1 minute ago, binman said:

But none of tbe people who caught did so at one those supermarkets. At least not yeT

True, not yet and it may never be proven. 

This comment:  "I don't think this error has had any bearing on this outbreak" didn't allow for the possibility that they are connected or that the 2 week delay might be detrimental to preventing an outbreak.

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

True, not yet and it may never be proven. 

This comment:  "I don't think this error has had any bearing on this outbreak" didn't allow for the possibility that they are connected or that the 2 week delay might be detrimental to preventing an outbreak.

Fair enough. 

With all the things happening including a person now in hospital I am struggling to have concern about whether this game goes ahead or not. Can we get real its only a game of football.

 

Just now, old dee said:

With all the things happening including a person now in hospital I am struggling to have concern about whether this game goes ahead or not. Can we get real its only a game of football.

 

I get where you're coming from mate, and footy is definitely not high up on the list in terms of relative importance, but there was a lot of talk last year during the 'big' lockdown about how much it helped people having some footy to watch. Just the sense of normality, the comfort and the distraction. The mental health aspect of this lockdown is pretty huge IMO, even though it's a short one. If we can have footy on, in a COVID safe way, then I think it only benefits people.

 

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5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I get where you're coming from mate, and footy is definitely not high up on the list in terms of relative importance, but there was a lot of talk last year during the 'big' lockdown about how much it helped people having some footy to watch. Just the sense of normality, the comfort and the distraction. The mental health aspect of this lockdown is pretty huge IMO, even though it's a short one. If we can have footy on, in a COVID safe way, then I think it only benefits people.

 

Yes but it is only one match tomorrow, another of the weekends games can easily be put in its place. you would think from some on here that the game by our team is the be all and end all it is one game of football tomorrow.

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Just now, old dee said:

Yes but it is only one match tomorrow, another of the weekends games can easily be put in its place. you would think from some on here that  the be all and end all is one game of football tomorrow.

Yeah that's fair mate.

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I get where you're coming from mate, and footy is definitely not high up on the list in terms of relative importance, but there was a lot of talk last year during the 'big' lockdown about how much it helped people having some footy to watch. Just the sense of normality, the comfort and the distraction. The mental health aspect of this lockdown is pretty huge IMO, even though it's a short one. If we can have footy on, in a COVID safe way, then I think it only benefits people.

 

100%, footy helped me get through the lockdown last year for all the reason you listed.

Just now, FritschyBusiness said:

100%, footy helped me get through the lockdown last year for all the reason you listed.

Same, that 'Festival of Footy' period lifted the spirits big time.

Thought I'd just add my 2 cents worth.  Had a conversation with an ex-work colleague yesterday who'd just got off a video call to Brasil with one of their government departments.  They have to recruit an extra 6,000 workers, unfortunately my friend was a little slow on the uptake and it took a further question from her before she realised, this wasn't natural attrition, they'd died from COVID.

Also thought I'd add being vaccinated and being infectious aren't mutually exclusive that some seem to be assuming. 

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Just now, Lord Nev said:

Same, that 'Festival of Footy' period lifted the spirits big time.

Big time.  Just having the footy to chat with your mates about was really good

It's good that they endeavour to present entertainment as I believe running games with no crowds does not put anyone at risk.

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

The SA report just released - as I understand it - pointed to the lack of adequate ventilation, as well as delivering food to + and - cases at the same time. In that case, someone with the virus opened the door to get their food, and due to l

In this case there is an logistics/admin issue - delivering food to +/- at the same time - and a facilities issue re: no negative pressure to prevent contaminated air escaping to another room.

It would appear impossible to control for the human error aspect here particular when considering the infectiousness of this and its variants.

In the absence of being able to properly manage the human risk, the question to be asked is - what is a better approach to manage this continued risk.

I still think high density CBD quarantine where as we have seen things keep breaking down is the wrong model and dedicated FIFO staff at places like Howard Springs is a more appropriate solution.

Take your last point but of course it is not possible to disprove it until we try it. Current system keeps failing. Try something else.

I think there are lots of options.  The dedicated facility is one but unfortunately that is not an option in the short-term.

In the meantime it would help if they took +'ve people out of the quarantine hotels into a medi-hotel so that it doesn't spread thru the ventilation system of the quarantine hotel.  

And, fix the hotel ventilation systems.  Neither Vic nor NSW have had a hotel outbreak since they fixed them. 

WA didn't learn from the Vic and NSW hotel outbreaks and failed to upgrade the hotel ventilation systems.  The WA government had been warned by its own investigators there were problems with the ventilation system of the hotel that had their recent outbreak.  While not yet stated it seems SA didn't learn it either so the Wollert man caught it there.  And how good is SA's covid testing that someone with it is allowed to leave the hotel.  Complacency by WA and SA, perhaps?

Until there are better facilities, all states need to learn from each other and implement changes that will improve what we have in hotels. 

Edited May 27, 20213 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Why not just postpone this weekend games push each week back and do away with the bye before the finals. Keep the bye rounds for now in case you have to postpone a second week. 

5 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

Why not just postpone this weekend games push each week back and do away with the bye before the finals. Keep the bye rounds for now in case you have to postpone a second week. 

I would be very surprised if they postponed the round. A game or two perhaps but there will be games played and broadcast. You can bet the house on that one.

54 minutes ago, old dee said:

Yes but it is only one match tomorrow, another of the weekends games can easily be put in its place. you would think from some on here that the game by our team is the be all and end all it is one game of football tomorrow.

I hate to bring to your attention that you are posting on an AFL supporters forum as that may upset you.

Get a grip old, it's what people come here to talk about.

 

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

I hate to bring to your attention that you are posting on an AFL supporters forum as that may upset you.

Get a grip old, it's what people come here to talk about.

That is exactly what I am asking people to do “ get a grip” A little bit less of self interest would not go astray on any web site.

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

That is exactly what I am asking people to do “ get a grip” A little bit less of self interest would not go astray on any web site.

What you are asking for is pointless.

 

People come here to talk about footy, and whine about games getting cancelled. That does not affect your chances of catching Covid 1 iota.

 

Relax, nobody is hoping you get sick.

 

I just made an appointment for my first Astra Zeneca shot.

Do you feel safer now? 

;)

Edited May 27, 20213 yr by faultydet

2 minutes ago, faultydet said:

What you are asking for is pointless.

 

People come here to talk about footy, and whine about games getting cancelled. That does not affect your chances of catching Covid 1 iota.

 

Relax, nobody is hoping you get sick.

Never thought they were.

Just now, old dee said:

Never thought they were.

Fair enough.

It's a topic bound to raise peoples blood pressure. Hope you are well there o.d

19 minutes ago, old dee said:

I would be very surprised if they postponed the round. A game or two perhaps but there will be games played and broadcast. You can bet the house on that one.

Yep, coz it’s all about the ? 

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Fair enough.

It's a topic bound to raise peoples blood pressure. Hope you are well there o.d

All fine, go Dees ( whenever we play ).

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yep, coz it’s all about the ? 

Yes and as long as no one is being put at risk then so be it I guess. 

 

Should the game proceed tomorrow night, it may well be the highest rating game on Channel 7 for the year. While a  Bulldogs v Melbourne game in most years wouldn't match ratings for the more traditionally high-rating clubs, the fact that its 1st v 2nd combined with everyone in Melbourne being stuck at home should boost the ratings beyond what otherwise would have been anticipated. Channel 7 should be very happy.

Edited May 27, 20213 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia