PREGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

Due for big games from Langon, Hunter, Brayshaw, Salem and Fritta

Be great to hit our straps and have a strong performance from these 5

My big concern is defensive midfield

Hope Viney, Sparrow, ANB do a good job on their accumulators

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6 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

What time does the Big Freeze sliders start tomorrow? Looked online but couldn’t find anything. 

First slider… 2:05pm

Last slider… 2:50pm

[dazzledavey36 55,057]

41 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

We won’t and should not debut a kid as the sub. Especially the son of a former champion. It’s just not right. 

Romanticism should never come into play.

Too many of you folks get up in all of that and all the does is add unnecessary pressure on the kid.

Jordon simply shouldn't be a sub and it's obvious the Dees coaching ranks have thought real hard between JJ and Woey. So if that was the two options then Woey should be the preferred sub option for me.

Edited June 11, 2023 by dazzledavey36

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Someone placed a little sticker on the number plate of Nick Daicos’s car overnight…

 

😂😂😂

[McQueen 17,865]

What a [censored] game to include so many legs in multis on goalkicking!

Crucified. 

Edited June 11, 2023 by McQueen
Wrong thread whoops

[Jaded No More 68,967]

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Romanticism should never come into play.

Too many of you folks get up in all of that and all the does is add unnecessary pressure on the kid.

Jordon simply shouldn't be a sub and it's obvious the Dees coaching ranks have thought real hard between JJ and Woey. So if that was the two options then Woey should be the preferred sub option for me.

It’s not about romanticism. It’s about a kid who has worked damn hard and deserves to be selected to play and have all the same bells and whistles that every other debutant gets. 

Playing one quarter as a sub will do nothing for him, nor will it tell us if he’s able to hold his own at this level. Most players can’t impact much as sub unless they’re very experienced or play a very specific role (eg Melksham).  Why would you make a debutant fight for another game by making them sub and severely limiting their ability to impact the game? 
 
He will get a game sooner or later and it’ll be done properly. I also don’t think there’s any need to debut a kid in such a massive game. It’s a lot of unnecessary pressure. 

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6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s not about romanticism. It’s about a kid who has worked damn hard and deserves to be selected to play and have all the same bells and whistles that every other debutant gets. 

Playing one quarter as a sub will do nothing for him, nor will it tell us if he’s able to hold his own at this level. Most players can’t impact much as sub unless they’re very experienced or play a very specific role (eg Melksham).  Why would you make a debutant fight for another game by making them sub and severely limiting their ability to impact the game? 
 
He will get a game sooner or later and it’ll be done properly. I also don’t think there’s any need to debut a kid in such a massive game. It’s a lot of unnecessary pressure. 

He’s just a naughty boy atm. Sub him 

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5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s not about romanticism. It’s about a kid who has worked damn hard and deserves to be selected to play and have all the same bells and whistles that every other debutant gets. 

Playing one quarter as a sub will do nothing for him, nor will it tell us if he’s able to hold his own at this level. Most players can’t impact much as sub unless they’re very experienced or play a very specific role (eg Melksham).  Why would you make a debutant fight for another game by making them sub and severely limiting their ability to impact the game? 
 
He will get a game sooner or later and it’ll be done properly. I also don’t think there’s any need to debut a kid in such a massive game. It’s a lot of unnecessary pressure. 

It's not about romanticism?

You literally brought in the " We shouldn't debut him as a sub because he's the son of a club champion".. lol

If he was the sub the coaches would be doing a great job reminding him that the sub role isn't purely for one quarter bit to expect to come on at any time. Expect the unexpected, especially when injuries could easily come in the first quarter.

It really isn't he worst option for a debut.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

I mean what kind of mid 1800s infectious diseases circus is the afl running when CLEARLY INFECTIOUS Collingwood players can spread the flu amongst the oppo

jesus wept 

We have no idea whether there's any truth to these stories or not SU.

Wouldn't believe anything that comes out of clubland and personally i haven't for decades now.

And especially anything coming from the filth.

[McQueen 17,865]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It's not about romanticism?

You literally brought in the " We shouldn't debut him as a sub because he's the son of a club champion".. lol

If he was the sub the coaches would be doing a great job reminding him that the sub role isn't purely for one quarter bit to expect to come on at any time. Expect the unexpected, especially when injuries could easily come in the first quarter.

It really isn't he worst option for a debut.

And I’m sure that feeling of feeling okay about it is a little bit anchored in the knowledge that as a ‘sub’ nowadays you can be inserted into the game at any time. 

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45 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

First slider… 2:05pm

Last slider… 2:50pm

My last one will be going down just before the bounce

[Jaded No More 68,967]

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It's not about romanticism?

You literally brought in the " We shouldn't debut him as a sub because he's the son of a club champion".. lol

If he was the sub the coaches would be doing a great job reminding him that the sub role isn't purely for one quarter bit to expect to come on at any time. Expect the unexpected, especially when injuries could easily come in the first quarter.

It really isn't he worst option for a debut.

I’ve said the same thing about every player to make a debut, regardless of who they are or aren’t related to. Debuting someone in the sub role is a [censored] move and it’s why clubs rarely do it. 

That he is the son of a club champion that we treated like trash just makes it even worse that we would debut him as the sub. 

JJ is a good sub option as he can play multiple positions. 

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6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I’ve said the same thing about every player to make a debut, regardless of who they are or aren’t related to. Debuting someone in the sub role is a [censored] move and it’s why clubs rarely do it. 

That he is the son of a club champion that we treated like trash just makes it even worse that we would debut him as the sub. 

JJ is a good sub option as he can play multiple positions. 

You honestly think Shane and the club actually take this into account 😅

Think the family would be super proud of Taj whether he's a starting sub or full game. This is about Taj, not Shane or a decision that occurred 21 years ago.....

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I think we can let the whole Taj sub or not to sub alone now

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27 minutes ago, McQueen said:

And I’m sure that feeling of feeling okay about it is a little bit anchored in the knowledge that as a ‘sub’ nowadays you can be inserted into the game at any time. 

100%

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1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

I’ve said the same thing about every player to make a debut, regardless of who they are or aren’t related to. Debuting someone in the sub role is a [censored] move and it’s why clubs rarely do it. 

That he is the son of a club champion that we treated like trash just makes it even worse that we would debut him as the sub. 

JJ is a good sub option as he can play multiple positions. 

Take young Tex Wanganeen for example. Made his debut as sub which upset many of their supporters, not least of all his dad. It’s got nothing to do with romanticism and everything to do with respect and confidence-building. A club’s mental health professionals can explain to a YOUNG person why being debuted as a sub isn’t a terrible thing but the fact that they’re YOUNG means it mightn’t have the desired effect.

18-year-olds are basically still kids. No one should expect them to react to anything like an adult would. 

Edited June 11, 2023 by WalkingCivilWar

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JJ will be sub and he's the right choice all around.

[dl4e 5,851]

I hate the filth but for the life of me I can't see us winning. We are not playing good footy.

[Vipercrunch 2,827]

Not sure why, perhaps it’s the last time we had a 10 day break and really needed a statement win, but I’m hoping for a similar performance to that of round 15 last season when we smashed the Lions at the G.  It was one of our best performances of the year (up there with round 20 against Freo and round 23 again against the Lions) but unfortunately it was far better than the form we showed in the finals.  Now, as we are passed the half way mark of the season, things really gets interesting and we get to see if we truly have learned the lessons from last season and can correctly get everything peaking when it matters. So I hope tomorrow is a statement game, but only a hint of what’s to come.

[bobby1554 1,244]

24 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I hate the filth but for the life of me I can't see us winning. We are not playing good footy.

I agree. I can’t see where the goals are going to come from. I think we will struggle to kick more than 60 points, which won’t be enough. 

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31 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I hate the filth but for the life of me I can't see us winning. We are not playing good footy.

I can understand this. I live in hope that the challenge that the filth present will concentrate the minds of our players and will turn their collective form around.

Dees by 21points after a strong 4th quarter.

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3 hours ago, Vineytime said:

What time does the Big Freeze sliders start tomorrow? Looked online but couldn’t find anything. 

2pm

You can always find the schedule of events for games like Kings Birthday or Anzac eve here:

https://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar

Just click on our game, then scroll down a bit.

[redandbluemakepurple 359]

I reckon the Maggies will try to rough up JVR as they did Jack Watts.  I hope and expect the current all-for-one team will this time sort them out.

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

4 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Due for big games from Langon, Hunter, Brayshaw, Salem and Fritta

Be great to hit our straps and have a strong performance from these 5

My big concern is defensive midfield

Hope Viney, Sparrow, ANB do a good job on their accumulators

Add Pickett to this list.

[Demonland 72,466]