5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No.

Go back 10 years and we could only dream of current membership figures - which are still the 4th highest in the club's history.

If that's a "drastic fall" I can't help you.

Perspective.

Surely it's relative.

Our membership is plummeting..

Look at 21,22,23,24 and now..

There's a trend.

On 19/06/2025 at 21:30, beelzebub said:

What are the knocks ?

Asking for a friend

Report back on the Stevie J scuttlebutt.

Yarra supporter reaction -
The look on his face while I was telling him about what was posted "🤔"
And his answer, "Nah .... Never heard none of that."

9 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No.

Go back 10 years and we could only dream of current membership figures - which are still the 4th highest in the club's history.

If that's a "drastic fall" I can't help you.

Perspective.

No. You need to wake up Bing

In 2022 the MFC had 70,000 Members

That is the measuring stick we must work from

5 hours ago, Big Gun said:

I am all for trying something different and May forward if well worth a try. Big bodied enforcer up forward to support our young forwards like JVR, Jeffo etc. Not only could it reinvigorate the team, it could be just the tonic May himself needs to get back to his best again. He will always contest and bring the ball to ground. Quick too over a 10 metre lead. We have coverage down back with Lever, Disco, TMac and Petty.

What an opportunity to try things at the back end of the season. Don’t waste the chance Simon. We have nothing to lose now.

Yeah I LUUURVE it but you know the story... the Narrative has already been written

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. You need to wake up Bing

In 2022 the MFC had 70,000 Members

That is the measuring stick we must work from

Goodwin has bored 'em all to tears since.

6 hours ago, Big Gun said:

I am all for trying something different and May forward if well worth a try. Big bodied enforcer up forward to support our young forwards like JVR, Jeffo etc. Not only could it reinvigorate the team, it could be just the tonic May himself needs to get back to his best again. He will always contest and bring the ball to ground. Quick too over a 10 metre lead. We have coverage down back with Lever, Disco, TMac and Petty.

What an opportunity to try things at the back end of the season. Don’t waste the chance Simon. We have nothing to lose now.

May should be retired or shipped out to North at year’s end. He’s nowhere near our next serious tilt and thus expendable

It's sickening we have had 3 of the best marks and readers of flight in the AFL (May, Lever, Max) and despite having glaring forward issues since before our premiership, all 3 have never been tried at all. Is Max needed in the ruck? Many sides have been successful without a gun ruck and there's an argument to be had about Max domination in ruck vs actual advantage with taps.

What is Max's number one quality? He can mark anything anywhere. Great endurance. Maybe though it's time to look after him a bit and use his marking in the forward line. Leave him one out in the square.

Do we need all of May, Lever and Petty back? Turner as well..

May is a great leader of the backs but perhaps he and that leadership would at least now be better spent in the forward line.

I suppose like a lot here I've given up on real change happening.

Just give it a go for a few weeks. Swing them back or forward during games, just try something!

5 minutes ago, kurtneverdied said:

It's sickening we have had 3 of the best marks and readers of flight in the AFL (May, Lever, Max) and despite having glaring forward issues since before our premiership, all 3 have never been tried at all. Is Max needed in the ruck? Many sides have been successful without a gun ruck and there's an argument to be had about Max domination in ruck vs actual advantage with taps.

What is Max's number one quality? He can mark anything anywhere. Great endurance. Maybe though it's time to look after him a bit and use his marking in the forward line. Leave him one out in the square.

Do we need all of May, Lever and Petty back? Turner as well..

May is a great leader of the backs but perhaps he and that leadership would at least now be better spent in the forward line.

I suppose like a lot here I've given up on real change happening.

Just give it a go for a few weeks. Swing them back or forward during games, just try something!

I've suggested bringing Tmac back to the backline and Lever to half forward...

I'd try it.

4 minutes ago, kurtneverdied said:

It's sickening we have had 3 of the best marks and readers of flight in the AFL (May, Lever, Max) and despite having glaring forward issues since before our premiership, all 3 have never been tried at all. Is Max needed in the ruck? Many sides have been successful without a gun ruck and there's an argument to be had about Max domination in ruck vs actual advantage with taps.

What is Max's number one quality? He can mark anything anywhere. Great endurance. Maybe though it's time to look after him a bit and use his marking in the forward line. Leave him one out in the square.

Do we need all of May, Lever and Petty back? Turner as well..

May is a great leader of the backs but perhaps he and that leadership would at least now be better spent in the forward line.

I suppose like a lot here I've given up on real change happening.

Just give it a go for a few weeks. Swing them back or forward during games, just try something!

Wasn't that basically the plan when Grundy came on board and it failed miserably and Max just got his full time ruck position back?

Gawn is one of the worst kicks for goal in the game. He had a few years where he was awesome when outside 50 but has even seemed to lose that weapon.

If we want to kick an extra 3 behinds a game while suffering behind the play then sure put him forward.

Just now, beelzebub said:

I've suggested bringing Tmac back to the backline and Lever to half forward...

I'd try it.

I'd rather just play Tmac forward at that point.

Just now, KozzyCan said:

I'd rather just play Tmac forward at that point.

He won't play forward.. Apparently it's a thing .

Otherwise yeah..... but ...nahhh

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

May should be retired or shipped out to North at year’s end. He’s nowhere near our next serious tilt and thus expendable

He is contracted for next year and won’t be shipped off to North. He might not be around for our next serious tilt but he gives us a look at what a forward line might look like with a larger, more imposing key forward working alongside our younger forwards. Also gives recruiters at least two off seasons to see if we can recruit or develop an imposing key forward with size and aggression for the longer term.

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. You need to wake up Bing

In 2022 the MFC had 70,000 Members

That is the measuring stick we must work from

So Carlton has round 100,00 members ..2 Coleman medallist’s as forwards ..a Brownlow medallist in the midfield ..an All Australian fullback.., is this the measuring stick we should be aiming for ..how’s their finals record in the last 30years. Seemingly their members still sign up regardless ..

On 19/06/2025 at 23:59, Sir Why You Little said:

shouldn’t effect the Football Department at all.

The Club has been running smoothly with the interim positions.

The Football Department has not given 100% performances, that has been laid bare, and because of it we are sitting in the Bottom 4

Letting your mate Greeny off pretty easily as usual. Our board has been asleep at the wheel since at least 2020. An interim president and an interim CEO. As @rjay says, how was this allowed to happen? Not good enough.

24 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

So Carlton has round 100,00 members ..2 Coleman medallist’s as forwards ..a Brownlow medallist in the midfield ..an All Australian fullback.., is this the measuring stick we should be aiming for ..how’s their finals record in the last 30years. Seemingly their members still sign up regardless ..

I am only interested in the MFC, what Carlton do is entirely their problem

The 70,000 who signed up in 2022 should have grown, but the product is so often boring and frustrating to watch

14 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Letting your mate Greeny off pretty easily as usual. Our board has been asleep at the wheel since at least 2020. An interim president and an interim CEO. As @rjay says, how was this allowed to happen? Not good enough.

And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?

The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?

The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board

He should have gone with option #1 for CEO, who would already be at his desk and working.

Our FD problems stem from a nothing, charade of a review last year.

Brad was the football director, he should have been the conduit between FD and board, along with (likely) the CEO. And yet we had our two beat midfielders, arguably of all time, trying to request trades out of the club last year.

They both love Goody, but things in the FD were allowed to fester. Whose fault is that? The board should take no ownership over the demise of things both on and off field?

32 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He should have gone with option #1 for CEO, who would already be at his desk and working.

Our FD problems stem from a nothing, charade of a review last year.

Brad was the football director, he should have been the conduit between FD and board, along with (likely) the CEO. And yet we had our two beat midfielders, arguably of all time, trying to request trades out of the club last year.

They both love Goody, but things in the FD were allowed to fester. Whose fault is that? The board should take no ownership over the demise of things both on and off field?

That’s your take, others can disagree

Do you know why option #1 was not chosen for the position?

Tracc and Clarry didn’t want to leave last year, that was what the Media wanted to happen….

Clarry was part of the problem…

Brad Green has kept the place together, i won’t comment on the Revue, because i have no idea what was discussed

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Tracc and Clarry didn’t want to leave last year, that was what the Media wanted to happen….

Was this sarcasm? Did I miss a previous post?

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?

The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board

...and it's the Boards job to oversee and where necessary take action to sort these problems out.

A caretaker President & CEO are not in a position to do anything.

Edited June 23Jun 23 by rjay

8 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?

The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board

If only that were so!!

15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. You need to wake up Bing

In 2022 the MFC had 70,000 Members

That is the measuring stick we must work from

Someone told me the other day we're about 20,000 behind what we were this time last year, is that the case?

10 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?

The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board

So the answer is simple,the F.D needs to go!

On 18/06/2025 at 12:58, Previously known as LITD. said:

I know I said I'd take a break from DLand and I'm trying.

But I must say our club as best as I can sum it up is...

BROKEN.

1......To have three years of diabialical goal scoring issues.

2.... Players complaining in public about the club.

3....Recruiting players like Billings, Fullarton , McAdam who have been on the list for a while now but haven't offered us much. Schache a prime example. We kept him for years but rarely played him. Probably for good reason. But why did we keep him around.

4. ..Goodys insistence on playing Petty fwd when last year with twenty games, kicked a goal every fortnight.

5...Playing games in Nt where we lose and are not crowd favorites.

6...Dropping players when they are in good form for players not in form. Tmac for eg. ( It reminds me of Adam To..)

7. Goody is very slow to make changes during a game.

8. .Our meekness to not just once come out and call the umps out for the disgraceful pies game.

9. ..Our fwd line delivery especially given our failure to recruit enough big body old fashioned style full fwds that can take a pack mark to suit this.

10. I'll say it again because the club doesn't seem to notice....our poor kicking at goal for three years in row....... currently the worst in the entire competition

Now not all of these of course fall upon poor Goody. But some of them simply must. So it is I believe, all finished for Simon at our club.

He's done a great job in breaking the horrible voodoo and win us a flag but now he's gone past his use by date.

Has he been a great coach? I think he has. Some may argue we should have got more than one flag with this list. But I would argue that losing Gus and Melksham cost us. Not Simon.

But that's all by and by. Moving forward we need to start again.

This year is a bust.

Let's introduce a new coach and cut several players.

Kings or Queens bday is s time for rose pruning.

So too with the club. Sure we played well and were clearly robbed but it was our goal kicking again that helped lose it. And some stubborn coaching.

So while we are good enough to beat the number one team in front of a huge crowd and get beaten by power , saints and North.... something is definitely not right.

Simon is getting heaps out of them one week followed by zip the next.

Surely this is reason enough to start pruning again.

Starting with the coach. Definitely.

Well said, hopefully the club reads this kind of post. Couldn’t be more true. If they don’t believe it then they have buried their heads in the sand.

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Someone told me the other day we're about 20,000 behind what we were this time last year, is that the case?

We never actually had 70,000 physical members. Definitely a significant membership drop off though.