2024 List and Contract Details

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Quick list posting before the Draft..

2025			2026			2028
(UFA) 14 J.Billings	30	171	26 J.Adams	22	0	(RFA) 🏆 15 E.Langdon	32	179
(UFA) ?? T.Campbell	33	58	🏆 17 J.Bowey	22	61	(UFA) 🏆 8 J.Lever	32	178
33 T.Fullarton	26	19	(RFA) 37 K.Chandler	25	56	39 K.Tholstrup	22	10
22 B.Howes	22	16	(RFA) 🏆 31 B.Fritsch	31	149	(UFA) 🏆 7 J.Viney	34	219
🏆 1 S.May	33	235	21 M.Jefferson	22	0	6 C.Windsor	22	19
(UFA) 🏆 25 T.McDonald	33	232	16 B.Laurie	24	11	2029
4 J.McVee	23	48	23 S.McAdam	31	53	(UFA) 🏆 5 C.Petracca	33	189
(UFA) 18 J.Melksham	34	229	(UFA) 🏆 3 C.Salem	31	176	(RFA) 2 J.Van Rooyen	26	41
?? H.Sharp	22	16	(RFA) 🏆 32 T.Sparrow	26	95	2030
(RFA) 🏆 9 C Spargo	25	98	42 D.Turner	25	18	(UFA) 🏆 13 C.Oliver	33	183
40 T.Woewodin	22	20	Pick 79		0	Blue = Age EOC Red = Games Start 2025
Rookies (A)			2027			Coach 2026
41 K.Brown	19	2	(UFA) 🏆 11 M.Gawn	36	224	🏆 S.Goodwin	49	173
(UFA) 27 M.Hore	29	20	(RFA) 🏆 35 H.Petty	27	82	List Size: (max 44)
44 L.Kentfield	20	0	(RFA) 🏆 36 K.Pickett	26	106	Senior: (max 36-38)	33
38 O.Sestan	21	0	(RFA) 🏆 24 T. Rivers	26	100	A Rookie: (max 4-6)	5
28 W.Verrall	21	0	Pick 5		0	B Rookie: (max 2)	1
A Rookie Pick			PIck 9		0	Total	39
Rookies (B)						Draft Picks 2024
45 A.Moniz-Wakefield	22	6				Pick 5, 79	Dees
B rookie Pick						Pick 9	Ess

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Edited Wednesday at 03:03 by red and blue forever

[red and blue forever 1,030]

Update for the two new boys!!!

Welcome, Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay

 

 

 

 

[DeeZone 9,842]

16 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

Update for the two new boys!!!

Welcome, Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay

 

 

 

 

Top efforts red and blue forever.✅✅✅

[red and blue forever 1,030]

Update for our final draft pick,

Welcome Aidan Johnson!! 24yr old forward, nice

 

[Sideshow Bob 2,386]

If i read this correctly we have 2 available senior list spots, 1 cat a rookie and 1 cat b that we could fill.

So Potentially upgrade a rookie or 2 and open more rookie spots before rookie draft or SSP or delisted FA signing x 1- 2 or just leave as is

46 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

Update for our final draft pick,

Welcome Aidan Johnson!! 24yr old forward, nice

 

 

[red and blue forever 1,030]

21 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

If i read this correctly we have 2 available senior list spots, 1 cat a rookie and 1 cat b that we could fill.

So Potentially upgrade a rookie or 2 and open more rookie spots before rookie draft or SSP or delisted FA signing x 1- 2 or just leave as is

 

we have 1 cat a 1 cat b. available

we currently have 42 of a Maximum 44 players

can only go to 38 senior list players if you only have 4 Rookies

 

 

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1 hour ago, red and blue forever said:

Update for our final draft pick,

Welcome Aidan Johnson!! 24yr old forward, nice

 

Moniz-Wakefield had to be upgraded to a category A rookie after 3 years on the B list. We will pick Mentha as a cat b tomorrow. One category B spot left over. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Looking ahead … to the end of season 2025…potential changes 

retirement… McDonald, Melksham 

sitting on the edge are …potentially delistings 🔪 would include some of (or all of) … Spargo, Hore, Billings, Laurie, Fullarton, McAdam, Verrall, Sestan, Adams, Kentfield & Johnson. 

I think Dees will have up to 9 list changes to add at the end of 2025.  Definitely need to upgrade list before Tassie comes in and need to be tougher and more ruthless with list spots. 

[12345_54321 1,162]

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Looking ahead … to the end of season 2025…potential changes 

retirement… McDonald, Melksham 

sitting on the edge are …potentially delistings 🔪 would include some of (or all of) … Spargo, Hore, Billings, Laurie, Fullarton, McAdam, Verrall, Sestan, Adams, Kentfield & Johnson. 

I think Dees will have up to 9 list changes to add at the end of 2025.  Definitely need to upgrade list before Tassie comes in and need to be tougher and more ruthless with list spots. 

Johnson was drafted barely an hour ago and you’ve already got him as a potential delisting? You need a new hobby.

 

not to mention a number of those blokes are contracted beyond next year🥱 

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54 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Moniz-Wakefield had to be upgraded to a category A rookie after 3 years on the B list. We will pick Mentha as a cat b tomorrow. One category B spot left over. 

Thanks, I'll add Mentha when his name gets picked

There has been some confusion as to if we need to upgrade Moniz-Wakefield to "Cat A rookie" or not, as rules changed this year, allowing for 4-5 years

I am still unsure if this means 3 years "Cat B, then 1-2 years "Cat A rookie", Or you can be 4-5 years as "Cat B Rookie"

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Rookies – time on list

The AFL will introduce a trigger for an additional fourth year on the Rookie List where the Rookie has played less than ten career AFL matches, which will then apply in same way for access to an additional fifth year.  Total aggregate years on the Rookie List will be capped at five years (5.5 years for Mid-Season Rookie Draft).

Also, doing some research to find a good answer, It seems the AFL has also changing the "Cat B " size? I think it may now be 3 players,

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In addition to these six rookie-listed players, each club can include up to three additional players (now referred to as Category B rookies) on its Rookie List provided the player either:

 

[dazzledavey36 54,944]

No rookie list for us today.

 

[dazzledavey36 54,944]

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Looking ahead … to the end of season 2025…potential changes 

retirement… McDonald, Melksham 

sitting on the edge are …potentially delistings 🔪 would include some of (or all of) … Spargo, Hore, Billings, Laurie, Fullarton, McAdam, Verrall, Sestan, Adams, Kentfield & Johnson. 

I think Dees will have up to 9 list changes to add at the end of 2025.  Definitely need to upgrade list before Tassie comes in and need to be tougher and more ruthless with list spots. 

Wtf? Johnson delisted after one year? 🤦‍♂️

Yeah nah.

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Sorry DD36. Tired after a long 48 hrs and season. My Error. Big man gets two years on draftee contract.  

Edited Thursday at 21:08 by spirit of norm smith
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[12345_54321 1,162]

8 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

Thanks, I'll add Mentha when his name gets picked

There has been some confusion as to if we need to upgrade Moniz-Wakefield to "Cat A rookie" or not, as rules changed this year, allowing for 4-5 years

I am still unsure if this means 3 years "Cat B, then 1-2 years "Cat A rookie", Or you can be 4-5 years as "Cat B Rookie"

Also, doing some research to find a good answer, It seems the AFL has also changing the "Cat B " size? I think it may now be 3 players,

 

Believe you can spend up to 5 years on the rookie list but still only 3 years as a category B. So when we pick Mentha we’ll have 36 senior listed, 6 cat A rookies and 1 cat b rookie (Mentha).

 

hopefully our second cat b in the future can be an Irishman 😁

Edited Thursday at 22:18 by 12345_54321

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16 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Believe you can spend up to 5 years on the rookie list but still only 3 years as a category B. So when we had Mentha we’ll have 36 senior listed, 6 cat A rookies and 1 cat b rookie (Mentha).

 

hopefully our second cat b in the future can be an Irishman 😁

Eoin McEvoy perhaps?

Edited Thursday at 21:41 by Nascent

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11 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

If i read this correctly we have 2 available senior list spots, 1 cat a rookie and 1 cat b that we could fill.

So Potentially upgrade a rookie or 2 and open more rookie spots before rookie draft or SSP or delisted FA signing x 1- 2 or just leave as is

 

Maximum on the list is 44.  We can only go to 38 senior players if we don't use up the two spare rookie spots.  

 

[Dannyz 2,759]

Can we rookie Yze today? Surely we do. There’s a player in there. A nice project. 

[red and blue forever 1,030]

Final list update for the year 2024!

Welcome to the football club Ricky Mentha! as a "Cat.B rookie"

I am listing Moniz-wakefield as a "Cat.A rookie" I know there is some confusion as to this, It is possible he is still a "Cat.B"

this means we have 1 position available for a "Cat.B' player (this is to be confirmed as it may actually be three "Cat B" positions now!)

OR

we have 1 "Cat A" rookie spot left (and possibly 1 "Cat B" if the AFL have indeed increased the limit to three)

Hopefully the Club will Update us at some stage as to Moniz-Wakefield's Status

 

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In addition to these six rookie-listed players, each club can include up to three additional players (now referred to as Category B rookies) on its Rookie List provided the player either:

Hopefully the Club will Update us at some stage as to Moniz-Wakefield's Status

I will also start the New Contracts and List details 2025 page soon

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15 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Looking ahead … to the end of season 2025…potential changes 

retirement… McDonald, Melksham 

sitting on the edge are …potentially delistings 🔪 would include some of (or all of) … Spargo, Hore, Billings, Laurie, Fullarton, McAdam, Verrall, Sestan, Adams, Kentfield & Johnson. 

I think Dees will have up to 9 list changes to add at the end of 2025.  Definitely need to upgrade list before Tassie comes in and need to be tougher and more ruthless with list spots. 

Can't delist Johnson - minimum two year contract for draftees.  

Can't see Spargo being delisted.  He is best 22/borderline best 22 when fit (just had a horror run).

Billings and Fullarton seem the two most likely to go from the main list.  They need a big year - Billings in particular.  With Lindsay, Langford and Sharp coming through, can't seem him in the frame for a wing/HFF role. 

Melky to retire.  Campbell to retire if we have our eye on a ruck we can trade for, or if Verrall shows enough. Possibly McDonald, but I would say he gets another year on current form. 

We won't delist anyone with a contract for 2026, unless its by agreement.  Only player I could see us reaching an agreement with would be McAdam if he genuinely doesn't want to play. 

For the rookies, Hore would be feeling very nervous. Verrall or Kentfield are projects that need time - doubt they will be cut. AMW upgraded, possibly Brown too? 

So, in summary: Billings, Fullarton, Melky most likely off the main list in 2025.   McDonald, Campbell and/or McAdam next most likely to go.  Three to six changes, not accounting for trades.  Two to four draft picks, depending on who gets upgraded. 

Hore, AMW (upgraded), Brown (upgraded) off the rookie list. 

That would give us plenty to work with.  No need to cut deeper, particularly if it isn't a particularly deep draft and we don't have any top picks. While its all well and good to try and position ourselves for the Tassie team, if we can't actually get access to the top talent next year, we shouldn't cut any more than we need to. 

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Don’t like flooding this thread as it’s great as just an information source, but does the 43 list size now mean we have a spot for ssp pick and have a few train on as tryouts?

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4 hours ago, The end is nigh said:

Don’t like flooding this thread as it’s great as just an information source, but does the 43 list size now mean we have a spot for ssp pick and have a few train on as tryouts?

from my understanding we have 43 out of 44 payers, and have one "Category B Rookie" spot available

but there is some uncertantity, as the AFL (and I need to confirm this) I Believe have increased the "Category B rookie"  spots from 2 to 3.

unsure if they have also increased the maximum list size to 45, or if that extra "cat.B" player comes out of the 44 max list.