territory/Attack

Time In Forward Half

49.9

50.1

-0.2

Inside 50s

48

50

-2

Shots At Goal

23

27

-4

Scores Per Inside 50

43.8

52.0

-8.2

45.2

Goals Per Inside 50

14.6

26.0

-11.4

24.1

Marks Inside 50

8

14

-6

Transition

Chain To Score %

18.3

23.2

-5.0

21.1

Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %

11.4

27.5

-16.1

22.8

Defensive 50 To Score %

5.7

15.0

-9.3

9.5

Defensive Half To Forward 50 %

24.2

31.5

-7.3

31.4

Defensive Half To Score %

10.6

19.2

-8.6

13.1

Contest

Contested Possessions

129

117

+12

Ground Ball Gets

78

77

+1

Post Clearance Contested Poss

78

82

-4

Post Clearance Ground Ball Gets

51

54

-3

Contested Marks

7

10

-3

Clearance

Total Clearances

38

27

+11

Centre Clearances

11

8

+3

Stoppage Clearances

27

19

+8

First Possessions

43

27

+16

First Possession To Clearance %

83.7

81.5

+2.2

75.3

Defense

Intercepts

66

73

-7

Intercept Marks

14

19

-5

Tackles

61

44

+17

Tackles Inside 50

5

8

-3

Def One On One Loss %

0.0

8.3

-8.3

26.2

Ruck

Hitouts

42

27

+15

Hitouts To Advantage

13

8

+5

Transition stats measure how often chains result in a score or an inside 50. Chains include all kick-in chains, all clearances, and intercepts with at least one disposal in the chain.

  • Chain To Score %: proportion of all chains that resulted in a score.

  • Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in an inside 50.

  • Defensive 50 To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in a score.

  • Defensive Half To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in an inside 50.

  • Defensive Half To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in a score.

Player Ratings

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Match

TOG

Max Gawn

0.9

4.7

5.0

6.2

16.8

86%

Harvey Langford

5.5

7.5

2.3

0.7

16.0

82%

Kysaiah Pickett

4.5

2.0

−0.8

8.4

14.0

87%

Xavier Lindsay

2.2

4.1

4.4

2.1

12.8

81%

Trent Rivers

−0.1

2.7

5.8

4.2

12.6

80%

Steven May

3.1

3.6

0.7

4.9

12.3

100%

Christian Petracca

4.9

4.7

1.0

0.8

11.4

88%

Clayton Oliver

4.1

3.0

1.8

2.1

11.0

79%

Caleb Windsor

3.6

1.7

3.2

0.8

9.3

76%

Jake Bowey

2.8

2.1

2.1

1.1

8.0

80%

Christian Salem

1.9

1.2

1.7

2.4

7.1

83%

Harry Sharp

1.1

1.3

4.2

0.3

6.8

72%

Daniel Turner

2.4

0.8

1.5

1.7

6.3

80%

Kade Chandler

−0.6

7.0

−0.4

0.0

5.9

89%

Ed Langdon

0.8

2.8

2.2

0.0

5.7

80%

Tom McDonald

1.8

−1.0

0.9

3.8

5.5

94%

Judd McVee

−1.0

3.0

0.7

2.2

5.0

85%

Jacob van Rooyen

−1.1

−0.2

4.6

0.6

3.9

81%

Charlie Spargo

0.3

0.1

2.6

0.7

3.7

73%

Tom Sparrow

1.3

−0.6

0.5

0.2

1.3

83%

Koltyn Tholstrup

0.0

0.0

0.3

0.6

0.9

25%

Bayley Fritsch

−1.2

−0.1

−1.1

−0.3

−2.6

72%

Matthew Jefferson

0.0

−2.1

−1.3

0.0

−3.5

44%

Contested Possessions

For

Against

Diff

Melbourne's Defensive 50

Hard Ball Get

4

5

-1

Loose Ball Get

12

9

+3

Contested Mark

0

1

-1

Ruck Hard Ball Get

1

0

+1

Gather From Hitout

2

1

+1

Contested Knock On

3

1

+2

Free For

4

3

+1

Total

26

20

+6

Melbourne's Forward 50

Hard Ball Get

3

0

+3

Loose Ball Get

7

10

-3

Contested Mark

2

3

-1

Gather From Hitout

2

0

+2

Contested Knock On

2

0

+2

Free For

3

5

-2

Total

19

18

+1

Post clearance

Hard Ball Get

12

9

+3

Loose Ball Get

39

45

-6

Contested Mark

7

10

-3

Contested Knock On

6

2

+4

Free For

14

16

-2

Total

78

82

-4

Pre clearance

Hard Ball Get

10

9

+1

Loose Ball Get

17

14

+3

Ruck Hard Ball Get

6

0

+6

Gather From Hitout

10

7

+3

Contested Knock On

3

2

+1

Free For

5

3

+2

Total

51

35

+16

  • Official data on pre- and post-clearance contested possessions are not available. These have been estimated by Wheelo Ratings and should be indicative.

  • Ground ball gets are inclusive of hard ball gets and loose ball gets.

  • 'Free For' does not include free kicks to advantage or free kicks while in possession of the ball as these are not counted as contested possessions.

Expected scores

xScore

Score

xWin %

xMargin

Margin

Swing

Melbourne

70.9

56

20%

Hawthorn

85.3

91

80%

+14.5

+35

+20.5

Shots

Score

Accuracy

xScore

+/-

xSc. /
Shot

Shot
Rating

Overall

Melbourne

23

7.13 55

30.4%

69.9

−14.9

3.04

−0.65

Hawthorn

27

13.12 90

48.1%

85.3

+4.7

3.16

+0.17

General Play

Melbourne

9

2.5 17

22.2%

22.9

−5.9

2.54

−0.65

Hawthorn

14

6.6 42

42.9%

42.4

−0.4

3.03

−0.03

Set Position

Melbourne

14

5.8 38

35.7%

47.0

−9.0

3.36

−0.64

Hawthorn

13

7.6 48

53.8%

43.0

+5.0

3.31

+0.39

  • xWin %: win probability based on expected scores.

  • Swing: difference between expected margin and actual margin.

  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.

  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.

  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.

  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

Territory (time in zones)

Region

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Match

Season

Half

Forward

50%

64%

48%

37%

50%

51%

Defensive

50%

36%

52%

63%

50%

49%

Region

Forward 50

23%

32%

23%

15%

23%

24%

Attacking Midfield

26%

33%

25%

22%

27%

27%

Defensive Midfield

28%

23%

27%

27%

26%

26%

Defensive 50

22%

13%

24%

36%

24%

24%

Source: Calculated by Wheelo Ratings.

Score Sources

Summary

Score Source

Score

Against

Diff

Kick-in

0.0 0

1.1 7

-7

Centre Bounce

0.1 1

2.1 13

-12

Stoppage (Other)

1.3 9

4.3 27

-18

Turnover

6.10 46

6.8 44

+2

Score Source

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

Kick-in

0

3.7

7

5.1

Centre Bounce

1

13.4

13

14.3

Stoppage (Other)

9

16.3

27

24.8

Turnover

46

39.8

44

48.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Region

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

Defensive 50

7

10.7

26

17.6

Defensive midfield

15

14.0

28

22.2

Centre bounce

1

13.4

13

14.3

Attacking midfield

17

20.6

15

22.9

Forward 50

16

14.6

9

15.2

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Points from defensive half

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

22

24.7

54

39.8

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Centre Bounce Attendances

CBAs

CBA %

2025 %

2024 %

Clayton Oliver

20

83%

73.1%

70.7%

Max Gawn

19

79%

85.0%

85.0%

Christian Petracca

17

71%

65.6%

55.8%

Kysaiah Pickett

17

71%

62.7%

33.0%

Trent Rivers

13

54%

15.8%

29.9%

Harvey Langford

5

21%

25.5%

Jacob van Rooyen

5

21%

12.0%

17.8%

Tom Sparrow

0

0%

15.4%

37.7%

Ed Langdon

0

0%

8.1%

0.7%

Kade Chandler

0

0%

2.8%

0.0%

Daniel Turner

0

0%

0.7%

0.3%

Charlie Spargo

0

0%

0.0%

4.2%

Christian Salem

0

0%

0.0%

12.3%

Judd McVee

0

0%

0.0%

6.3%

Koltyn Tholstrup

0

0%

0.0%

5.7%

Jack Viney

71.7%

69.1%

Tom Fullarton

17.2%

Aidan Johnson

10.9%

Jake Melksham

0.7%

0.0%

Harrison Petty

0.4%

7.5%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

Ruck
Contests

RC %

2025 %

2024 %

Max Gawn

67

81%

81.7%

81.1%

Jacob van Rooyen

16

19%

12.5%

17.6%

Daniel Turner

0

0%

0.9%

3.1%

Clayton Oliver

0

0%

0.1%

0.0%

Tom Fullarton

20.5%

Aidan Johnson

19.7%

Harrison Petty

0.7%

7.9%

Hitouts

Ruck
Contests

Hitouts

To
Adv.

To Adv. %
(2025)

To Adv. %
(2024)

Melbourne

Max Gawn

67

33

10

28.1%

27.9%

Jacob van Rooyen

16

9

3

37.5%

24.7%

Daniel Turner

0

0

0

50.4%

Harrison Petty

100.0%

24.4%

Tom Fullarton

43.8%

Aidan Johnson

30.0%

Opposition

Lloyd Meek

65

24

7

Mabior Chol

5

2

1

Josh Weddle

10

1

0

Henry Hustwaite

2

0

0

James Worpel

1

0

0

 

Only Pickett, Gawn, Rivers and May rated above 4.0 in the final quarter. Petracca only rated 1.8 for the entire second half. Thanks Wheelo.

Round 9, 2025 Optus Stadium - Eagles vs Demons

The Captain does it again. Without him, Langford and the continual holding up of our backline i reckon we would have been smashed by 80+ points today.

Looking at it from a glass half full, are we on the cusp and about to turn things around? Unless we have almost all of our best 22 players on the park most weeks... highly unlikely. The same could be said of most teams but we are just too far off our best once we drop a few key players. The depth just isn't there.

And the forward line plus methods going in. Enough has been said about those woes to write a Demonic version of Tolstoy's War & Peace.

Our Team Rating over 6% off that of our average 2024 Team Rating against a pretty middle of the rung to above average side (imo) is a pretty horrid outcome.

Their top 6 well ahead of ours and their bottom 6 trumping ours as well.

We will need all of Vines, Melk & Petty back in to have any chance of avoiding a massacre against the Lions next week and posting a respectable score.

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Player & Team Ratings - Demons

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Player & Team Ratings - Hawks

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Combined Player Ratings

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Stats courtesy of footywire.com and wheeloratings.com

Edited by Demon Dynasty

 

Melbourne v Hawthorn (Round 9, 2025)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20250903

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter

For

Agn

Diff

1

180

164

+16

2

167

184

-17

3

170

153

+17

4

186

186

0

Match

176

172

+4

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player

Pressure
Acts

Pressure
Points

Season
Average

Kysaiah Pickett

25

66

38.7

Harry Sharp

21

47

21.0

Christian Petracca

19

44

35.8

Xavier Lindsay

19

37

27.4

Clayton Oliver

15

34

51.2

Tom Sparrow

18

34

37.7

Trent Rivers

16

33

26.7

Caleb Windsor

15

33

24.4

Harvey Langford

16

31

19.0

Bayley Fritsch

13

29

20.8

Ed Langdon

12

28

29.0

Kade Chandler

13

27

36.3

Max Gawn

10

26

19.0

Charlie Spargo

11

24

27.6

Jacob van Rooyen

11

24

21.5

Jake Bowey

13

23

30.3

Koltyn Tholstrup

8

19

26.2

Judd McVee

9

19

19.3

Tom McDonald

10

18

15.2

Steven May

8

16

10.2

Daniel Turner

7

14

15.8

Christian Salem

6

12

19.1

Matthew Jefferson

4

7

12.0

Source: Herald Sun

11 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Round 9, 2025 Optus Stadium - Eagles vs Demons

The Captain does it again. Without him, Langford and the continual holding up of our backline i reckon we would have been smashed by 80+ points today.

Looking at it from a glass half full, are we on the cusp and about to turn things around? Unless we have almost all of our best 22 players on the park most weeks... highly unlikely. The same could be said of most teams but we are just too far off our best once we drop a few key players. The depth just isn't there.

And the forward line plus methods going in. Enough has been said about those woes to write a Demonic version of Tolstoy's War & Peace.

Our Team Rating over 6% off that of our average 2024 Team Rating against a pretty middle of the rung to above average side (imo) is a pretty horrid outcome.

Their top 6 well ahead of ours and their bottom 6 trumping ours as well.

We will need all of Vines, Melk & Petty back in to have any chance of avoiding a massacre against the Lions next week and posting a respectable score.

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Player & Team Ratings - Demons

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Player & Team Ratings - Hawks

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Combined Player Ratings

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Thanks DD even though they had the three top rated players and six of the top eight which probably echoes their great last quarter we were pretty even across the board barring our bottom six. We fell away badly in the last fifteen minutes after leading all major kpi’s for the rest of the game. No doubt our poor kicking saps a lot of energy and that really showed when they slammed on the first three goals in the last and got their tails up.

11 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Round 9, 2025 Optus Stadium - Eagles vs Demons

The Captain does it again. Without him, Langford and the continual holding up of our backline i reckon we would have been smashed by 80+ points today.

Looking at it from a glass half full, are we on the cusp and about to turn things around? Unless we have almost all of our best 22 players on the park most weeks... highly unlikely. The same could be said of most teams but we are just too far off our best once we drop a few key players. The depth just isn't there.

And the forward line plus methods going in. Enough has been said about those woes to write a Demonic version of Tolstoy's War & Peace.

Our Team Rating over 6% off that of our average 2024 Team Rating against a pretty middle of the rung to above average side (imo) is a pretty horrid outcome.

Their top 6 well ahead of ours and their bottom 6 trumping ours as well.

We will need all of Vines, Melk & Petty back in to have any chance of avoiding a massacre against the Lions next week and posting a respectable score.

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Player & Team Ratings - Demons

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Player & Team Ratings - Hawks

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Combined Player Ratings

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Stats courtesy of footywire.com and wheeloratings.com


4 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD even though they had the three top rated players and six of the top eight which probably echoes their great last quarter we were pretty even across the board barring our bottom six. We fell away badly in the last fifteen minutes after leading all major kpi’s for the rest of the game. No doubt our poor kicking saps a lot of energy and that really showed when they slammed on the first three goals in the last and got their tails up.

It was the conplete antithesis of a forward half master class DZ. We are our own worst enemy.

Our matches against anyone but the worst rated teams in the conp are awfully predictable now.

Match or better the oppo in almost all key areas of the game until three quarter time or thereabouts.

Almost all players, bar a few in rare patches, will butcher the use of the ball coming inside 50, bomb the ball in or kick it in in panic. The ball will either rebound straight out and the oppo will transition quite easily from arc to arc for a shot at goal. Or if we do make a rare connection, we will miss about 2/3rds of our shots at goal.

By the time the 4th quarter comes around we are almost spent and can't get anything going as we watch the oppo run amok out of the middle and off HB kicking a number of relatively easy goals for the sealer (or worse if we've blown up earlier in the match against the top rated clubs).

Pretty much that in a nut shell (with a few variations and some success against shizen teams) since the 2022 finals. Nearly 2.5 seasons now.

Edited by Demon Dynasty

Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 9, 2025 vs H&A Season 2024

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Melbourne v Brisbane (Round 10, 2025)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20251008

Key Team Stats

Stats in bold were won by Melbourne.

Stat

For

Against

Diff

AFL

Disposal Efficiency

Disposal Efficiency

71.4

75.2

-3.8

72.8

Kicking Efficiency

65.8

65.1

+0.7

66.2

Territory/Attack

Time In Forward Half

54.0

46.0

+8.1

Inside 50s

58

53

+5

Shots At Goal

33

29

+4

Scores Per Inside 50

50.0

43.4

+6.6

45.1

Goals Per Inside 50

24.1

24.5

-0.4

23.9

Marks Inside 50

16

11

+5

Transition

Chain To Score %

25.0

20.7

+4.3

21.0

Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %

27.0

31.7

-4.7

23.0

Defensive 50 To Score %

10.8

12.2

-1.4

9.5

Defensive Half To Forward 50 %

27.9

41.2

-13.4

31.4

Defensive Half To Score %

13.1

16.5

-3.3

13.0

Contest

Contested Possessions

135

117

+18

Ground Ball Gets

96

97

-1

Post Clearance Contested Poss

78

66

+12

Post Clearance Ground Ball Gets

58

53

+5

Contested Marks

11

5

+6

Clearance

Total Clearances

44

39

+5

Centre Clearances

18

11

+7

Stoppage Clearances

26

28

-2

First Possessions

47

41

+6

First Possession To Clearance %

80.9

80.5

+0.4

75.4

Defense

Intercepts

64

60

+4

Intercept Marks

20

16

+4

Tackles

41

39

+2

Tackles Inside 50

9

4

+5

Def One On One Loss %

11.1

11.1

+0.0

26.0

Ruck

Hitouts

53

17

+36

Hitouts To Advantage

9

2

+7

Transition stats measure how often chains result in a score or an inside 50. Chains include all kick-in chains, all clearances, and intercepts with at least one disposal in the chain.

  • Chain To Score %: proportion of all chains that resulted in a score.

  • Defensive 50 To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in an inside 50.

  • Defensive 50 To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive 50 that resulted in a score.

  • Defensive Half To Forward 50 %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in an inside 50.

  • Defensive Half To Score %: proportion of all chains starting in the defensive half that resulted in a score.

Player Ratings

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Match

TOG

Trent Rivers

3.2

8.7

6.4

3.0

21.3

66%

Clayton Oliver

4.3

7.2

6.6

2.4

20.5

85%

Christian Petracca

6.0

5.2

4.1

1.9

17.2

87%

Max Gawn

7.1

2.8

1.8

4.3

16.0

87%

Jake Melksham

2.3

2.6

5.8

4.9

15.6

86%

Daniel Turner

4.2

3.5

5.7

2.1

15.5

79%

Jake Bowey

2.5

6.2

4.9

1.2

14.8

83%

Kysaiah Pickett

6.0

2.5

7.0

−2.1

13.4

84%

Christian Salem

2.9

3.4

1.7

4.1

12.1

87%

Tom McDonald

3.8

2.1

3.5

0.0

9.4

100%

Kade Chandler

1.4

3.6

3.7

0.0

8.6

88%

Judd McVee

0.8

4.1

0.8

2.2

7.9

87%

Aidan Johnson

1.8

0.7

1.7

3.6

7.8

56%

Tom Sparrow

−0.2

1.4

2.3

4.2

7.7

83%

Ed Langdon

1.6

1.9

1.7

2.3

7.5

78%

Bayley Fritsch

0.0

0.0

1.2

5.8

7.0

37%

Steven May

1.1

1.6

0.9

2.9

6.5

96%

Charlie Spargo

3.7

−1.5

0.7

2.9

5.8

82%

Xavier Lindsay

0.4

1.4

2.4

0.1

4.3

80%

Harvey Langford

−0.1

0.6

1.0

0.9

2.4

79%

Caleb Windsor

1.2

−1.4

0.2

0.2

0.2

68%

Harry Sharp

−0.6

0.9

−1.5

0.0

−1.2

52%

Harrison Petty

−3.4

0.0

0.9

1.0

−1.5

71%

Contested Possessions

For

Against

Diff

Melbourne's Defensive 50

Hard Ball Get

5

5

0

Loose Ball Get

10

10

0

Ruck Hard Ball Get

3

0

+3

Free For

3

2

+1

Total

21

17

+4

Melbourne's Forward 50

Hard Ball Get

6

1

+5

Loose Ball Get

14

14

0

Contested Mark

3

3

0

Ruck Hard Ball Get

1

0

+1

Gather From Hitout

2

0

+2

Contested Knock On

1

1

0

Free For

0

2

-2

Total

27

21

+6

Post clearance

Hard Ball Get

13

9

+4

Loose Ball Get

45

44

+1

Contested Mark

11

5

+6

Contested Knock On

1

1

0

Free For

8

7

+1

Total

78

66

+12

Pre clearance

Hard Ball Get

11

8

+3

Loose Ball Get

27

36

-9

Ruck Hard Ball Get

7

0

+7

Gather From Hitout

7

2

+5

Contested Knock On

2

2

0

Free For

3

3

0

Total

57

51

+6

  • Official data on pre- and post-clearance contested possessions are not available. These have been estimated by Wheelo Ratings and should be indicative.

  • Ground ball gets are inclusive of hard ball gets and loose ball gets.

  • 'Free For' does not include free kicks to advantage or free kicks while in possession of the ball as these are not counted as contested possessions.

Expected scores

xScore

Score

xWin %

xMargin

Margin

Swing

Melbourne

113.2

99

92%

+27.3

+11

Brisbane

85.9

88

8%

+16.3

Shots

Score

Accuracy

xScore

+/-

xSc. /
Shot

Shot
Rating

Overall

Melbourne

33

14.13 97

42.4%

112.2

−15.2

3.40

−0.46

Brisbane

29

13.9 87

44.8%

85.9

+1.1

2.96

+0.04

General Play

Melbourne

16

6.6 42

37.5%

46.4

−4.4

2.90

−0.27

Brisbane

16

6.7 43

37.5%

42.2

+0.8

2.63

+0.05

Set Position

Melbourne

17

8.7 55

47.1%

65.8

−10.8

3.87

−0.64

Brisbane

13

7.2 44

53.8%

43.7

+0.3

3.37

+0.02

  • xWin %: win probability based on expected scores.

  • Swing: difference between expected margin and actual margin.

  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.

  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.

  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.

  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

Territory (time in zones)

Region

Q1

Q2

Q3

Q4

Match

Season

Half

Forward

51%

51%

44%

71%

54%

51%

Defensive

49%

49%

56%

29%

46%

49%

Region

Forward 50

28%

21%

23%

42%

28%

24%

Attacking Midfield

23%

29%

21%

29%

26%

27%

Defensive Midfield

24%

31%

28%

14%

24%

26%

Defensive 50

25%

19%

27%

16%

22%

23%

Source: Calculated by Wheelo Ratings.

Score Sources

Summary

Score Source

Score

Against

Diff

Kick-in

0.1 1

1.0 6

-5

Centre Bounce

1.3 9

2.2 14

-5

Stoppage (Other)

4.3 27

3.2 20

+7

Turnover

9.8 62

7.6 48

+14

Score Source

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

Kick-in

1

3.4

6

5.2

Centre Bounce

9

13.0

14

14.3

Stoppage (Other)

27

17.4

20

24.3

Turnover

62

42.0

48

48.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Region

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

Defensive 50

9

10.5

25

18.3

Defensive midfield

19

14.5

33

23.3

Centre bounce

9

13.0

14

14.3

Attacking midfield

33

21.8

3

20.9

Forward 50

29

16.0

13

15.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Points from defensive half

For

Against

Match

Season

Match

Season *

28

25.0

58

41.6

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Centre Bounce Attendances

CBAs

CBA %

2025 %

2024 %

Christian Petracca

29

94%

68.7%

55.8%

Max Gawn

26

84%

84.9%

85.0%

Clayton Oliver

25

81%

74.1%

70.7%

Kysaiah Pickett

22

71%

64.1%

33.0%

Trent Rivers

16

52%

19.8%

29.9%

Aidan Johnson

5

16%

12.8%

Harvey Langford

1

3%

22.7%

Tom Sparrow

0

0%

13.7%

37.7%

Ed Langdon

0

0%

7.2%

0.7%

Kade Chandler

0

0%

2.5%

0.0%

Daniel Turner

0

0%

0.6%

0.3%

Jake Melksham

0

0%

0.6%

0.0%

Harrison Petty

0

0%

0.4%

7.5%

Charlie Spargo

0

0%

0.0%

4.2%

Christian Salem

0

0%

0.0%

12.3%

Judd McVee

0

0%

0.0%

6.3%

Jack Viney

71.7%

69.1%

Tom Fullarton

17.2%

Jacob van Rooyen

12.0%

17.8%

Koltyn Tholstrup

0.0%

5.7%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

Ruck
Contests

RC %

2025 %

2024 %

Max Gawn

80

83%

81.9%

81.1%

Aidan Johnson

16

17%

18.6%

Daniel Turner

0

0%

0.8%

3.1%

Harrison Petty

0

0%

0.6%

7.9%

Clayton Oliver

0

0%

0.1%

0.0%

Tom Fullarton

20.5%

Jacob van Rooyen

12.5%

17.6%

Hitouts

Ruck
Contests

Hitouts

To
Adv.

To Adv. %
(2025)

To Adv. %
(2024)

Melbourne

Max Gawn

80

46

8

26.8%

27.9%

Aidan Johnson

16

7

1

23.5%

Harrison Petty

0

0

0

100.0%

24.4%

Daniel Turner

0

0

0

50.4%

Tom Fullarton

43.8%

Jacob van Rooyen

37.5%

24.7%

Opposition

Darcy Fort

80

15

2

Darcy Gardiner

1

1

0

Eric Hipwood

15

1

0

 

Great work Wheelo ty...

Some big advantage wins in this match. In particular..

Scores from turnover, scores from stoppage.

No matter how small, to win this one is a great sign also...

First Possession To Clearance %

80.9

80.5

+0.4

75.4

I believe our average here for the season has been around the 75% mark or so. The AFL average is around 80 or thereabouts. That's a great result against quality oppo.

Noting a much higher CB attendance from Tracc and Rivers compared to their season averages. And to a lessor extent, Clarry and Kozz. Not sure what that means but it tells me we asked for more from those four and that's what we got. And most importantly we got the W.


41 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Great work Wheelo ty...

Some big advantage wins in this match. In particular..

Scores from turnover, scores from stoppage.

No matter how small, to win this one is a great sign also...

First Possession To Clearance %

80.9

80.5

+0.4

75.4

I believe our average here for the season has been around the 75% mark or so. The AFL average is around 80 or thereabouts. That's a great result against quality oppo.

Noting a much higher CB attendance from Tracc and Rivers compared to their season averages. And to a lessor extent, Clarry and Kozz. Not sure what that means but it tells me we asked for more from those four and that's what we got. And most importantly we got the W.

Melbourne's first five games: 60.8%, 70.0%, 65.6%, 66.7%, 72.7%
Melbourne's last five games: 82.5%, 82.1%, 77.8%, 83.7%, 80.9%

Season average is 74.4% (AFL average 75.5%) which puts us in 14th, but over the last five games we're averaging 81.2% and second best in the AFL!

The biggest individual improvers are Petracca (58% to 83%), Viney (64% to 92%) and Gawn (58% to 85%), with Pickett getting first possession more often while maintaining a high conversion.

Here are the players with 20+ first possessions this season:

1st Poss

Clr

%

Christian Petracca

Rounds 1-5

19

11

57.9%

Rounds 6-10

36

30

83.3%

Clayton Oliver

Rounds 1-5

53

35

66.0%

Rounds 6-10

28

20

71.4%

Harvey Langford

Rounds 1-5

14

11

78.6%

Rounds 6-10

8

7

87.5%

Jack Viney

Rounds 1-5

22

14

63.6%

Rounds 6-10

12

11

91.7%

Kysaiah Pickett

Rounds 1-5

5

5

100.0%

Rounds 6-10

20

17

85.0%

Max Gawn

Rounds 1-5

40

23

57.5%

Rounds 6-10

52

44

84.6%

Trent Rivers

Rounds 1-5

6

5

83.3%

Rounds 6-10

17

13

76.5%

Round 10, 2025 GABBA - Lions vs Demons

Upset of the season yes?

That's probably our finest win since we put together two on the trot against the Crows and Power in consecutive weeks in Adelaide in 2024.

Our Team Rating just below theirs by 2%. Our Top 6 not quite at their level where they took the chocies by nearly 7%. However, it was our bottom 6 this time around, where we won the ratings battle by 29%.

Big Maxy does it yet again, just ahead of Kozzy. Great games from both imv and Kozzy's second highest Player Rating for the season behind his outstanding game vs Freo in Rnd 6 (5.55).

Tracc beating his 2024 form in two of the last three weeks. Is he finally over the recovery / AFL fitness - form hump?

Clarry just pipping Neale in the head to head stakes! A win's a win. I don't think there was a tight clamp down here though as both players posted very respectable ratings and both finished in their respective top 5 players (5th x 2!).

Melky a very welcome return. Amazing what a difference an injection of class, experience and genuine forward craft can have on a team and the result. Well managed by Goodwin & Co. A big tick here

What happened to Windsor in this game. I didn't think he was stone motherless last but he's posted the worst Player Rating. Do i need to re-check my numbers maybe? What do others think of his game? Carrying a niggle or something?

Vines in for Sharp or Spargo next week?

Player & Team Ratings - Demons

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Player & Team Ratings - Lions

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Combined Player Ratings

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Stats courtesy of footywire.com and wheeloratings.com

Edited by Demon Dynasty

Most would agree that's as balanced of a team we've had out on the field all year...

The most interesting stat for mine is Petracca 94 percent of cba. Huge bump. Clearly a statement. He fumbled a bit but he was fantastic and looked incredibly fiit Oliver high. Pickett high. Rivers got lots of looks and was effective (player rating BOG). We are just a chance to beat anyone with cp5 being in the centre.

So how does JV make this centre square balance better. Maybe Oliver should get the tagging role again, it makes him accountable and he's actually really good at it. He didnt give a free kick away and totally blanked Neale's effectiveness. Oliver had 5. Neale had 4. He kept lNewcombe to 19 touches last week. Who will get Heeney. Warner is tough to tag, he's a bit like Trac.

Edited by Jjrogan

Melbourne v Brisbane (Round 10, 2025)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20251008

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter

For

Agn

Diff

1

165

181

-16

2

163

167

-4

3

173

176

-3

4

155

148

+7

Match

165

169

-4

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player

Pressure
Acts

Pressure
Points

Season
Average

Clayton Oliver

36

74

53.8

Kysaiah Pickett

24

48

40.0

Tom Sparrow

20

46

38.5

Christian Petracca

23

45

36.7

Ed Langdon

21

38

29.9

Harvey Langford

18

37

21.0

Aidan Johnson

14

33

35.7

Trent Rivers

14

28

26.8

Charlie Spargo

11

25

27.2

Caleb Windsor

13

25

24.5

Jake Melksham

9

23

20.0

Jake Bowey

11

18

29.1

Xavier Lindsay

8

18

26.3

Harry Sharp

10

16

20.5

Tom McDonald

8

16

15.3

Daniel Turner

7

15

15.7

Max Gawn

8

14

18.5

Harrison Petty

7

14

18.4

Judd McVee

7

12

17.5

Bayley Fritsch

5

11

19.7

Kade Chandler

5

10

33.7

Christian Salem

6

10

18.2

Steven May

3

8

9.9

Source: Herald Sun

Edited by WheeloRatings

Thanks Wheelo.

But, what happened to the old Kicks, Handball, Total Disposal, Goals, Points etc stats?

Kinda suits my ADHD aging brain 🤓🥹


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15 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

Thanks Wheelo.

But, what happened to the old Kicks, Handball, Total Disposal, Goals, Points etc stats?

Kinda suits my ADHD aging brain 🤓🥹

For ultra old school, it's still 2004 go to afl.com:

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1 hour ago, WheeloRatings said:

Melbourne v Brisbane (Round 10, 2025)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20251008

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter

For

Agn

Diff

1

165

181

-16

2

163

167

-4

3

173

176

-3

4

155

148

+7

Match

165

169

-4

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player

Pressure
Acts

Pressure
Points

Season
Average

Clayton Oliver

36

74

53.8

Kysaiah Pickett

24

48

40.0

Tom Sparrow

20

46

38.5

Christian Petracca

23

45

36.7

Ed Langdon

21

38

29.9

Harvey Langford

18

37

21.0

Aidan Johnson

14

33

35.7

Trent Rivers

14

28

26.8

Charlie Spargo

11

25

27.2

Caleb Windsor

13

25

24.5

Jake Melksham

9

23

20.0

Jake Bowey

11

18

29.1

Xavier Lindsay

8

18

26.3

Harry Sharp

10

16

20.5

Tom McDonald

8

16

15.3

Daniel Turner

7

15

15.7

Max Gawn

8

14

18.5

Harrison Petty

7

14

18.4

Judd McVee

7

12

17.5

Bayley Fritsch

5

11

19.7

Kade Chandler

5

10

33.7

Christian Salem

6

10

18.2

Steven May

3

8

9.9

Source: Herald Sun

Those pressure ratings are kind of sour... below AFL average again. it probably explains why Lions were able to get 60+ points from defensive half.

13 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Those pressure ratings are kind of sour... below AFL average again. it probably explains why Lions were able to get 60+ points from defensive half.

Seemed like a lot of the time the ball was moving so quickly pressure from either side was difficult to apply. When in and around a contest, our pressure ‘seemed’ pretty good.

10 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

Most would agree that's as balanced of a team we've had out on the field all year...

The most interesting stat for mine is Petracca 94 percent of cba. Huge bump. Clearly a statement. He fumbled a bit but he was fantastic and looked incredibly fiit Oliver high. Pickett high. Rivers got lots of looks and was effective (player rating BOG). We are just a chance to beat anyone with cp5 being in the centre.

So how does JV make this centre square balance better. Maybe Oliver should get the tagging role again, it makes him accountable and he's actually really good at it. He didnt give a free kick away and totally blanked Neale's effectiveness. Oliver had 5. Neale had 4. He kept lNewcombe to 19 touches last week. Who will get Heeney. Warner is tough to tag, he's a bit like Trac.

Honestly I didn't expect Trac to be playing that many minutes through the middle just yet. It was very encouraging and I know there will be games where we still need him to split but it was a big takeaway.

I like that while they had us on transition (d50 to i50% 27.9% to their 41.2% - a 13% differential) they only converted those to scores 16.5% vs our 13.1% - a 3.4% differential.

Big win for our back 6, whether that’s sustainable I don’t know. You’d obviously like to shut down the transition earlier in the chain..


12 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Round 10, 2025 GABBA - Lions vs Demons

Upset of the season yes?

That's probably our finest win since we put together two on the trot against the Crows and Power in consecutive weeks in Adelaide in 2024.

Our Team Rating just below theirs by 2%. Our Top 6 not quite at their level where they took the chocies by nearly 7%. However, it was our bottom 6 this time around, where we won the ratings battle by 29%.

Big Maxy does it yet again, just ahead of Kozzy. Great games from both imv and Kozzy's second highest Player Rating for the season behind his outstanding game vs Freo in Rnd 6 (5.55).

Tracc beating his 2024 form in two of the last three weeks. Is he finally over the recovery / AFL fitness - form hump?

Clarry just pipping Neale in the head to head stakes! A win's a win. I don't think there was a tight clamp down here though as both players posted very respectable ratings and both finished in their respective top 5 players (5th x 2!).

Melky a very welcome return. Amazing what a difference an injection of class, experience and genuine forward craft can have on a team and the result. Well managed by Goodwin & Co. A big tick here

What happened to Windsor in this game. I didn't think he was stone motherless last but he's posted the worst Player Rating. Do i need to re-check my numbers maybe? What do others think of his game? Carrying a niggle or something?

Vines in for Sharp or Spargo next week?

Player & Team Ratings - Demons

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Player & Team Ratings - Lions

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Combined Player Ratings

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Thanks DD although they’re best rated higher than ours we batted deep, even Sharp & Fritta combined for a 2.9. Some really good signs and I loved the way that we hunted them and used their turn overs to spread and run in the second half. Great game to watch and how good was Goody and Chocko on the bench, directing, guiding and pushing the boys all game through.

8 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD although they’re best rated higher than ours we batted deep, even Sharp & Fritta combined for a 2.9. Some really good signs and I loved the way that we hunted them and used their turn overs to spread and run in the second half. Great game to watch and how good was Goody and Chocko on the bench, directing, guiding and pushing the boys all game

It would seem the sub role was just the tonic needed for Fritta DZ.

From a meagre 37% time on ground (TOG) too.

His average TOG this season 80%.

2024 average Player Rating > 1.75

Yesterday's Player Rating > 1.70

KEEP HIM AS THE SUB WHERE POSSIBLE!

From tonight's 'on-the-couch' ...

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 10, 2025 vs H&A Season 2024

As highlighted after our Rnd 7 game vs the Tigers, our Team Rating (presently 68.58) continues to see us on track to play finals in 2025* and is presently marginally ahead of season 2021

* Subject to the successful return of Lever & Viney along with reasonably minor impact from injuries for the remainder of the season, post their return.

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  • VOTES: Sydney

    Max Gawn still has an almost unassailable lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award. Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Harvey Langford, Kade Chandler & Ed Langdon round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

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