AFLW: Rd 05 vs Collingwood

[Lucifers Hero 37,407]

It will be a miracle if we make finals now.

Top 4 teams (not order) are set.  

Not only did we lose the game we lost about 30 percentage points - critical in a cut throat, short season.

Bulldogs and North have either a game or % better than us so they are the most likely for 5th and 6th.   

The really disappointing thing is that while players have changed the way we play has not.  That is on the coach!

[Docs Demons 1,676]

Poor coaching or not. Does it occur to anyone that maybe, just maybe our girls are not good enough or are they and it is solely the coach ???. Me thinks a bit of both. Like the men's we fall away on talent big time.

[DubDee 21,591]

8 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Poor coaching or not. Does it occur to anyone that maybe, just maybe our girls are not good enough or are they and it is solely the coach ???. Me thinks a bit of both. Like the men's we fall away on talent big time.

Certainly agree. We don’t have any performing forwards aside from Hore. Not much depth in the midfield and lack skill across the squad

[Brownie 5,481]

29 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Daisy has been terrible and was last week too. Playing her in defence is wrong too. Midfield or nowhere.

Yep agree. Might have been good to bring her into the midfield and roll Paxman closer to goal.

Might have been worth throwing Cunningham into the ruck and taking Pearce forward too.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

Apart from that 3rd quarter there was nothing to crow about. Really disappointing got a lot of hard work to do can't see us winning the premiership not good enough.

[Lucifers Hero 37,407]

I would suggest that list management decisions, trades, recruits are very much influenced by the coach in the AFLW.

So if we don't have the right or good players then in a large part it comes back to him.

[BDA 20,811]

The crazy notion I had that this team was capable of winning the flag crashed head first into reality today. What a train wreck performance that was. Really clueless. I can’t think of a single positive.

The senior players were poor, even paxy was off, but the game plan is a bust I’m afraid. The coach has to go back to the drawing board pronto if we’re any hope of salvaging the season. Cut out this ridiculous handballing, be more direct and bring some pressure. Talk about bruise free. Throw the pieces around as well. I think its time for Zanker to go FF no point waiting any longer. Best to leave Daisy where she is though. Her legs have gone so not sure any point sending her out the field. She read the play today ok but just butchered her kicks.

Our confidence is on the floor. Luckily we have the saints next week. They were terrible today so we have a chance to get back to winning ways. We have no margin for error left and realistically now an outside chance of playing finals.

[kev martin 9,327]

If I was coaching,  it would be kicking drills only at all the scheduled trainings and getting them to pair up for kick to kick on their afternoons off.

It is two weeks in a row that the basic couldn't be completed.

Repeat and repeat everyday, is one way to improve their skills

 

[skills32 229]

5 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

The wheels have fallen off the last fortnight sadly. Collingwood are on another level today.

No they haven't, they are the same wheels. All the other clubs have improved and we have been treading water.

We  were the first to have a women's team and should be the team to beat. Probably won't make the finals.
Why? What is the one constant re MFCW that has been with the team since the start of AFLW?

Clue; read the bio's of our coaching staff.

[58er 5,689]

29 minutes ago, skills32 said:

No they haven't, they are the same wheels. All the other clubs have improved and we have been treading water.

We  were the first to have a women's team and should be the team to beat. Probably won't make the finals.
Why? What is the one constant re MFCW that has been with the team since the start of AFLW?

Clue; read the bio's of our coaching staff.

Well what is wrong it's been the same Senior coach for 5 years!!! 

[Demon Dynasty 16,147]

3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

The crazy notion I had that this team was capable of winning the flag crashed head first into reality today. What a train wreck performance that was. Really clueless. I can’t think of a single positive.

The senior players were poor, even paxy was off, but the game plan is a bust I’m afraid. The coach has to go back to the drawing board pronto if we’re any hope of salvaging the season. Cut out this ridiculous handballing, be more direct and bring some pressure. Talk about bruise free. Throw the pieces around as well. I think its time for Zanker to go FF no point waiting any longer. Best to leave Daisy where she is though. Her legs have gone so not sure any point sending her out the field. She read the play today ok but just butchered her kicks.

Our confidence is on the floor. Luckily we have the saints next week. They were terrible today so we have a chance to get back to winning ways. We have no margin for error left and realistically now an outside chance of playing finals.

Very poorly coached in general imv.

Poor decision making,  poor skills.

Team took way too long to assert pressure that was needed to shut down the Pies  earlier.   That's mostly the coaches call, although there was also some really dumb individual decision making and poor execution/skills along the way that contributed.  While i appreciate Daisy was a very good talent it would appear as if the game has gone past her already.  She looks pressured most of the time with ball in hand and coughs it up way too often of late.

The Pies attack / decision making / execution & switching in the first half was at another level.  Work rate at another level as well, while the Demons were slow out of the blocks.  Who does that remind me of?

Field kicking was pretty ordinary as were some of the shots at goal.  Panic stations and a shambles in the 50.  Poorly organised and too crowded.  Again, resemblances of the AFL flaws at many levels.

[skills32 229]

5 hours ago, 58er said:

Well what is wrong it's been the same Senior coach for 5 years!!! 

That is what  I said.

Plus look at the bio of the forward coach  and that will explain  2.12 and1.8

[poita 3,723]

A truly woeful performance by a team that is completely bereft of skills and confidence. If we get a favourable draw from here, and other results go our way, we could slip into sixth spot, but what would be the point? We are miles off the top four sides and would get flogged in the finals.

I said last week that we had too many players lacking confidence in their skills and seemingly unwilling to win possession. This week I thought that our senior players had lost confidence in their teammates, and were second guessing themselves, which allowed Collingwood to put us under huge pressure when in possession.

Stinear simply has to go. I'm sure he is a nice bloke, but he is a terrible match day coach. I don't recall a single move in his time at the club that has changed the course of a game. Collingwood are sitting clear top of the table 18 months after changing coaches, and I don't believe their list is significantly better than ours. They do have a game plan that suits their list though.

My plan for the next four weeks:

1. Our forward line is top heavy and slow, our backline is undersized. Zanker and Scott move into defence; Lampard and Heath into the forward line. Zanker has been at all sea this year, but she has four weeks running in straight lines at CHB to regain confidence. Scott always should have been in defence this year with her attack on the ball and our other forward options. We need a couple of speedy types in the forward line to provide defensive pressure, and their disposal issues will be less costly. Cunningham is a deadweight whose only role should be to contest high balls in the goalsquare - I think she's finished. Give Hore & Parry the run of the forward 50, with Heath and Lampard at their feet. Hopefully Downie is ready to return to strengthen the defense.

2. No switching the play inside defensive 50. Most of our players are poor kicks, lacking accuracy and penetration. I lost count of the times we turned the ball over in that part of the ground. I'm happy kicking down the line to contests and then switching in the middle of the ground.

3. No handballs to the player running past the mark. Most of our players can't handball, and certainly don't have the distance to clear the player manning the mark. Part of the issue is also players like Paxman and Mithen demanding the ball when under pressure. In general this play on at all costs game plan only works when you have quick, skillful players, and we have neither.

4. Bannan and McNamara are being wasted at the moment, and Bannan in particular looks low on confidence. These players are our future and need to be played regardless for the next four weeks. Put both permanently on the wing, with Bannan having the licence to push forward and trying to create mismatches. If there are any other promising kids on the list, give them a run.

5. Daisy Pearce has clearly been a great player, but she reminds me of Jordan Lewis at the moment, ie she is playing with a healthy degree of self preservation in mind. We also haven't been able to get her match ups right such that she can zone off and direct traffic. She needs to be playing across half back, and not get dragged back to the goal square.