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38 minutes ago, rjay said:

China has been hammered and looks like it's set for a 2nd wave unfortunately.

Russia has also been hammered.

North Korea have been seeking assistance through back channels apparently and would never admit to anything so who would know really.

I wouldn't use these examples to back your argument...

'ht',  what is it you think I'm debating, 'For'.?

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35 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

That's why I edited to say,  plus Nth Korea.  They do have a 1st world military Uncle.

 

I'm on the lookout for the signs of major conflict starting, at these times of troubles.

No they don’t. They have a BIG military and because of 60 plus years of preparing for war they have enough artillery hidden in tunnels so they could flatten Seoul in about an hour, but that is about it other than suicide pact nukes. I doubt they could control their airspace against South Korea, and forget what would happen if one of the big 3 got involved. The exist because it suits China to have them there, and since they got nukes the US has backed off because they suspect that the leadership is bat**** crazy enough to us them if pushed.

As for China and her numbers (as dodgy as all hell), I suspect they have lost control over it and have decided that it’s better to lose a couple of million people than trash the economy. It’s not like it would be the first time that the CCP has made that call.

 

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3 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

No they don’t. They have a BIG military and because of 60 plus years of preparing for war they have enough artillery hidden in tunnels so they could flatten Seoul in about an hour, but that is about it other than suicide pact nukes. I doubt they could control their airspace against South Korea, and forget what would happen if one of the big 3 got involved. The exist because it suits China to have them there, and since they got nukes the US has backed off because they suspect that the leadership is bat**** crazy enough to us them if pushed.

As for China and her numbers (as dodgy as all hell), I suspect they have lost control over it and have decided that it’s better to lose a couple of million people than trash the economy. It’s not like it would be the first time that the CCP has made that call.

 

Nth Korea closed their borders early on.  February.

I think Nth Korea is either the Kremmlin's,  or Xi Jinping's puppet.  I think Xi.   I think, they're working hand in hand, behind the scenes.

And with what's been going on since 2000, I don't trust either of them.

 

Just look at the Hong Kong protests, etc.  Taiwan. 

China tries to gather control of things via stealth.  The same around the Sth Pacific.

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2 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

 

China tries to gather control of things via stealth.  The same around the Sth Pacific.

Been happening since Adam was a boy...

The US has been playing these games for years...the Russians.

Previously the Brits...

...and what have the Romans ever done for us?

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57 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Nth Korea closed their borders early on.  February.

I think Nth Korea is either the Kremmlin's,  or Xi Jinping's puppet.  I think Xi.   I think, they're working hand in hand, behind the scenes.

And with what's been going on since 2000, I don't trust either of them.

 

Just look at the Hong Kong protests, etc.  Taiwan. 

China tries to gather control of things via stealth.  The same around the Sth Pacific.

For sure they do. They have had 5000 years of practice. But I never look for a conspiracy when it can be chalked up to ineptitude. But like hell China would bring the hermit kingdom into the fold. They aren’t friends. They are just a useful buffer. And China is well aware the NK is bat**** crazy, but as long as that crazy it aimed westward it’s bareable. If it turns east it will be squashed like a bug

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2 hours ago, rjay said:

Been happening since Adam was a boy...

The US has been playing these games for years...the Russians.

Previously the Brits...

...and what have the Romans ever done for us?

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I'm feel they China, have sinister means,  desires.

I sense they are not to be trusted.  They do not trust their peoples,  and do not allow the people freedom to choose their ways of life.

 

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10 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

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I'm feel they China, have sinister means,  desires.

I sense they are not to be trusted.  They do not trust their peoples,  and do not allow the people freedom to choose their ways of life.

 

Given the current situation with borders between our states, police action against people taking driving lessons or eating kebabs on benches,etc, State premiers thanking those adhering to direction but exhorting citizens to follow these rules and a PMwho just states "stop it just stop it" to acknowledge people not acting in accordance with his desires, we are heading close to a similar charge.

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50 minutes ago, dpositive said:

Given the current situation with borders between our states, police action against people taking driving lessons or eating kebabs on benches,etc, State premiers thanking those adhering to direction but exhorting citizens to follow these rules and a PMwho just states "stop it just stop it" to acknowledge people not acting in accordance with his desires, we are heading close to a similar charge.

oh c'mon......proportionality please

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8 hours ago, hardtack said:

Legend and demographics expert...

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Trump is so intelligent... he's a genius.   Don't you know.

He has billions of great ideas every hour. of every day.   Trouble is,  he has so many brilliant thought,  he has no time to think about Any of them,  before he speaks/tweets. 

Poor fella.  There just isn't enough hours in any day,  to suit El Presidente`_

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Footy,  Coronavirus,  and Cruise ships.

China and the  'Ruby Princees',  have a lot to answer for.   Those two  Coronavirus impacts on Australia,  nothing has had a bigger destructive influence on our lives and finances.

 

from miragenews.com.  September 18, 2019.

https://www.miragenews.com/ship-debuts-and-maiden-calls-make-2019-20-a-summer-to-remember-for-carnival-australia/

"  Carnival Australia President Sture Myrmell said the 2019-20 cruise season would feature an exciting range of ships as well as 50 inaugural port visits around the country for ships across the company’s cruise lines.

“This is going to be a summer cruise season to remember,,,,  " 

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IMO,  the Australian government should seize the  'Ruby Princess' ship,  as evidence, Re the police investigations,  & for collateral,  for any law suits here in Australia against the 'Carnival' company, which owns the ship.

I think there is going to be multi Law suits,  against this company.  So we don't want them seeking legal solace in some way,  restricting them from paying their future Legal debts.

 

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Good luck with that!  Considering that we are unlikely to open our borders before year's end, coupled with the fact that India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, England etc are likely to be in the same position, I fail to see how this could possibly go ahead unless it was moved to 2021, and even then it would be highly unlikely.  I think any major events such as this won't happen until there is either a "cure" or a vaccine available.

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6 hours ago, Cards13 said:

crowd involvement is great and at first glance I thought you could do this in the park around the MCG sans cars with byo chair but then you start to think logisitics..toilets , limiting the number of entrants etc and it all gets too hard.

How about a lucky thousand lottery so you could have one thousand at the MCG all sitting ten seats apart or similar

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Really, spitting and shining one side is still tampering with the ball, regardless of what the rules permit or the history of manipulated swing bowling. 

This is a good opportunity for the law makers of cricket to ban all forms of ball tampering. 

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Dutch football league cancelled, ladder leader Ajax won’t be declared as champions. This comes after Dutch Prime Minister announced a ban on large gatherings including sports will be extended until September 1st.

The other day I read the Germans set a possible date for resumption in late May yet neighbours Holland have gone screw this, it’s over. Trying to work out if everyone is on the same page here.

Copy and paste is no longer working for me on here for some reason, any help would be appreciated. The article came from 9 Wide World of Sports. 

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