TRAINING: Monday 22nd May, 2023

[Gawndy the Great 7,855]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Dare I take this as a good sign that it's a minor 1-2 week injury and he'll back for Kings B'day??

  is there even such a thing as a minor 1-2? i thought minimum for the smallest of tears was 3 weeks. This equates to tightness / awareness / low strain etc. 

The best we can hope for is cramp, but the way he pulled at it suggests to me 3 week min. So we work towards a return for Geelong. 

[kev martin 9,327]

Had a chat to to a volunteer after the session.

He reckons Oliver, will be out for 4 weeks, JJ or Harmes to come in, and that Dunstan is still struggling with his knee.

[dazzledavey36 49,592]

37 minutes ago, kev martin said:

He is moving OK, but only short movements. No strapping and feeling the top of his left quad.

Scared and fell I'm imposing if I take his attention away from what he is doing.

Oliver has entered the field, doing some resistance work and also going a bit harder. 

Now a bit more, does some switching with his steps, looking comfortable, all smiles, and Petty who is close by gives him a hug.

He has put on a stretch strapping and doing some slow 50 meter run throughs under a timer.

Carrying a ball, doing small kicks, Tracc has a hand slap with him, looking positive and on the low side of grading.

No way Oliver is able to do these straight away after a hamstring tear. A tear has too much discomfort when walking etc.

It's either badly tight or at least a low grade hamstring strain which could be 2-3 weeks max.

Edited May 22, 2023 by dazzledavey36

[picket fence 15,706]

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No way Oliver is able to do these straight away after a hamstring tear. A tear has too much discomfort when walking etc.

It's either badly tight or at least a low grade hamstring strain which could be 2-3 weeks max.

As usual,  you are on the money Dazzle!

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,055]

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Took a while to spot him, Dunstan is in full training mode.

I think they are testing him out physically. 

One of the last to leave the paddock, after doing some low ball gets.

This might be Dunstan's chance but by the sound of things Clarry could be foxing.

Edited May 22, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[YearOfTheDees 3,123]

As good as Oliver is, if we cannot cover him for a few weeks we are not the team I thought we were.

[Slartibartfast 16,081]

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No way Oliver is able to do these straight away after a hamstring tear. A tear has too much discomfort when walking etc.

It's either badly tight or at least a low grade hamstring strain which could be 2-3 weeks max.

Just like Steven May.  

We'll find out soon enough.  Thanks very much Kev for your time and efforts to report back. Much appreciated.

[dazzledavey36 49,592]

6 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Just like Steven May.  

We'll find out soon enough.  Thanks very much Kev for your time and efforts to report back. Much appreciated.

Hence why I said it's hopefully on the minor (small strain) side of missing a week or two...

Edited May 22, 2023 by dazzledavey36

[Jaded No More 59,543]

51 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Had a chat to to a volunteer after the session.

He reckons Oliver, will be out for 4 weeks, JJ or Harmes to come in, and that Dunstan is still struggling with his knee.

How was Petty moving?

[kev martin 9,327]

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

How was Petty moving?

Petty was in rehab, doing simple exercises, no running.

Edited May 22, 2023 by kev martin

[DeeZone 8,069]

Thanks Kev and all posters that is great that Clayton was able to get on the track at least and great that we have posters that have the experience to put forward great anecdotal observations re timeframes and injury types. Greatly appreciated.!!

[monoccular 16,516]

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Does Clayton Oliver have two hamstrings or just one now?

Actually, not wishing to be too pedantic - OK, I am  🙄 - he, like all of us, have three on each side. 

2 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

  is there even such a thing as a minor 1-2? i thought minimum for the smallest of tears was 3 weeks. This equates to tightness / awareness / low strain etc. 

The best we can hope for is cramp, but the way he pulled at it suggests to me 3 week min. So we work towards a return for Geelong. 

Maybe the scan showed no tear at all and he was just suffering from cramp?   Doesn’t sound like he would be allowed to, or feel able to do, those exercises were there any tear at all. 

[Dee Boys 268]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

[censored] it, get him in.

No idea why we would bring in someone who has proven time and time and time again that his disposal is nowhere near AFL standard. Buckley extremely sensible on this here:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/21/how-the-demons-can-cover-for-injured-oliver/

[layzie 30,065]

2 hours ago, kev martin said:

He is moving OK, but only short movements. No strapping and feeling the top of his left quad.

Scared and fell I'm imposing if I take his attention away from what he is doing.

Oliver has entered the field, doing some resistance work and also going a bit harder. 

Now a bit more, does some switching with his steps, looking comfortable, all smiles, and Petty who is close by gives him a hug.

He has put on a stretch strapping and doing some slow 50 meter run throughs under a timer.

Carrying a ball, doing small kicks, Tracc has a hand slap with him, looking positive and on the low side of grading.

Did he feel the back of his thigh at any point?

[Demon Dynasty 16,176]

Thanks vm for another super update Kev 👏🏼👍🏻

[demon3165 2,221]

3 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

I was not talking about weekly ins or outs....just a few possible positional changes.

Fwiw none of your changes are overly inspiring.   We are going to look a much less talented team on paper this week. 

*Clearly if players are injured or suspended they will need replacements...but that is pretty darn obvious!

Well if they continue to bomb the ball into the forward line then they may as well give Smith a go, at least he will crash the pack and cause the pill to the ground.

[dazzledavey36 49,592]

47 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

No idea why we would bring in someone who has proven time and time and time again that his disposal is nowhere near AFL standard. Buckley extremely sensible on this here:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/21/how-the-demons-can-cover-for-injured-oliver/

He'll fit in well with the rest of our mids then. 

[kev martin 9,327]

44 minutes ago, layzie said:

Did he feel the back of his thigh at any point?

No, more the front of it.

Started with some stretches, hip raises. I have included a sketch. 

[Demon Dynasty 16,176]

Fritsch also in for scans apparently

[kev martin 9,327]

15 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Fritsch also in for scans apparently

Fritta didn't do too much at training. Some work with the resistance band, and leg stretches.

This has been his normal weekly preparation for some time now.

[Jeremy 703]

How was Petracca looking? Hopefully not hindered by the ankle too much, will need a big game this week from him. 

[kev martin 9,327]

3 minutes ago, Lewis said:

How was Petracca looking? Hopefully not hindered by the ankle too much, will need a big game this week from him. 

First out and last off the paddock.

[Gawndy the Great 7,855]

48 minutes ago, kev martin said:

No, more the front of it.

Started with some stretches, hip raises. I have included a sketch. 

interesting Kev. My physio got me to do a modified version of this to test whether my 'hammy' was muscle or nerve related. Basically said if i could do this its more nerve related than muscle fibre.

I was convinced i pinged the hammy but  it resolved itself within a week without much work being done on it. 

[kev martin 9,327]

37 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

My physio got me to do a modified version of this to test whether my 'hammy' was muscle or nerve related. Basically said if i could do this its more nerve related than muscle fibre

The clubs physio was right next to him at the time, guiding him through the process. Also, feeling the area where the leg bone meets the hip bone, at the front.

After this assessment, he went and did some short easy run throughs with some sideways movement. Talked to the physio, and after putting on an elastic support, had numerous (at least 10), slowish, 50 meter timed run throughs.

Edited May 22, 2023 by kev martin

[Demon Dynasty 16,176]

32 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Fritta didn't do too much at training. Some work with the resistance band, and leg stretches.

This has been his normal weekly preparation for some time now.

I understand thanks Kev.  Maybe scans were y'day as per Clarry IF they took place at all