Welcome to Demonland Matthew Jefferson

[BringBackTheDemon 104]

46 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I'd be staggered if 1) TMac wasn't offered another deal and 2) if he went elsewhere. Why? Just do your rolling one year deals, that way if you want to move on or the club does, there's no pressure.

TMac has been pretty honest about being near the end and looking to a post footy life.

I think he stays with us for another or two potentially or he retires.

 Ive got no issue with offering him a one year deal and keeping him but I think he could get offered more elsewhere given the lack of KPDs like @DeeSpencer said above.  

[Fat Tony 5,071]

20 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I'd be quite happy to offer TMac two years on a vet wage to stave off competition for his signature.

Not sure we'd be freeing up a huge amount of salary by moving him on, and he knows our system and football club. Makes no sense to move on IMO.

Two years would be stupid. One year for TMac but we should try to retain him. 

[SPC 3,475]

If it was up to me, I would give him a run this weekend and get Picket to hold his hand and run through the banner.. 

Banner to read…, “There’s been lots of talking this kid up from Picket…. now get Jeffo the ball and watch him Kick it”

[Adam The God 29,292]

13 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Two years would be stupid. One year for TMac but we should try to retain him. 

It completely depends what the financial outlay is. He's a veteran who would not command big dollars, and since he is with us, we don't need to pay an inflationary wage in order to woo him over.

You can't have it both ways. If he gets another offer, I'd be offering two, otherwise he'll likely accept the one year deal from us.

[Fat Tony 5,071]

11 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

It completely depends what the financial outlay is. He's a veteran who would not command big dollars, and since he is with us, we don't need to pay an inflationary wage in order to woo him over.

You can't have it both ways. If he gets another offer, I'd be offering two, otherwise he'll likely accept the one year deal from us.

TMac is has been good this year, but he is replaceable and unlikely to be part of our next flag.

Turner and Petty can go back. Tomlinson could stay. We have played only May and Lever at times, with Rivers the third tall.

[Adam The God 29,292]

1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

TMac is has been good this year, but he is replaceable and unlikely to be part of our next flag.

Turner and Petty can go back. Tomlinson could stay. We have played only May and Lever at times, with Rivers the third tall.

I agree, and if TMac hangs them up this year, so be it, but as we've seen over the last few years, good AFL KPPs are hard to find.

If TMac retires, if May keeps getting injured, all of a sudden we are struggling to fill some of those key tall posts.

It's why I think we should definitely go after Wright as he fills 2nd ruck need too. And I wouldn't be against Taylor Walker either if it gets the right sign offs.

[Fat Tony 5,071]

6 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I agree, and if TMac hangs them up this year, so be it, but as we've seen over the last few years, good AFL KPPs are hard to find.

If TMac retires, if May keeps getting injured, all of a sudden we are struggling to fill some of those key tall posts.

It's why I think we should definitely go after Wright as he fills 2nd ruck need too. And I wouldn't be against Taylor Walker either if it gets the right sign offs.

Walker should be a prime target given role and the money. 

Wright looks great on paper but is such a liability below his knees. I think JVR is better the way footy is played in 2024.

[Young Angus 685]

JVR + El Jeffo the future!

[Engorged Onion 10,117]

46 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

TMac is has been good this year, but he is replaceable and unlikely to be part of our next flag.

Turner and Petty can go back. Tomlinson could stay. We have played only May and Lever at times, with Rivers the third tall.

Best question to ask is that one - who is part of the next flag?

Now comparing these two isn’t fair due to age but 5 years ago there was no way ANB would have been seen as key part of the flag. AND sometimes people surprise us.

You’d prefer it to be on Tom’s terms and it’s probably time to move on to a fine fine servant who had seen all the peaks and troughs of a club originally in disarray and rebuilt himself and his skill set  numerous times. We don’t win the flag without him 😎

Edited August 12 by Engorged Onion

[monoccular 17,305]

6 hours ago, roy11 said:

BBB has currently outscored him with 7 goals and he played 6 games this year.

BBB plays far deeper than Petty most of the time.

But yes, more goals would be great but he is playing the rôle asked of him. 

[monoccular 17,305]

44 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

TMac is has been good this year, but he is replaceable and unlikely to be part of our next flag.

Turner and Petty can go back. Tomlinson could stay. We have played only May and Lever at times, with Rivers the third tall.

He could well be part of our 2025 flag. 

[Engorged Onion 10,117]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

He could well be part of our 2025 flag. 

That's the spirit! Do you frequent the "Time To Go Goody" thread much?

[BringBackTheDemon 104]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

He could well be part of our 2025 flag. 

Each to their own but I dont see it. Would hope Petty is back there (still a gun defender in my eyes and much better than TMac at shutting down a dangerous opponent) and we have a forward solution sorted if Jefferson still hasn't done enough to warrant selection and consistently get a game. Wouldnt mind Wright as our forward ruck, anything that keeps JVR out of the ruck and focussing solely on being our #1 KPF is good with me. 

Edited August 12 by BringBackTheDemon

[monoccular 17,305]

5 hours ago, monoccular said:

He could well be part of our 2025 flag. 

 

3 hours ago, BringBackTheDemon said:

Each to their own but I dont see it. Would hope Petty is back there (still a gun defender in my eyes and much better than TMac at shutting down a dangerous opponent) and we have a forward solution sorted if Jefferson still hasn't done enough to warrant selection and consistently get a game. Wouldnt mind Wright as our forward ruck, anything that keeps JVR out of the ruck and focussing solely on being our #1 KPF is good with me. 

I was just being super optimistic as there is so much pessimism promulgated on this site.  But then, who knows?

Agree 100% about desperately trying to find a solution that allows JVR to concentrate on becoming  an elite  KPF, even though that may  require the odd deep forward ruck contest.

[picket fence 16,631]

We are WAITING 

[SPC 3,475]

Tracc only wants out cause he is sick of Jeffo being overlooked 

[Jaded No More 67,600]

1 minute ago, SPC said:

Tracc only wants out cause he is sick of Jeffo being overlooked 

Nah I heard from a reliable source that it's because he doesn't want Petty to play as a forward.

[Ted Lasso 18,744]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Nah I heard from a reliable source that it's because he doesn't want Petty to play as a forward.

I heard he misses Brodie Grundy!

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 4,739]

Re discussion of TMac herein: In interview he made the clear observation that he had changed his attitude for 2024, with a purpose in playing on (reasonably successfully it now seems) - and his ongoing guide through the year - being 'to have fun'.

So, a decision to continue will be his more than the Club's, I suspect, and the question will be, 'Can I expect 2025 to be fun?' (indeed, 'Am I having fun at the moment?')

[FreedFromDesire 586]

With no sign of a debut video, and no rumours around of Jefferson playing this week; it seems he will not be picked. If this is the case, I believe the club has not read the room. Not only does the comparative form of he and those he could replace make it a worthwhile decision, but with supporters continually calling for it for weeks it would be a much welcome piece of positive news at a time where supporters are absolutely desperate for some.

I wouldn't suggest he should debut purely based on supporter sentiment of course, he deserves a game as it stands on it's own. Perhaps they're saving it for the MCG, but I do feel we will miss a trick by not playing him.

[adonski 10,788]

[waynewussell 4,842]

Let's see... if Jefferson is in, who goes out? Melksham? Disco? JVR? Petty? He may get the Sub job... no, not versatile enough!

[FreedFromDesire 586]

3 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Let's see... if Jefferson is in, who goes out? Melksham? Disco? JVR? Petty? He may get the Sub job... no, not versatile enough!

Personally, I'd go Tomlinson out, Petty back, Jefferson forward. I prefer Turner as a forward to Petty, he has good agility, great hands, and, at least this year, a better set shot. I very much doubt that's what selection committee will go with, but that's what I would like to have a look at. Petty has been inch by inch getting some kind of form, but he's still not really impacting the scoreboard and I'd love to see us 'loose the chains' this week and play more attacking footy.

[Heart Beats True 1,071]

I have a feeling that in T minus 30 minutes, PF may just explode with anger. Prepare yourselves.

[picket fence 16,631]

24 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Personally, I'd go Tomlinson out, Petty back, Jefferson forward. I prefer Turner as a forward to Petty, he has good agility, great hands, and, at least this year, a better set shot. I very much doubt that's what selection committee will go with, but that's what I would like to have a look at. Petty has been inch by inch getting some kind of form, but he's still not really impacting the scoreboard and I'd love to see us 'loose the chains' this week and play more attacking footy.

BUMP THIS, but club which has the BEST CULTURE going around🤮 refuses to play a guy who actually HAS FORWARD form! OOOHH SHEEEIT i forgot.... we have Royce Hart playing at CHF!