Brown - time has elapsed

Carroll - instills no confidence

P Johnson - devoid of urgency

C. Johnson - showed gradual improvement

Rivers - totally dominated opponent

Bate - poor handling skills

Yze - back to mediocrity

Moloney - a determined effort

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact

Johnstone - was totally subdued

Davey - made impact again

Pickett - almost totally disinterested

Dunn - a disappointing result

Bell - some crucial errors

Miller - better up forward

Godfrey - showed great endeavour

Bruce - prolific ball winner

White - 4 quarter performance

Sylvia - couldn't find rhythm

Jamar - made no impact

McDonald - few centre clearances

Brown - time has elapsed

Carroll - instills no confidence

P Johnson - totally urgency devoid

C. Johnson - showed gradual improvement

Rivers - totally dominated opponent

Bate - poor handling skills

Yze - back to mediocrity

Moloney - a determined effort

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact

Johnstone - was totally subdued

Davey - made impact again

Pickett - almost totally uninterested

Dunn - a disappointing result

Bell - some crucial errors

Miller - better up forward

Godfrey - showed great endeavour

Bruce - prolific ball winner

White - 4 quarter performance

Sylvia - couldn't find rhythm

Jamar - made no impact

McDonald - few centre clearances

disagree on Bate and Dunn, agree on Jamar and Brown. Sylvia needs to take a long hard look at himself and go in and get the ball, just because you go at no. 3 doesn't mean your gunna make it

White got beaten badly

PJ actually looked OK when he was put into the ruck, in the limited time he had contesting the ruck work he looked better than White and Jamar.

Agree on everything but the Bell assessment.

Yet again, the guy gets no credit. He did an incredible job on O'Keefe, the sort of player who always rips us apart.

After being smashed in the head 3 weeks in a row, he stood tall again tonight and was composed. His disposal is getting better and better.

I think that you have to give credit to both Bell and Rivers who, time and time again, are willing to leave their opponent and help out a teammate.

Being a defender in times like these, is truly a horrible job.

Bate was much better this week, but a real pity about the injury.

Miller should never EVER be put in the position he was put in tonight. He has played one good game on Hall, where Hall kicked badly. He is a completely different player up forward, and gives us a target when everyone else is down. His goal kicking is ordinary (maybe he's gone to the Cameron Bruce school of kicking?), but his overall disposal is getting better and smarter every week.

He's making real progress up forward, why shatter his confidence by letting Hall rip him apart? Thank god the experiment only lasted a quarter.

White got beaten badly

PJ actually looked OK when he was put into the ruck, in the limited time he had contesting the ruck work he looked better than White and Jamar.

I agree with this. White is the most overated player on our list. If we rucked with Jamar and Johnson, we would do no worse in the ruck or around the ground than we already are.

I thought Sylvia has struggled when he is put forward. I thought he actually did a lot better tonight when moved to half back.

White's game was extremely disappointing. I think he needs to play the Peter Moore Ruckman roll now where he plays a kick behind play. I was hoping this was going to be Jamar's year, but he's almost gone - provided nothing tonight.

Bell was good.

I only saw first 3 quarters i didn't think Yze was mediocre... he tried hard and wasn't in out worst i thought?

I haven't seen a replay as yet but mine and my dads initial opinions were fairly similar to joeboy's.......

Apart from Bell who was good, despite a shocking kick for goal in the third and a couple of errors, he was given a tough assignment on O'keefe and held him pretty well. He definitely deserves a hell of a lot more credit than he gets. He was everywhere and against the odds damn good.

Miller was leading all day and again worked very hard and looked pretty good (his goal kicking still needs work obviously but he took some nice marks, which can only be a good thing for his confidence), after the first fifteen or so minutes, and should never be put back again. There was a noticeable groan from the crowd when he went to Hall in the beginning.

And his switch forward, which automatically made us look better, could possibly have been the quickest positional change Daniher has ever made!!!

Petterd had a really great debut and his goal in the last was great to watch, Davey was fantastic, Yze didn't completely suck, Bruce got a lot of ball but didn't seem do a hell of a lot with it (he needs to have some target practice), and Godfrey seemed to be everywhere and trying very hard.

But the problems were in the middle, again, I am not sure just how many clearances we actually won but it really couldn't have been too many. The ease in which the Swans were taking it away and out of the middle was embarrassing. And this is despite the full hearted effort from Moloney.

I only saw first 3 quarters i didn't think Yze was mediocre... he tried hard and wasn't in out worst i thought?

That's the biggest compliment that has been routinely placed at Yze when the truth is the game has passed him by.

Johnstone- very lazy, has to improve his work ethic

P Johnson - Showed more than jamar and used his body well in the ruck against spider and found the ball around the ground

C. Johnson - showed improvement, and more game time will see him improve, but he needs to consistently go for the hard ball like he did last year against the saints and eagles

Bate -unfortuneately injured, but all he needs is time and experience and will improve

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact, that's because there was no impact to be made with the way sydney dominated the game

Bell - Getting better with each game he plays, and has been consistently one of our best

Miller - Needs to gain some more strength, with the way bazza handled him and needs to take more contested grabs to make his presence felt

Godfrey - very poor, disposal was no good and the only reason he beat goodes was his injury

Sylvia - same as bate, but he is recovering from injury, although someone needs to teach him the right way to go at the ball like mclean does

Jamar - made no impact, useless in the ruck and up forward, doesn't no how to read the ball in the air and kicking was poor and he will probably be delisted unless he can doing something about it

CD your assement on Godders is a joke

the problem with godders is that even though he did well on goodes (who got injured) was he had 4 critical errors (the age)

and that will always be the problem, when bartram is back i dare say godfrey will dissapear

i am still smiling over petterd, look forward to seeing him play against port

Jamar - Back to Sandy (permanently)

Petterd - well done son

Garland - not quite yet

Brown - not a forward

Carroll - good in parts

P Johnson - learning backmans trade (will take time fellas!)

C. Johnson - kept his spot (just)

Rivers - best MFC defender

Bate - nearly there, nearly

Yze - so so performance

Moloney - injured yet great

Petterd - Gem debut game!

Garland - not afl ready

Johnstone - no longer elite

Davey - rounding into form

Pickett - a major concern

Dunn - Good in parts

Bell - hard tackles made

Miller - forward, not back

Godfrey - best 22 ATM

Bruce - finding the footy

White - Good, not dominant

Sylvia - couldnt make impact

Jamar - running out of chances

McDonald - cant break out

Brown - last Melbourne game

Carroll - held Hall well

P Johnson - absolutely no impact

C. Johnson - showed rare urgency

Rivers - great defensive display

Bate - poor handling skills

Yze - fancy overrated leader

Moloney - another determined performance

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact

Johnstone - lacking when needed

Davey - made impact again

Pickett - unfit and uninterested

Dunn - not enough oppurtunity

Bell - hard at it

Miller - better up forward

Godfrey - showed great endeavour

Bruce - won ball plenty

White - 4 quarter performance

Sylvia - couldnt be seen

Jamar - big dumb dud

McDonald - where was he?

Brown - time has elapsed

Carroll - instills no confidence

P Johnson - devoid of urgency

C. Johnson - showed gradual improvement

Rivers - totally dominated opponent

Bate - poor handling skills

Yze - back to mediocrity

Moloney - a determined effort

Petterd - outstanding debut performance

Garland - made no impact

Johnstone - was totally subdued

Davey - made impact again

Pickett - almost totally disinterested

Dunn - a disappointing result

Bell - some crucial errors

Miller - better up forward

Godfrey - showed great endeavour

Bruce - prolific ball winner

White - 4 quarter performance

Sylvia - couldn't find rhythm

Jamar - made no impact

McDonald - few centre clearances

nice one Joeboy I have missed reading these

keep up the good work

mark

IMO... just a couple that came to mind after watching a tape of the replay...

Carroll - Better than Miller

P Johnson - Better than Jamar

Yze - Not too bad

Petterd - Boy can play !!!

Johnstone - So completely frustrating

Davey - Was very good

Miller - Showed up forward

Moloney - Back at best

Godfrey - Was not worst

Bruce - Skills are shabby

White - Need more from

Jamar - Should be dropped (but wont becuz of lack of height)

McDonald - Uncharacteristically without impact

Other than those... i agree with most of what has been said of the others.

White got beaten badly

PJ actually looked OK when he was put into the ruck, in the limited time he had contesting the ruck work he looked better than White and Jamar.

white actually played well i reckon