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Just now, dieter said:

Me thinks Dante lives in a place called cloud cuckoo. There are many like-minded individuals in this asylum: Bolt, Devine, Sheridan, Murdoch, Credlin, the opposition leader in Victoria, Dutton, Morrison, and more than 70 million members of the US species.

Pretty harsh comparing our Prime Minister, who lead a pretty decent first lockdown and put together substantial financial measures in place to ensure lockdown was achievable for many businesses (admittedly not all, and admittedly the second lockdown in Victoria deserved more support), to a man who told me if I just drunk bleach and told myself the virus will 'go away' long enough, that it will. 

Plenty of politicians and mainstream media have a lot to answer for, but none come close to polishing the shoes of Trump when it comes to inaptitude, lies, corruption and utter stupidity. 

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21 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Pretty harsh comparing our Prime Minister, who lead a pretty decent first lockdown and put together substantial financial measures in place to ensure lockdown was achievable for many businesses (admittedly not all, and admittedly the second lockdown in Victoria deserved more support), to a man who told me if I just drunk bleach and told myself the virus will 'go away' long enough, that it will. 

Plenty of politicians and mainstream media have a lot to answer for, but none come close to polishing the shoes of Trump when it comes to inaptitude, lies, corruption and utter stupidity. 

Yes, this ain't comparing apples with apples, the Strumpet is out there in Alpha Centauri and incomparable. Please recall, Scomo's first 'lockdown' included putting it off till his Hillsong crowd could gather, the same people who then spread the virus in SA, the same PM who slipped through the slippery slope of responsibility for the Ruby Princess fiasco by doing what he does best, defending the indefensible - I.E. that Dutton''s crowd WERE AND ARE  responsible for so-called border security, and therefore caused most of the spread throughout Australia etc etc. I could go on, about the water scandals Angus Taylor is involved in, the sporty rorty affair, the spending of 30 million tax payer dollars in donations to a Liberal supporter who sold him a piece of land worth at the most 3 million, down to his Aged Care Minister's amnesia about Ministerial Responsibility. But, there you go, this is the age we live in, the age of Scomo bulls''t and double talk. We won't mention his tax donations  to his favourite church. You know, Jaded, we could be here all night enumerating this man's total ineptitude and irresponsibility, even before we begin to mention his lies. But there you go,: you seem to think his rorts and lies are okay. This, I guess, is the great unknown of where 'Democracy' can lead us: I think, inevitably, into a labyrinth of self deceit and total, absolute nonsense. Scomo's handling of the bush fires, his total denial about the sports rorts, his total refutation of climate change will come back to bite us and our future generations for a very long time.

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On 11/8/2020 at 9:09 PM, Dante said:

Who ran it if not Obama? Joe was missing in action, particularly after bedtime, I'd say that Obama was more visible that Joe ever was. I doubt that the Democrats would trust Joe with a sustained campaign.

Personally I don't care who won, other than it's obvious that Joe has the early stages of dementia and will struggle to remain coherent for much longer, sad to see a politician that's drifting off to the land of sundowners. Also his dealings with his son and the acceptance of underhand payments was conveniently swept under the rug by the media and social media.

Harris will be in power before the first term ends and will lose office and never be elected at the end of it. I don't think she is the most popular Democrat in the ranks. 

I'm just glad its all over, I am sick of the whole debacle.

Trump, the Murdoch media (specifically the New York Post) and a whole lot of right-leaning social media, didn't "sweep it under the rug". They went all out for Hunter Biden. But just like the "rigged and fraudulent election", it's just another lie and conspiracy theory believed only by Trump and his supporters. It had nowhere to go. There's not one scintilla of evidence that any of it was true, not even the mythical laptop and the blind repairer. That's why the rest of the media ignored it. Hunter is a good man like his father and late brother, and the pathetic vendetta against him was deplorable. You are just repeating the lies.

Everyone has underestimated Biden so far. I love the way Trump scored an own goal by saying "imagine losing to him". And everyone has underestimated Harris. She is very popular ... just look at the reception she got after the result. As usual, as a woman, she'll be held to a much higher standard than anyone else. She'll most likely be pilloried by the Republicans and Murdoch for things they'd ignore with a man.

Biden has one big thing going for him ... the pandemic. He just has to reduce the numbers reasonably significantly, and then next year the Pfizer vaccine (at least) will come through. By his second or third year the pandemic will be almost gone. Trump can claim all he likes about it "disappearing", but it will be in Biden's and Harris' term that it does.

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On 11/10/2020 at 12:29 PM, Grapeviney said:

 

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Most amusing thing about that press conference - Rudy's star witness turned out to have done time (did I hear three years?) for sex crimes including exposing himself to teenage girls. Fine feller. No wonder Rudy felt they had a lot in common).

America is just insane right now. Getting up to 250,000 dead and all the mad king is doing is sitting in his castle watching Fox and moaning on Twitter. Not a scintilla of leadership - not a word of support or consolation. The only thing that's got him off his lard ars* is spending 5 minutes at a Remembrance Day service - and even then he and his little gang couldn't bring themselves to wear masks, thereby potentially turning it into another super-spreader.  

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2 hours ago, Jara said:

Most amusing thing about that press conference - Rudy's star witness turned out to have done time (did I hear three years?) for sex crimes including exposing himself to teenage girls. Fine feller. No wonder Rudy felt they had a lot in common).

America is just insane right now. Getting up to 250,000 dead and all the mad king is doing is sitting in his castle watching Fox and moaning on Twitter. Not a scintilla of leadership - not a word of support or consolation. The only thing that's got him off his lard ars* is spending 5 minutes at a Remembrance Day service - and even then he and his little gang couldn't bring themselves to wear masks, thereby potentially turning it into another super-spreader.  

A piece of [censored] has more integrity and decency than Trump, his disgusting off spring and his band of pathetic lackies 

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2 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Trump is going to win.    LOL @ anyone who thinks Biden got this many vote legitimately.

I will be back to gloat at a later date.

 

 

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If you carefully watch Biden he often pervs on young girls , kisses boys and often get family names wrong. The other with he is in bed with Bill Gates , the person who is going to make billions of Dollars from the new vaccines for covid 19. The Clintons are included in this charade. 

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8 hours ago, Jara said:

The only thing that's got him off his lard ars* is spending 5 minutes at a Remembrance Day service

And two games of golf.

1 hour ago, COOLX said:

Bill Gates , the person who is going to make billions of Dollars from the new vaccines for covid 19.

Gates is going to control the world when all those microchips go in. We'll all be his menial droids!

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4 hours ago, COOLX said:

If you carefully watch Biden he often pervs on young girls , kisses boys and often get family names wrong. The other with he is in bed with Bill Gates , the person who is going to make billions of Dollars from the new vaccines for covid 19. The Clintons are included in this charade. 

 

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22 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Trump is going to win.    LOL @ anyone who thinks Biden got this many vote legitimately.

I will be back to gloat at a later date.

 

 

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Picket - could I just ask - how old are you? (Don't want to pry - was just curious whether or not you're an adult)

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On 11/14/2020 at 10:49 PM, Jaded said:

I’m really worried that 71,000,000 people are stupid enough to vote for Trump and now 2 more idiots seem to have found their tribe. God help humanity. 

I'm more concerned the Democrats chose Biden as the answer.

They had plenty of capable candidates.

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7 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

I'm more concerned the Democrats chose Biden as the answer.

They had plenty of capable candidates.

Two things...

1. Biden was a safe choice to combat Trump as he's more centre than most Democrats

2. Harris will be as much the president as Biden will be, and she is an absolute gun. 

 

P.S. - The Trump legal team reminds me of a bad Soviet circus from the 1960s. 

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On 11/22/2020 at 4:05 PM, Pickett2Jackson said:

 This is what a hero looks like.  Thank you President Trump on behalf of all Demonlanders and those who value peace.

 

 

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Are you just blindly ignoring the 250,000 Covid deaths in his own country? Or does it not matter if people die on US soil from a disease he could control with lockdowns and mask use? 

By the way, if 9-11 happened under Trump, he would have done a hell of a lot worse than Bush ever did. 

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1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Two things...

1. Biden was a safe choice to combat Trump as he's more centre than most Democrats

2. Harris will be as much the president as Biden will be, and she is an absolute gun. 

 

P.S. - The Trump legal team reminds me of a bad Soviet circus from the 1960s. 

That's the problem the democrats felt Biden was the only candidate capable of beating Trump. If Harris is such a gun why not run with her?

I personally would have run with Amy Klobuchar.

Trump's legal team are hopeless. You tend to run into problems when you only keep people around you that agree with you. Daniel Andrews suffers from this syndrome as well.

There are obvious anomalies with the voting. Not enough to swing the result but they need to be investigated.

Hopefully Biden / Harris nationalise the voting rules. How can Nevada counters get a day off during the count when it only happens every 4 years? Not using that as an example of an anomaly, just how ridiculous the state based rules can be.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Wrecker45 said:

There are obvious anomalies with the voting. Not enough to swing the result but they need to be investigated.

Are there though? There's not a shred of supporting evidence from any objective source that I've come across. The "obvious anomalies" claims have only come from alt-right 'news' sources, Trump's lawyers and twitter. Of course these claims will be investigated, but there's not a legal basis for any of it, nor any actual evidence other than wild conspiracy theories. If you have any links (other than Breitbart, Sky News, etc), I'd be interested to see them.

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28 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Are there though? There's not a shred of supporting evidence from any objective source that I've come across. The "obvious anomalies" claims have only come from alt-right 'news' sources, Trump's lawyers and twitter. Of course these claims will be investigated, but there's not a legal basis for any of it, nor any actual evidence other than wild conspiracy theories. If you have any links (other than Breitbart, Sky News, etc), I'd be interested to see them.

 

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