PREGAME: Rd 18 vs Essendon

[Sir Why You Little 37,452]

15 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

But  not a real first gamer....just with us. Quite a difference for mine Sir.... just sayin'

First game playing with this Team, too much at stake

[Sir Why You Little 37,452]

15 minutes ago, layzie said:

Well, a 19 game player. Also 25 y.o.

Don't see him getting a chance.

Has no experience playing with this Senior Side 

Goodwin obviously wants players who know the System. It’s a gamble, but i can see the reasoning 

[pitmaster 3,592]

Worst selection news is Andrew Stephens (umpire number 12). I'll say it now, before the bounce, an utter donkey. (Sorry quadrupeds.)

[DubDee 26,674]

28 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Clearly Goodie is in love with Petty

Petty must have photos of Goody like Milkshake was accused of

Or he backs in the players that have talent 

[middleagedemon 325]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Wow, the sheriff of opinions comes barrelling into town, just a point you couldn't tie the shoelaces of @WalkingCivilWar as a Melbourne supporter.

I am a fan boy,

 

The sheriff has put all fan boys on ignore. 

Adios! 

[Demon Dynasty 17,164]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Not too fussed about about 'tactics' of the non-ruck selection, nor the result

Even if we win by 10 goals it's a mistake to expose someone as fragile as Petty & someone as valuable as JVR to bulk ruck mins

100% this.  There's just no logic to playing Petty &/or JVR in a serious ruck role when you have a 2 meter option sitting at Casey who will do roughly the same job.

And the upside is more JVR up forward with more energy as a forward and less chance of being pummelled or copping a serious knee / leg injury.

2024 will forever be known as the season of the petty obsession.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Has anyone been to training to see who has trained in the ruck position?

Not that I know of

[middleagedemon 325]

To the game.. 

I can see why Goodie has selected Petty as the only 'in' given the potential weather and the way we'll try and play essendon.

However, I worry for JVR, Turner and Petty going into the ruck not because they won't compete, but because of further risk to injury. Especially JVR. Petty is the opposite of the Dr durabunny so I'm expecting him to be subbed out at some point. 

See what happens ey. 

Bring heat and effort in the middle for the entire match and we'll trouble them. Off in that area and we'll lose the game in a quarter. 

[Little Goffy 14,954]

5 minutes ago, middleagedemon said:

The sheriff has put all fan boys on ignore. 

Adios! 

That's now your 19th post on Demonland ever, and I'd estimate 13 of them have been 'OMG I'm so oppressed'.

Join the conversation or don't, but turning up just to sulk is tedious for everyone else at the party.

[PaulRB 6,435]

All three of JVR, Petty and Disco are good marks giving us options down the line and negating Draper’s marking. 

I’d give Disco the lions share of ball ups and throw ins and ask home to play hard, close and “unco”, to make Draper earn every touch with high chance of errant arm head and body clash in process.

And when Disco tires, have Petty and JVR do likewise. 

Draper is not at Max level, make him earn it, frustrate him and bog him down, and our mids and kids can then beat their mids. 

im excited for Saturday night.

Go Demons 

Edited July 11, 2024 by PaulRB

[Demon Dynasty 17,164]

5 hours ago, Young Blood said:

Ths might have already been mentioned and I haven't gone back through the thread.

Would it not have been tactically smart to have Max Gawn down as 'test' for this week and keeping the extent of the injury hush hush? Just to cause a bit of havoc with Essendon's game planning.

They probably have to release injury info once official scans come in probably. But just a thought.

 

YES

[layzie 34,528]

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Has no experience playing with this Senior Side 

Goodwin obviously wants players who know the System. It’s a gamble, but i can see the reasoning 

Nothing wrong with the reasoning. Just saying I don't see a place for Fullerton from here on out. Can anyone think of a reason he might get selected at all now? 

Edited July 11, 2024 by layzie

[Gunna’s 2,107]

16 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Worst selection news is Andrew Stephens (umpire number 12). I'll say it now, before the bounce, an utter donkey. (Sorry quadrupeds.)

Also saw we have 22 - Nathan Williamson. 
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Round-18.pdf

Are the EOFY sales still on at JB? Might need a new TV come Sunday 

[middleagedemon 325]

Just now, Little Goffy said:

That's now your 19th post on Demonland ever, and I'd estimate 13 of them have been 'OMG I'm so oppressed'.

Join the conversation or don't, but turning up just to sulk is tedious for everyone else at the party.

Haha. 

Go and bother the fire starters Goffy. 

I was posting football related content until a poster began claiming I was 'bagging' players. 

And now you've quoted me as saying "omg I'm so oppressed" in 13 of my posts! 

Which convo are you joining btw? This one most certainly doesn't feel like "the conversation". 

 

[PaulRB 6,435]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Nothing wrong with the reasoning. Just saying I don't see a place for Fullerton from here on out. Can anyone think of a reason he might get selected at all now? 

I can. Saturday night goes pear shaped… 

[SPC 3,596]

Do we think we might see Clarry hit some stoppages at pace Saturday night? It is my favourite thing to watch, but he just stands, hovering waiting for the ball to come out. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,679]

With the Grundy experiment quickly ended, MFC sought out a second ruck option and Tom Fullarton was traded in to assist Gawn.
Now not even playing at all with Gawn out injured for 3 weeks !!! wtf

[Sir Why You Little 37,452]

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

Nothing wrong with the reasoning. Just saying I don't see a place for Fullerton from here on out. Can anyone think of a reason he might get selected at all now? 

If Petty didn’t come up, i think Fullarton would have played. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,679]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Nothing wrong with the reasoning. Just saying I don't see a place for Fullerton from here on out. Can anyone think of a reason he might get selected at all now? 

Fullarton might get a game if all of the following happens 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gawn out injured 

JVR out injured 

Petty out injured 

Tmcd out injured 

and if he buys Goody a coffee or red wine at the next opportunity!!!  

[layzie 34,528]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Why did we retain Schache as well?

Verrell aside, the other two aren’t in development mode. If they can’t fill a role when it’s clearly required, they should be delisted and make room for others who can. 

This is of course not on the players themselves, but on our list management. I understand the gamble on Fullarton, but the Schache retention as well makes no sense. Especially when we had Tomlinson stay on. 

It's the definition of list clogging and those with maturity will understand that's not a personal attack on these players.

You're either in development or you can be called upon. If it stays the way it is going then I don't see hope for either.

[layzie 34,528]

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If Petty didn’t come up, i think Fullarton would have played. 

Says pretty much everything when the guy you brought in to back up Max is pipped at selection by the guy who never plays in ruck, gets hurt nearly every week at the moment and according to some on here has been 'underdone' most of the year.

Definitely not panning the selection, reseeving judgement on that one but it's pretty disappointing that we get a guy in only for there to be no trust in him at all at selection and this goes for about 4 games this year not just this one.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Gunna’s said:

Also saw we have 22 - Nathan Williamson. 
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Round-18.pdf

Are the EOFY sales still on at JB? Might need a new TV come Sunday 

Williamson is the worst. We also have Nick Foot #2 and Andrew Stephens #12. Good times 😳

[SPC 3,596]

Not defending selection, but is this more to do with the potential for wet conditions than personnel. I think we would be seeing different selection if it was the same conditions that we saw on Sunday. 
Just a hunch 

[old55 23,860]

Non sensical selection to me.

I'm good with Petty’s selection but not to ruck. I'd rather see Fullarton or Tomlinson sacrificed to the altar - they're both Emergencies. If we think we'd be too tall in the wet then pull Turner out. My only hope is we're doing a Chris Scott and plan a late change.

[Deestar9 1,854]

28 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

100% this.  There's just no logic to playing Petty &/or JVR in a serious ruck role when you have a 2 meter option sitting at Casey who will do roughly the same job.

And the upside is more JVR up forward with more energy as a forward and less chance of being pummelled or copping a serious knee / leg injury.

2024 will forever be known as the season of the petty obsession.

Disagree …Petty knows how to mark defensively & offensively & his marking has def improved. JVR has been capable all season of back up ruckman & it doesn’t seem to have diminished his output in any way. I’m sure the high performance team knows better than us & it’s drawing a long bow to say that Petty or JVR is at more risk of getting injured by playing in the  ruck than other areas of the ground. With Petty fit..if  we bought in Fullerton we would have to probably drop Turner. The game won’t be lost on our ruck selection…it will rely on all players doing the jobs they are given and those jobs will be plans that hair been put in place for the situation that has arisen …Max not playing.