32 minutes ago, old dee said:

Thanks for that Gil. Seriously there is a difference between giving up some things and being their slave. If they continue to ignore fans who prefer going to games the base will quickly erode. Why buy a membership if it gets harder and harder to go to games.

The AFL sold its soul a long time ago OD. Way before Gil came along. The fans are rusted on and they know it. The best type of customer.

1 minute ago, Better days ahead said:

The AFL sold its soul a long time ago OD. Way before Gil came along. The fans are rusted on and they know it. The best type of customer.

I am not Bda. This year I did not get to go to a single game.  I watched the Dees  matches on FTA and little else. and I did not ask for my membership back. However this year I thought about it before renewing. If they continue to treat people who attend matches with contempt then the Dees better have a good 2021 or by this time next year I could easily slip to attending Amos matches live  and AFL will be an occasional tv watch . The sad part is the AFL probably don’t care what I do, I am expendable   

Feels like McLachlan, Hocking and the rest are slowly destroying the game on purpose.

6 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Feels like McLachlan, Hocking and the rest are slowly destroying the game on purpose.

No just incompetent !

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Because they are completly control by the broadcasters. I think that Gil is now Broadcast media CEO. It is getting to the stage that going to a game is not important to the  AFL. Why bother with a membership just sign up to Kayo and get all the other sports as a bonus. I am sure he would be happy with that. Oh and get a hair cut Gil you look ridiculous !

yeah, but.....the nrl are just as dependent on tv (ch9 in this case) and they have lower crowds at games

memberships or membership options definitely at risk

spot on about the daggy beard and hippy haircut.....surely he can't be lacking the coin

NRL played 4 less games this year, but had the benefit of starting earlier and resumed earlier.

52 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

yeah, but.....the nrl are just as dependent on tv (ch9 in this case) and they have lower crowds at games

memberships or membership options definitely at risk

spot on about the daggy beard and hippy haircut.....surely he can't be lacking the coin

I have little care for NRL DC. They have always had low attendance numbers unlike AFL. 

20 minutes ago, old dee said:

I have little care for NRL DC. They have always had low attendance numbers unlike AFL. 

Unlike the AFL they got their rule change right. The "extra 6" rule is great.

Their vault review of plays is terrible and is a lesson in how not to do it. Refs rarely call ties these days without a referral.

22 hours ago, old dee said:

Thanks for that Gil. Seriously there is a difference between giving up some things and being their slave. If they continue to ignore fans who prefer going to games the base will quickly erode. Why buy a membership if it gets harder and harder to go to games.

I've always believed buying a membership is not just for attending games. But, for many that's what it's all about and I agree if it becomes too hard to attend, people will transfer their habit to a screen. 

I'm dead against football on Monday to Thursday nights, other than special occasions. I would, however, favour Sunday night football as a regular thing.

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I've always believed buying a membership is not just for attending games. But, for many that's what it's all about and I agree if it becomes too hard to attend, people will transfer their habit to a screen. 

I'm dead against football on Monday to Thursday nights, other than special occasions. I would, however, favour Sunday night football as a regular thing.

I have for a lot of years considered a membership as a charitable donation LDC, as you say getting in 0n a match day is a bonus. However we are in the minority. A large group of members would not buy a membership if it gets to hard for them to go to games. Why would anyone make plans  early to go to a game under the system for 2021 and you would definately not book an interstate trip. While i have been a member since 1972 ( with four lost years ) I am rapidly reaching the age that if it is too hard I wont go, then comes the question why am i bothering with a member ship? I enjoy going and watching a game live if going to watch the MFC gets too hard I would prefer to watch the seconds ( that too gets increasingly difficult in 2021 ) or the Amos. In 2019 I went to as many Casey games as the senior games. While I am a MFC nut case I really dont care about the rest of the AFL. If there was no MFC I would have no interest in Aussie rules at the senior level it just aint that good to watch anymore.

Edited November 22, 20205 yr by old dee

Gil got an unprecedented amount of credit for getting a season competed but at the end of the day we were the only code in the world that shortened all of their games and minimised it’s product.

 

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Gil got an unprecedented amount of credit for getting a season competed but at the end of the day we were the only code in the world that shortened all of their games and minimised it’s product.

 

I think 17 games was the right call. I’m no great fan of Gil but other competitions didn’t have to deal with border closures in country to the same degree the AFL had to. It would have been a big ask of the 10 Vic teams to prolong the hub by another 3-4 weeks to fit in more games. Hub life is far from ideal for families never mind wanting to get back home to see extended family, parents, brothers, sisters etc.

1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

I think 17 games was the right call. I’m no great fan of Gil but other competitions didn’t have to deal with border closures in country to the same degree the AFL had to. It would have been a big ask of the 10 Vic teams to prolong the hub by another 3-4 weeks to fit in more games. Hub life is far from ideal for families never mind wanting to get back home to see extended family, parents, brothers, sisters etc.

We also suffered with our heartland being the state to have the biggest outbreak and so the toughest measures. It meant having a hub in Melbourne was out of the question. Had the hub been in Victoria we would’ve had minimum 3 stadiums (potentially more at the likes of Ballarat, Whitten oval, Princess Park, and dare I say it even Casey). I tip my cap to the NRL for doing what they did, but logistics were harder for the AFL, particularly with having to deal with WA. 

2 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

I think 17 games was the right call. I’m no great fan of Gil but other competitions didn’t have to deal with border closures in country to the same degree the AFL had to. It would have been a big ask of the 10 Vic teams to prolong the hub by another 3-4 weeks to fit in more games. Hub life is far from ideal for families never mind wanting to get back home to see extended family, parents, brothers, sisters etc.

I agreed with the shortened season but I didn’t agree with the shortened games/quarters.

The shortened games cheapened the product IMO.

I didn't mind the footy frenzy ... during the school holidays (June/July?) works in terms of a captive audience and lets face it,  there's not a lot of quality programming on TV anyway. 

As much as I now view the sport as a defence based sport (a bit of a grind) it's still miles better than the junk we get served up as an alternative (especially on the commercial networks)