Coronavirus: AFL & MFC

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Pates 9,625]

I suspect the coronavirus is going to give the world all sorts of opportunities to almost reboot things the way they see fit. Rather than the old soft changeover period companies (and sports) could well take the chance to enforce sudden change on the back or reviews due to the virus.

I can see the AFL putting in significant rule changes such as less players out of the field, shorter quarters being a permanent change, less players on the main list, perhaps midweek fixtures similar to soccer, and those are the first ones off the top of my head.

The world we come back to in footy alone could be quite different, let alone what governments will change.

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,351]

The Age is reporting that the Victorian Health Chief has said no mass spectator sports until 2021

[Jaded No More 67,624]

14 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Great, I'm so looking forward to a day off from sitting inside my house 

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Moonshadow 17,471]

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Could very well continue into 2021 season, according to some of the medical advisors  

[Demonland 70,249]

7 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Could very well continue into 2021 season, according to some of the medical advisors  

I reckon that will be the case for all crowded events. Social Distancing will be with us for at least 18 months. 

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Cards13 9,117]

15 hours ago, Demonland said:

I reckon that will be the case for all crowded events. Social Distancing will be with us for at least 18 months. 

Ie until there is a vaccine. 

[drysdale demon 4,684]

15 hours ago, Demonland said:

I reckon that will be the case for all crowded events. Social Distancing will be with us for at least 18 months. 

Judging by the number of people on the tan yesterday you would think there were no social distancing rules in place.

[Kent 2,859]

25 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Judging by the number of people on the tan yesterday you would think there were no social distancing rules in place.

I went around twice  yesterday DD  early morning and later and agrre with your comments.

Were many groups of people closer than 1.5 metres.

Also people not keeping to one side . Wandering like sheep very dificult to physically seperate.

[Moonshadow 17,471]

34 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Ie until there is a vaccine. 

Which isn't a certainty to happen at all. There is still no vaccine for any coronavirus. But we can only hope there is one sooner rather than later

[drysdale demon 4,684]

25 minutes ago, Kent said:

I went around twice  yesterday DD  early morning and later and agrre with your comments.

Were many groups of people closer than 1.5 metres.

Also people not keeping to one side . Wandering like sheep very dificult to physically seperate.

At times it is a bit like that down this way, all of a sudden people have discovered that their legs can be used for walking and  it appears they all go at the same time.

[Moonshadow 17,471]

Maybe there are a lot of people out of work or reduced hours that want to be active to keep their spirits up while the weather is still warm(ish). 

Whilst the 1.5m is super important, any exercise, even a walk, is great for mental an physical health, especially atm.

 

[drysdale demon 4,684]

42 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Maybe there are a lot of people out of work or reduced hours that want to be active to keep their spirits up while the weather is still warm(ish). 

Whilst the 1.5m is super important, any exercise, even a walk, is great for mental an physical health, especially atm.

 

I'm not suggesting people not do any exercise, it just makes a farce of the 1.5m rule when you have 4 or 5 walking abreast, more people a couple of foot directly behind them and more people approaching them.

[Moonshadow 17,471]

20 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I'm not suggesting people not do any exercise, it just makes a farce of the 1.5m rule when you have 4 or 5 walking abreast, more people a couple of foot directly behind them and more people approaching them.

Unfortunately, common sense is not all that common.

Maybe you could request they have coffee or a beer with you to thrash it out

Edited April 20, 2020 by Moonshadow

[Diamond_Jim 12,351]

There seems to be a concerted move to end the reserves/VFL comp as a cost saving measure. This would come with a reduction in the list size to the mid thirties. Assuming an injury level of 2-3 players that leaves around 10 players who don't make the senor team. Perhaps 12-14  if you reduce the on-field team to 16 with 3 or 4 on the bench

Interested in peoples thoughts as to whether you would just increase the training loads of these players or would you put them in different clubs,the one club or even loan a group of five (subject to recall)to one or more clubs.Traditionally we have always assumed that a player needs match fitness but I wonder whether this is now a thing of the past.

[Demonland 70,249]

 

[Macca 16,603]

7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

There seems to be a concerted move to end the reserves/VFL comp as a cost saving measure. This would come with a reduction in the list size to the mid thirties. Assuming an injury level of 2-3 players that leaves around 10 players who don't make the senor team. Perhaps 12-14  if you reduce the on-field team to 16 with 3 or 4 on the bench

Interested in peoples thoughts as to whether you would just increase the training loads of these players or would you put them in different clubs,the one club or even loan a group of five (subject to recall)to one or more clubs.Traditionally we have always assumed that a player needs match fitness but I wonder whether this is now a thing of the past.

They could get rid of the reserves but they'd bring it back down the track.  Back 20+ years ago there was a push for the Victorian teams to align themselves with a VFA team but as time went on the AFL teams found they were in need of their own reserves team where they got to call the shots.

The Sheffield Shield is subsidised to the tune of over $10Million each season.  But the Shield is necessary.  As is reserves footy.

What happens to the players who don't play in the seniors?  Are they billeted out all over the place?  They'd just be creating another problem if the reserves were ditched.  A short-sighted move.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

16 minutes ago, Macca said:

They could get rid of the reserves but they'd bring it back down the track.  Back 20+ years ago there was a push for the Victorian teams to align themselves with a VFA team but as time went on the AFL teams found they were in need of their own reserves team where they got to call the shots.

The Sheffield Shield is subsidised to the tune of over $10Million each season.  But the Shield is necessary.  As is reserves footy.

What happens to the players who don't play in the seniors?  Are they billeted out all over the place?  They'd just be creating another problem if the reserves were ditched.  A short-sighted move.

It may be a financial necessity, though.

Pre-Covid-19 I can understand the concept of players not in the seniors and not injured playing a game each weekend to maintain match fitness and get more practice. However, we may have to get used to the idea that non-playing members will be just that in any given week. They'll train with the team during the week, but won't have a game to play on the weekend. Do I like the idea? No. But it might be the only financially viable way to go.

Edited April 20, 2020 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[Diamond_Jim 12,351]

38 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It may be a financial necessity, though.

Pre-Covid-19 I can understand the concept of players not in the seniors and not injured playing a game each weekend to maintain match fitness and get more practice. However, we may have to get used to the idea that non-playing members will be just that in any given week. They'll train with the team during the week, but won't have a game to play on the weekend. Do I like the idea? No. But it might be the only financially viable way to go.

As I understand it most sports have an active senior list (bigger than the number required on game day) and then the rest go to another comp. In soccer they will lend out say the fourth goal keeper etc. Baseball... the teams have another team in a lesser league. However there are players on the active list that are effectively getting no game time but they seem to manage.

I suppose what I am saying is that match fitness is retained in many other sports without actual matches... why is AFL different

[Macca 16,603]

44 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It may be a financial necessity, though.

Not if you pay the last 25 players on a list a lot less money and slice a good portion at the top end.

As it stands,  the elite and those just below the elite would want to keep their salary's intact.  It's why the talk is to cut the lists.

That's how I see it and ultimately,  it would be a short sighted move to cut the lists.  And because of the 25%* injury rate the lists probably need to be increased (with greatly reduced salaries - especially at the top end)

During these times many will talk through their hip pocket.  Which is fair enough but that hip pocket nerve is often difficult to see with all the bs that flies around.

 

* that percentage can be as low as 20% but sometimes up to 30% (injury rate)