TRAINING: Monday 29th May, 2023

[kev martin 9,897]

43 minutes ago, rjay said:

Yes 'Webber' has said that before...take it from the physio.

Strains are a kind way of saying you've torn your hammy...

Could be tendon related/strain.

They will flair after a heavy work load.

I understand they take longer to heal, 4 to 6 weeks.

I think we have to wait till Oliver starts sprinting, with a work load of greater than 30 minutes. 

Didn't appeared hampered when training.

I also watched him on Saturday afternoon. He was covering a fair bit of distance, moving over at least 3/4 of the paddock, but never sprinting. 

Edited May 29, 2023 by kev martin

[John Demonic 5,797]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

1000% this.

This is a generational player. I would rather lose KB 10 times over, than lose Clarry for the season or have him struggle with recurring hamstrings for the rest of his career. 

Losing KB is inconsequential, losing Clarry to long term injury is not. 

Still not used to the Kings Birthday. Thought you were nonsensically talking about losing Kevin Bartlett for a minute, and then scrambled to think which player on our list is KB if not.

Edited May 29, 2023 by John Demonic

[Sydee 4,444]

1 hour ago, Older demon said:

I spoke with an insider Saturday at lunch. Clarrie has a strain not a tear. We compared notes too in our day and it has all changed. Rehab starts with immediate exercise gradually increasing the load till certain goals are achieved, remember he didn't tear the muscle. The downside is it is less predictable when he will have rehabbed to the point where they let him play.

Thanks, Kev for the update. Did Schache train with the defenders? I suspect Hibbo due for a rest and an extra tall down back to mimic Petty. With De Koening playing as third tall Tomlinson or Schache will be needed to support May and Lever (the latter who cannot hold onto his marks atm) 

Tomlinson doesn't have a great record against taller opponents so I reckon we might have to roll the dice and ask Schache to do a job - has played ok in D50 before with the dogs I think🤔. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

4 hours ago, kev martin said:

Oliver with the main group, as is Grundy.

Those doing there own warm ups include, Tmac, Spargo, Hibbo, Friitta, BBB, and J.Smith. All in runners except BBB.

Rehab, is K.Turner. 

Spargo, BBB, J.Smith, and Tmac, join the main group. Now, Hibbo has joined.

Schache, with the main group.

Petty, is doing his own program.

They have put a barbecue on for staff, the kids and I assume anyone else.

Have they put the BBQ on to say sorry we have lost 2 in a row? 😋

Edited May 29, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[Deemania since 56 6,640]

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I wouldn't want to be the person responsible for him being the next Luke Shuey...

You get it wrong and it can dog you the rest of your career.

If we're smart we will be really conservative on this one.

Oliver is more important than one game.

Too bleeding right!

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

1 hour ago, Damo said:

My understanding is that tears and strains are the same. But Mild Strains (Grade 1) are at least 3 weeks recovery.

Would be a disaster by the medical team to allow Clarry to play before Kings Bday regardless of the Brownlow.

Monday June 12th will be the 24th day since his hammy strain, it will be healed nicely if his rehab goes to plan.

[kev martin 9,897]

1 minute ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Have they put the BBQ on to say sorry we have lost 2 in a row?

It was the Demon Army, thanking them for getting so close to winning, as well as thanking all the hard working staff for the behind the scenes actions. More importantly it was the acknowledgement of, and coming together with, our first nations peoples. 

I get the feeling they aren't taking it as serious as some spectators. 

They were jovial today, and I imagine they are keeping their spirits up, and working on the deficiencies. 

[DeeZone 9,848]

2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Nah @old dee. Miracles happen heaps. Carlscum haven't won a premiership in almost 30 years. Essenscum haven't won a final in 645,984 days and the Deez were paid a free kick in their forward half in round 2, 2019.

Ha ha that’s about 1,700 years if only and the F50 free kick would be close to the mark. Lol.!!!

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

7 minutes ago, kev martin said:

It was the Demon Army, thanking them for getting so close to winning, as well as thanking all the hard working staff for the behind the scenes actions. More importantly it was the acknowledgement of, and coming together with, our first nations peoples. 

I get the feeling they aren't taking it as serious as some spectators. 

They were jovial today, and I imagine they are keeping their spirits up, and working on the deficiencies. 

Great reporting as usual Kev, im sure the brains trust will come up with something to cure our Forward line, Stoppages and clearance worries.🙏

[DeeZone 9,848]

Thanks Kev and all posters very entertaining thread today, so informative and glad that Clarry is doing so well and that the Demon Army were there to feed all comers Top Effort.!!!

Edited May 29, 2023 by DeeZone

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,787]

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Miracles do happen even if rarely.

And if they happen twice you become a Saint. 

Not sure why becoming a St Kilda player is considered so highly, though.

[Roger Mellie 4,032]

Thanks @kev martin! Was Verrall out there today?

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3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

“The other one was all handballs. They had to go quick because of the numerous balls in play. On one end of the formation, they were on their knees, flicking the ball up, after it hit the ground ahead of them”. 
 

Hasn’t this drill been done a thousand times over.  It’s not our issue.  I’d have them running and kicking and running. And then running and kicking and hitting targets.  With players leading up and demanding the footy. And have another group of players putting under pressure.  A chase from behind with 5 metre split “head start “.  And lots of discussion if targets aren’t hit.  That’s the need.  Oh and shown them what the “corridor “ is.  

This session really wasn’t anything to go by. It went for less than 30 minutes and was more for show. The focus this morning was the acknowledgment and celebration of Reconciliation Week. Melksy was one of the last players to head back inside. He stopped for a sausage In bread which he quickly ate while standing at our tent. He said, “I’ve gotta go! We’ve got training now.” I said, “But you’ve just had training.” He said, “Real training.” Idk if he meant indoor training or that they were coming back out once everyone had left. However, we were there for another 20 mins or so finishing packing up and there was no sign of them coming back out. 

[kev martin 9,897]

21 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Thanks @kev martin! Was Verrall out there today?

No sign if him. That is two weeks, on the Monday's, in a row.

Edited May 29, 2023 by kev martin

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1 hour ago, kev martin said:

It was the Demon Army, thanking them for getting so close to winning, as well as thanking all the hard working staff for the behind the scenes actions. More importantly it was the acknowledgement of, and coming together with, our first nations peoples. 

I get the feeling they aren't taking it as serious as some spectators. 

They were jovial today, and I imagine they are keeping their spirits up, and working on the deficiencies. 

Whereas it’s usually the DA putting on the BBQ, the Club actually organised this morning’s event, Kev. They provided the food and we provided the BBQs and utensils etc. and we manned the BBQ. It wasn’t a fundraiser like our usual BBQs are.

And yes, there was definitely an air of joviality and fun. The players and coaches were genuinely enjoying themselves, as were the many MFC staff members, all deservedly so. Just a great vibe in general. Such a tonic after reading some of the ridiculous end of the world comments on here… and I didn’t even go anywhere near the postgame thread!!! 

[Roost it far 8,278]

6 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Whereas it’s usually the DA putting on the BBQ, the Club actually organised this morning’s event, Kev. They provided the food and we provided the BBQs and utensils etc. and we manned the BBQ. It wasn’t a fundraiser like our usual BBQs are.

And yes, there was definitely an air of joviality and fun. The players and coaches were genuinely enjoying themselves, as were the many MFC staff members, all deservedly so. Just a great vibe in general. Such a tonic after reading some of the ridiculous end of the world comments on here… and I didn’t even go anywhere near the postgame thread!!! 

Did you let them know that I’m not enjoying my team this year?

[old dee 23,792]

15 minutes ago, kev martin said:

No sign if him. That is two weeks, on the Monday's, in a row.

Might be the dreaded 426.

[Jeremy 981]

19 minutes ago, kev martin said:

No sign if him. That is two weeks, on the Monday's, in a row.

He was there. Shaved his head. Saw him in a photo 

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1 minute ago, Lewis said:

He was there. Shaved his head. Saw him in a photo 

I TOLD HIM TO NOT SHAVE HIS HEAD!!!! He promised me he wouldn’t! He promised he’d wear a headband. Geez, you think you know someone (we only chatted for about 20 mins but that’s knowing someone, right?!). 😭😭😭

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11 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Did you let them know that I’m not enjoying my team this year?

Of course I did! Would be remiss of me not to. They said (in unison) “Please tell Roost It Far we sincerely apologise unreservedly, and we promise to play out of our collective skins to win every single match from here on in purely to ensure his enjoyment of his team, for it is his enjoyment of his team that should be and will be at the forefront of our collective minds.”

Happy with that? 

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Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

Of course I did! Would be remiss of me not to. They said (in unison) “Please tell Roost It Far we sincerely apologise unreservedly, and we promise to play out of our collective skins to win every single match from here on in purely to ensure his enjoyment of his team, for it is his enjoyment of his team that should be and will be at the forefront of our collective minds.”

Happy with that? 

That should do it, you can also tell Langdon to find his mojo

[kev martin 9,897]

17 minutes ago, Lewis said:

He was there. Shaved his head. Saw him in a photo 

Missed that, good chance he turned up late to rehab, was incognito doing the main training, or made his way down for the celebrations. 

[old dee 23,792]

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Still not used to the Kings Birthday. Thought you were nonsensically talking about losing Kevin Bartlett for a minute, and then scrambled to think which player on our list is KB if not.

Me too JD. 

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1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

That should do it, you can also tell Langdon to find his mojo

I already did. He said, “Please tell Roost it Far to GAGF.”

🤷‍♀️ 
 

[Roost it far 8,278]

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I already did. He said, “Please tell Roost it Far to GAGF.”

🤷‍♀️ 
 

Hahahaha