2024 Phantom Drafts

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

Twomey is reasonably consistent with the Demonlanders comments.  Nothing new. Just that the top 10 are all good.  The top 6 are most definitely in the top 10 and then there is the probables & possibles   

Dees “5”: best midfielder available from Lalor, O’Sullivan, Draper, Smith or Langford  (likely choice is between Smith or Langford) 

Dees “9”: Cal thinks Armstrong, but could be Allan or Travaglia (imv Allan would be a ready made footballer) 

Jagga Smith is a very impressive young man. His strength is his footy IQ, gets the footy and makes the right decisions.   His knock is size and strength.   Tackling not really identified.  Kicking is smart but not arrow like.  Pace is good but not electric.  He’s got to get stronger and faster to be an elite midfielder like Butters.

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[Supreme_Demon 3,699]

At pick #5 I would be happy with either Harvey Langford or Jagga Smith.

It all depends who is the better kick and more elite decision maker?

[Ted Lasso 19,158]

My revised top 15

1. Sam Lalor (Richmond)

2. Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)

3. Alix Tauru (Norf)

4. Finn O'Sullivan (Blues)

5. Sid Draper (Crom)

6. Jagga Smith (Melbourne)

7. Harvey Langford (Richmond)

8. Josh Smillie (St Kilda)

9. Harry Armstrong (St Kilda

10. Leo Lombard (Suns)

11. Issac Kako (Dons)

12. Murphy Reid (Melbourne)

13. Tobie Travaglia (Richmond)

14. Xavier Lindsay (Richmond)

15. Bo Allen (West Coast)

[adonski 11,544]

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

My revised top 15

1. Sam Lalor (Richmond)

2. Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)

3. Alix Tauru (Norf)

4. Finn O'Sullivan (Blues)

5. Sid Draper (Crom)

6. Jagga Smith (Melbourne)

7. Harvey Langford (Richmond)

8. Josh Smillie (St Kilda)

9. Harry Armstrong (St Kilda

10. Leo Lombard (Suns)

11. Issac Kako (Dons)

12. Murphy Reid (Melbourne)

13. Tobie Travaglia (Richmond)

14. Xavier Lindsay (Richmond)

15. Bo Allen (West Coast)

[dazzledavey36 54,003]

The talk of Bo Allan for our 2nd pick has picked up progressively over the past few weeks.

Was mentioned a week or two ago that we've got strong interest supposedly. 

[demoncat 1,231]

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The talk of Bo Allan for our 2nd pick has picked up progressively over the past few weeks.

Was mentioned a week or two ago that we've got strong interest supposedly. 

Is that inside knowledge Daz or just the recent media reports?

[dazzledavey36 54,003]

3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Is that inside knowledge Daz or just the recent media reports?

No just media reports I've read.

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

@Ted Lasso yes we are nearly aligned. 

#5… likely Smith or Langford.  Either is a great addition.  👏👏👏

However in outcome , I can’t see the Dees taking both Smith & Reid. 

in your scenario, at “9”, I think it’s either Allan, Lindsay or Travaglia.  
If Smith at 5, I’d take Allan at 9.  They would compliment each other perfectly in a future midfield. Allan can play half back or strong inside midfield role.  
If Langford at 5, then it’s either Lindsay or Travaglia as the best choice.  Again players added that present inside power and outside running.   

[Mouseymoo 111]

41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The talk of Bo Allan for our 2nd pick has picked up progressively over the past few weeks.

Was mentioned a week or two ago that we've got strong interest supposedly. 

Recently McVee, JVR, Tholstrup, Rivers, Jackson even Taj Woewodin - we certainly aren't afraid to draft from Western Australia so it wouldn't be a surprise 

[fr_ap 2,451]

7 hours ago, Nascent said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/fox-footy-afl-draft-power-rankings-2024-top-50-afl-draft-news-2024-prospects-predictions-final-power-rankings/news-story/3e3909b5ec637e92aeeae8ce440315a6

 

Jagga Smith

He’s right in Richmond’s Pick 1 frame — and could still be on the board by the time the Tigers have their second pick — but all of North Melbourne, Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne will strongly consider him too.

Sam Lalor 

Should the Tigers overlook him, Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne, surely at the latest, would all consider him strongly.

Harvey Langford

Langford looms as a top-10 pick on draft night. There’s a slight chance the Tigers take him at Pick 1, but if he’s still there at Pick 6 they would strongly consider him. Rival clubs recently strongly linked him to Melbourne (Picks 5 and 9), too.

Murphy Reid

Reid is likely to come into the draft mix from Richmond’s Pick 6 onwards, with St Kilda and Melbourne to consider him too. Some rival clubs, though, wouldn’t be surprised if he slipped into the teens.

Josh Smillie

Smillie still seems well placed to be taken at the top-end of this year’s draft, with Melbourne (Pick 5) the earliest link at this stage. It’s hard to see him sliding past St Kilda and Richmond’s top-10 picks.

Harry Armstrong

There’s an outside chance Melbourne (Pick 5) takes him with its first selection, although the sense is the Dees will more likely target a midfielder at that pick. It’s most likely Armstrong, at this stage, goes to Richmond (Pick 6), St Kilda (Picks 7 and 8) or Melbourne (Pick 9).

Xavier Lindsay

Lindsay is in the top-10 mix, with Melbourne (Pick 5) perhaps the club with the earliest pick that could take him. Yet there’s a world in which Lindsay slips to teams like the Dockers and Power in the teens, such is the nature of this year’s even draft class.

Jobe Shanahan

There’s a slight chance he sneaks in to the top 10 — should one of the Saints, Demons or Tigers want a key forward at that stage of the draft — otherwise he should be in that mid first-round mix featuring the Power, Dockers and Giants.

Jack Whitlock

Could be an outside chance to be taken by one of the Saints, Demons or Tigers in the top 10, but looms more likely as a later selection on night one. Could Sydney pounce?

 

Amazing analysis - every player is a chance to be taken by any number of clubs with picks around their projected draft range. Dees linked to every player on the list as we sit right in the middle of the range of jets getting through, and next tier pushing up. 

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[BW511 2,616]

2 hours ago, Ted Lasso said:

My revised top 15

1. Sam Lalor (Richmond)

2. Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)

3. Alix Tauru (Norf)

4. Finn O'Sullivan (Blues)

5. Sid Draper (Crom)

6. Jagga Smith (Melbourne)

7. Harvey Langford (Richmond)

8. Josh Smillie (St Kilda)

9. Harry Armstrong (St Kilda

10. Leo Lombard (Suns)

11. Issac Kako (Dons)

12. Murphy Reid (Melbourne)

13. Tobie Travaglia (Richmond)

14. Xavier Lindsay (Richmond)

15. Bo Allen (West Coast)

I know we need something different but if this is how it plays out, I would be very underwhelmed 

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

Updated. Best guesses and estimates imv.  This draft is very deep with good quality youngsters, and high quality even through the second round and beyond.   

I have the Dees holding at picks 5 & 9.  I think it’s a choice between Langford or Smith at “5”, then a choice between Lindsay, Travaglia or Allan at “9”. Either way, Dees get two premium youngsters.  

There’s likely to be some pick swaps throughout but the first round predictions as is are: 

1. Richmond. Sam Lalor. GWV
2.****Lions father son. Levi Ashcroft. Sandringham 
3. North Melbourne. Alix Tauru. Gippsland 
4. Carlton (via West Coast). Finn O’Sullivan . Oakleigh
5. Adelaide. Sid Draper. SA Sth Adelaide
6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford. Dandenong. 
7. Richmond (via Gold Coast). Jagga Smith. Oakleigh.  
8. ****Suns academy. Leonardo Lombard
9. St Kilda. Josh Smillie. Eastern
10. St Kilda (via Josh Battle compensation pick). Harry Armstrong . Sandringham 
11. Melbourne (via Essendon). Xavier Lindsay. Gippsland 
12. Richmond (via Fremantle) Tobie Travaglia. Bendigo 
13.Richmond (via Fremantle, Collingwood)  Luke Trainor. Sandringham 
14. West Coast (via Carlton) Bo Allan. WA Peel.
15. **** Ess NGA. Isaac Kako. Calder
16.  Port Adelaide (via Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs).  Joe Berry. Murray 
17. Fremantle (via Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton).  Taj Hotton. Sandringham 
18. Greater Western Sydney. Jobe Shanahan. Bendigo
19. Greater Western Sydney (via Harry Perryman compensation pick). Murphy Reid. Sandringham 
20. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong). Cooper Hynes . Dandenong
21. **** Lions academy. Sam Marshall 
22. Richmond (via Fremantle, Port Adelaide). Jack Whitlock. Murray .
23.****Blues father son. Ben Camporeale. SA. 
24. Sydney. Harrison Oliver. Sandringham 
25. Richmond (via Brisbane). Alex Dodson. SA Sturt
26. Greater Western Sydney (via Isaac Cumming compensation pick). Hamish Davis. WA Claremont
27. Sydney (via North Melbourne). James Barrat - Bendigo.
28. Richmond (via Gold Coast, North Melbourne). Ollie Hannaford. GWV

predicting the longest first round ever!!

Some likely 2nd rounders: 

Matt Whitlock. Murray.
Tom Gross - Oakleigh.  
Christian Moraes - Eastern.  
Kayle Gerryn - WA West Perth.  
Thomas Sims - Northern.
Jonty Faull - GWV.  
Jesse Dattoli - Northern.  
Harry O'Farrell - Calder.
Lachie Jacques - Geelong.
Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie.  
Jack Ough - GWV.
Angus Clarke - SA Glenelg.
Josh Murphy - Murray.  
*** GWS Academy - Logan Smith
Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA.  
*** Crows. Tyler Welsh SA WWT eagles.  
Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo. HFF.
*** Sydney academy. Joel Cochran. 

Likely 3rd rounders: 
Clancy Dennis - WA  Claremont
Riley Bice - Werribee VFL.
*** Crows father son . Luke Camporeale. Glenelg 
Sam Davidson. RICHMOND VFL 
Noah Mraz - Dandenong. 
Hugh Boxshall. WA Claremont
Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh.  
*** Stk NGA. Adrian Cole.  Sandringham. 
Dom Brew. Mid. Werribee VFL
Jasper Alger. Oakleigh
***Port father son Louis Montgomery. SA Nth Adel.  
Oliver Warburton. Murray.
Xavier Ivisic Geelong  
 *** West Coast NGA Malakai Champion.  WA  Subiaco.
Floyd Burmeister. GWV 
Will Hayes. WA Claremont.  
Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL.
Bailey McKenzie. Sandringham  

after this it’s seeing who might have draft picks available, or will pickup rookie opportunities or SSP train on spots. As with every year, there will be some very talented young footy players will miss out on getting on an AFL senior or rookie list.  

Potential for 4th round or likely rookies:  

Josh Dolan. Sandringham 
Phoenix Hargrave.  SA Sth Adel
Cody Anderson. Eastern.  
Luke Kennedy . Sandringham.  
Patrick Retschko. Oakleigh 
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Tassie
Lucca Grego. Western. 
Kade Herbert. SA WWT eagles.
*** Port Adel NGA. Benny Barrett.Sth Adel. SA 
Ned Bowman. Norwood SA
Cody Angove. WA Claremont 
Zak Johnson. Northern.
Jaxon Artemis- WA Sth Frem
*** GWS academy. Cooper Bell.
Nash King. Mid. Calder
Aiden Riddle - WA. Claremont
Riak Andrew. Dandenong. 
Harry Charlson. GWV
Luke Urquhart. WA  East Frem
Damon Hollow. Calder
*** Saints NGA. Lennox Hoffman. Sandringham.
Rhys Unwin. GWV. 
Jett Hasting. SA WWT eagles. 
Mitch Kirkwood-Scott. Sandringham 
Blake Leidler. Oakleigh.  
Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Fwd. Western.  
** Ess NGA Jayden Nguyen Calder .
** Stk father son. Elwood Peckett
** Dees Father son Noah Yze. Oakleigh.  
**Dees NGA Ricky Mentha Gippsland 

[adonski 11,544]

[deelusions from afar 1,768]

Saw Bo Allen highlights from WAFL  - looks a good size with a lot of attributes.  But didn't see him hit a target.

Is that a fair criticism and if so do we want / need another midfielder with sub par kicking skills when Clarry, Trac and Viney all struggle in this area?

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

45 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Saw Bo Allen highlights from WAFL  - looks a good size with a lot of attributes.  But didn't see him hit a target.

Is that a fair criticism and if so do we want / need another midfielder with sub par kicking skills when Clarry, Trac and Viney all struggle in this area?

Agree. If we grab Smith as polished skilled mid, then Allan is in play as contested ballwinner.  If we take Langford is predicted, then we might take Lindsay who is the most skilled player in the draft in my view.  

[Palace Dees 2,253]

2 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

Saw Bo Allen highlights from WAFL  - looks a good size with a lot of attributes.  But didn't see him hit a target.

Is that a fair criticism and if so do we want / need another midfielder with sub par kicking skills when Clarry, Trac and Viney all struggle in this area?

In the post prior to yours, of the top 30 picks, 24 are Victorian, 1 is West Australian.  PLEASE MFC, pick the Vic's!!!  Eliminate at least one reason why players will want to leave us. 😭

P.S. Only 10% joking

 

 

[2021 271]

This is not a bad video. I’m assuming people won’t be happy with the picks though.

He has us taking:

5) Armstrong

9) Reid

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

9 hours ago, 2021 said:

This is not a bad video. I’m assuming people won’t be happy with the picks though.

He has us taking:

5) Armstrong

9) Reid

Not crazy but with these picks, he should have a beer in his hand …in my view, Dees would be crazy to miss Langford 

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

Analysis of our list, best 23, draft strategy and likely 5 & 9.  He covers with good insights (for an Eagles supporter) and knows the history of our drafting with reasonable detail.  Worth a listen imv.  

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[Mouseymoo 111]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Analysis of our list, best 23, draft strategy and likely 5 & 9.  He covers with good insights (for an Eagles supporter) and knows the history of our drafting with reasonable detail.  Worth a listen imv.  

He's a good analyst, he had a video of Windsor in his draft year and pretty much nailed his assessment of him. 

[Deez Man 100]

I reckon we are posturing to take Tauru at 5 so that north take him at 2 leaving us in all likelihood with Jagga Smith who might well be the best in the draft, if you're going purely by performances he's certainly in the conversation. I think we then take one of Armstrong or Travaglia with 9.

The other possibility is that we do end up with Taura at 5 & then Bo Allen at 9.

I'm pretty confident we'll see one of these two play out

 

[Mouseymoo 111]

20 minutes ago, Deez Man said:

I reckon we are posturing to take Tauru at 5 so that north take him at 2 leaving us in all likelihood with Jagga Smith who might well be the best in the draft, if you're going purely by performances he's certainly in the conversation. I think we then take one of Armstrong or Travaglia with 9.

The other possibility is that we do end up with Taura at 5 & then Bo Allen at 9.

I'm pretty confident we'll see one of these two play out

 

I'm getting the sense no one's really going to want to trade down for North's 2 - and they won't be able to beat our 5 anyway, so North might have to not be "greedy" and just use a bit of our philosophy, and pony up 2 for your need and call it a day. 

[demoncat 1,231]

The author has us taking Jagga Smith at 5 and Harry Armstrong at 9

He also has Tauru going to the Roos at 2 and Langford going to the Crows at 4