The biomechanist seems to be proceeding on the basis Maynard didn't know Brayshaw was there. That's false at the least, and indicates recklessness at the best. He's smothering the ball from front on - he has to know where the kicker is and therefore has far longer than 400 milliseconds to react - his "reaction" is the smother - seconds worth of time to plan and execute.

If he gets off I am done with the game - this includes being a member. Done. My kids will never be allowed to play either. 

4 minutes ago, Chook said:

 

This seems strange. It's a known human reflex to put out your arms and hands to break your fall. It's not a reflex to rotate your hip in the direction of the player you're hitting. That Maynard didn't put out his hands indicates some level of conscious reaction. In fact Maynard even admitted he saw Brayshaw and knew he was there.

I accept Maynard may have not acted consciously in remodelling himself as a cannonball. In that case, he did so instinctively and that instinct needs to be re-trained by disincentivisation. 

4 minutes ago, Tracca said:

it actually could bode well for us, if he had no concious time to reposition his body, then he conciously made the decision prior to jumping off the ground that he was going to make bumping contact with the player, whom he got head high

That's a very good point if the AFL lawyer has the sense to make it.  Since we can all see he did turn his shoulder, but the biomechnist said he wouldn't have time to change anything, then he must have premeditated it.  But I fear the AFL will say clear of premeditiation.

I don't understand, if Maynard didn't know Gus was 'there' - who was he smothering???

31 minutes ago, layzie said:

"He was in my way"

Your way? Can't imagine that helps.

Maynard: That incorrigible Brayshaw chap ran straight  into me after kicking the ball. 

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.

 

Damning to say the least and it's Maynard's witness

8 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Curious as to what 'research' the biomechanist is referring to.

Must be, decision within that period of smother to impact, cannot be conscious. 

I would argue for the 2 seconds leading up to the acts, that premeditates the movement. He consciously wanted to hurt and prepared his body to execute.

 

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by kev martin

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.

 

afl need to use this!!!!!

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.

 

🤪

7 minutes ago, Chook said:

 

This seems strange. It's a known human reflex to put out your arms and hands to break your fall. It's not a reflex to rotate your hip in the direction of the player you're hitting. That Maynard didn't put out his hands indicates some level of conscious reaction. In fact Maynard even admitted he saw Brayshaw and knew he was there.

Great point, Chook. Yes it is a reflective action to put your hands out to cushion a fall. It’s the same thing as involuntarily closing your eyes when something is flying towards them. 

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.

 

Damning to say the least and it's Maynard's witness

Frisbee... More like a 90kg missile.

So he was careless in turning himself into a projectile with little control of his body. 

 

6 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Curious as to what 'research' the biomechanist is referring to.

Probably the stuff they googled in the back of the Uber on the way to tribunal. 

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.
 

And just like that… the biochemist is my BFF

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.
 

And just like that… the biochemist is my BFF

what a star!

The Pies lemmings are in full force on twitter, saying the biomechanist is 'cooking'.

These guys are drongos. Wouldn't have read a damn thing of any educational value in any of their graceless, sad sack lives. abut  all of a sudden, an 'expert' fitting into their agenda is 'cooking'. They are all for science now (unless it concerns concussion). 

Righto.

Hhahaha

16 minutes ago, danielE288 said:

Biomechanist not helping our cause here.

Isn’t he brought in by Collingwood? 

The biomechnaist has concluded evidence. He is told he is free to stay if he likes. He makes the correct decision and immediately logs off.

 

DAMN.... It was going so well.

1 minute ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

The Pies lemmings are in full force on twitter, saying the biomechanist is 'cooking'.

These guys are drongos. Wouldn't have read a damn thing of any educational value in any of their graceless, sad sack lives. abut  all of a sudden, an 'expert' fitting into their agenda is 'cooking'. They are all for science now (unless it concerns concussion). 

Righto.

Give them a break ...it's a meth reference. 

3 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

Biomechanist: Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs.

 

🤪

That’s nonsense - in other sports you can alter position while airborne e.g. diving, gymnastics, trampolining

At the end of the day, he chose to jump forward into the player to smother.  He could have jumped sideways toward the ball not forward toward the player.  That is the definition of careless right there.

Having said that, I bet he gets off, the AFL love Collingwood and hate Melbourne

1 hour ago, leucopogon said:

Have we all forgotten this? Long time ago, granted.

I'm not condoning these sorts of actions and I will be happy to see if the AFL has evolved to stamp thus sort of stuff out of the game. 

 

As the commentator said: it was a 'square up' for an earlier incident on Viney. These are precisely the acts of brutality which need to wiped out: hence Maynard's case should be the line in the sand : NO MORE!

This biomechanist sounds like a real [censored]. I hope the AFL is taking notes. Hes helping us more than the Filth.

3 weeks   Pies appeal biomechanist fired.

What is this evidence from the biomechanist? The game is played in milliseconds. Players turn opponents in tackles, dodge opponents when their head is down. They’ve even learnt to drop their shoulders when anticipating contact. I’m sure lots of elbows have been raised within 400 milliseconds as well. But no, the players are seemingly not conscious of their decision making?

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by wisedog