2 minutes ago, Kent said:

Has not played yet Old  Its a shame we as a club thought BB and T Mac were enough

Your Mr in Hindsight Kent both may not be injured in 2023 and Bruce JVR and them will star ! 

Just now, 58er said:

Your Mr in Hindsight Kent both may not be injured in 2023 and Bruce JVR and them will star ! 

Oh and Petty as well !! 

7 minutes ago, Kent said:

Has not played yet Old  Its a shame we as a club thought BB and T Mac were enough

Maybe they thought BBB, Tom Mac, Fritta, JVR, Max, Weid, maybe Petty and now Bruce was enough for one year. 

2 minutes ago, 58er said:

KENT 
Got BBB who helped us win flag in 2021!!!

JVR !!!

So people are happy with our forward stocks when clearly it was a weakness and was the area that most needed attention

TMac was almost traded a bbb was a medical casualty

1 minute ago, Kent said:

So people are happy with our forward stocks when clearly it was a weakness and was the area that most needed attention

TMac was almost traded a bbb was a medical casualty

Wait and see in 2023 !! 

2 minutes ago, 58er said:

Oh and Petty as well !! 

and the sun might shine!

My only point is we haven't addressed a glaring need appropriately in my view.

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

dogs can toss in $150k then. it's only for a year

but personally, i don't want him

But Tommo is on $500.000 also I believe. 

4 minutes ago, Kent said:

So people are happy with our forward stocks when clearly it was a weakness and was the area that most needed attention

TMac was almost traded a bbb was a medical casualty

They were trying through the LJ trade to get Cadman. That hasn't worked.

We are loading up reasonable picks in next year's draft, with more cap space as well. That will allow opportunities.

You haven't answered, who would you have got, or should we have been able to get.

Easy to criticize, but what are your suggestions?

We could say they are idiots for not getting McKay, Cameron and Naughton. You can only get who is available at that time.

 

3 minutes ago, Kent said:

and the sun might shine!

My only point is we haven't addressed a glaring need appropriately in my view.

Just wait and see It's the forward line as a whole that matters  2021 proved that. 

Melb has rarely had a star forward ( ie leading goal kicker) but has numerous players on the firward line that kick goals and play team footy. 

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

They were trying through the LJ trade to get Cadman. That hasn't worked.

We are loading up reasonable picks in next year's draft, with more cap space as well. That will allow opportunities.

You haven't answered, who would you have got, or should we have been able to get.

Easy to criticize, but what are your suggestions?

We could say they are idiots for not getting McKay, Cameron and Naughton. You can only get who is available at that time.

 

It's partly the way we played in 2022 and fitness of BBB and Tmac. Also. 

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’ve seen a lot of we lost Mitch Brown but he played 4 games in the last 2 years, all one off cameos. And JVR is now ready as the 3rd key forward behind Ben and Tom.

Weid is 3rd ruck as well as 4th key forward so in theory could be stuck trying to be 2 places at once but the hope would be one of Gawn/Grundy are available for most of the year.

Melk’s also staying on as emergency 5th key forward.

That’s all without Petty forward or something more out of the box like Howes as a hit up tall.

My point is I don’t think we actually need more depth for depths sake unless we think McDonald and Brown are in serious strife and/or we think Bruce is quick fix fitness wise and an upgrade. Maybe he is?!

Weideman would be traded if Bruce came in l think. Melk isnt going to make our forward line function as he is too small for the long bombs. Coaches want the old model with resting ruck, BB and someone that can compete for the long bombs to support BB coming in from the side ie Tmac, Bruce, JVR ....  if grundy and gawn are injured then play Joel Smith / Harmes in the ruck they will compete better than Weid anyhow

Edited October 8, 20223 yr by Demons1858

46 minutes ago, Kent said:

He isn't anywhere near the hand

My main point isn't about Bruce its about the club  ending up with poor options hoping BB and Tmac recover

We have had a need for a KPF for 3 years and have done nothing about developing trading or drafting one

We have BBB and JVR 

7 minutes ago, 58er said:

We have BBB and JVR 

Yes we do!

3 hours ago, Billy said:

There’s plenty of downside, he’s coming off a serious knee reco, looked like an unfit park footballer when he came back, at his 4th club, 30 years old, has a man bun & the worst Tatts in the AFL

Imagine BBB & Bruce plonking along in straight lines in our already dysfunctional forward line

 

FWIW Tommo was not as flexible in 2022 after his injury in 2021. So he could be better like Josh Bruce the year after his fist year back also! 

I’d say they just want to make sure we don’t get caught short again while we are in this premiership window .

Last season when TMac went down it cost us dearly and BBB has always managed an ongoing injury and could go down anytime.

Personally id like us to go with a rejigged  forward line using JVR and Petty ( who I really feel have the goods) and either TMac or Brown, or a Josh Bruce as that next tall.

Edited October 8, 20223 yr by DeeZee

2 minutes ago, Kent said:

Yes we do!

Recruited in 2021 both!! And we are playing JVR to take over next year. 

Could it be a swap for Tomlinson to reduce pressure off the salary cap?

26 minutes ago, Kent said:

and the sun might shine!

My only point is we haven't addressed a glaring need appropriately in my view.

I get your point Kent, but I also think the club can only recruit players that are available.

I’d say our preference is to get in quality key position forwards, and Bruce may fill a hole for a few seasons. Then we will likely try and increase our draft hand for this year and bring in another longer term key position player.

11 hours ago, picket fence said:

A HUMUNGOUS NOOOOOOOO!🤮

Hmm. Maybe Josh Bruce is okay afterall. 

23 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Could it be a swap for Tomlinson to reduce pressure off the salary cap?

Read my posts above.

17 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I get your point Kent, but I also think the club can only recruit players that are available.

I’d say our preference is to get in quality key position forwards, and Bruce may fill a hole for a few seasons. Then we will likely try and increase our draft hand for this year and bring in another longer term key position player.

Yes agreed but we have trusted that T Mac and Wiederman were it for too long to be our talls. It hasnt worked and  replacements should have been sourced 

Tomlinson for Bruce seems like a no brainer.

Will it work for either or both clubs... who knows... but Dogs need a better defence and we need a better forward line

Only just got to this topic. Is our link to him legit?

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I’m guessing you haven’t read a game day or post match thread this year. Or Demonland or Facebook MFC forums in general.

BBB has been bagged all year up to this point 

Two thousand wrongs don’t make a right.